Trump accuses China of hacking Clinton server, no evidence

Donald Trump initiated circus has tweeted claims from a right wing media source of ‘mixed’ factual reliability that China hacked Hillary Clinton’s server, and has urged the FBI to act or “their credibility will be gone forever!”, but the FBI have responded with this very brief statement:

“The FBI has not found any evidence the servers were compromised.”

Two contrasting headlines:

Fox News: Chinese company reportedly hacked Clinton’s server, got copy of every email in real-time

A Chinese state-owned company reportedly hacked former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s email server, then inserted code that forwarded them a copy of virtually every email she sent or received after that — a revelation President Trump is demanding be investigated.

The Daily Caller reported that the firm operating in the D.C. area wrote code that was then embedded in the server and generated a “courtesy copy” for almost all her emails — which was then forwarded to the Chinese company.

The code reportedly was discovered in 2015 by the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG), which then warned FBI officials of the intrusion.

A source briefed on the matter confirmed to Fox News the details of the Caller’s reporting, and said that the ICIG was so concerned by the revelation that officials drove over to the FBI to inform agents — including anti-Trump agent Peter Strzok — of the development after it was discovered via the emails’ metadata.

The source told Fox News the hack was from a Chinese company, describing it as a front for Chinese intelligence.

A second source briefed on the matter told Fox News that officials outside of the FBI indicated code on the Clinton server suggested a foreign source was receiving copies of emails in real time.

The hacking report caught the attention late Tuesday of President Trump, who warned that the FBI and DOJ should act or “their credibility will be forever gone.”

NPR had a different angle: Trump Says Without Evidence That China Hacked Clinton Email Server

President Trump tweeted early Wednesday that China was behind a hack of former presidential opponent Hillary Clinton’s emails, in an apparent reference to an article published by the conservative Daily Caller website.

China denied the allegation.

The article, by reporter Richard Pollack, cites two anonymous sources and says a Chinese-owned company based outside of Washington, D.C., “hacked Hillary Clinton’s private server throughout her term as secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails.”

U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Russia was behind a campaign to influence the 2016 election and was responsible for the hacking of emails of the Democratic National Committee as well as for Clinton’s campaign chairman, John Podesta.

The subject of the Daily Caller’s article is separate from that hack.

So the allegation seems to be that China hacked Clinton’s email server as well as Russia.

“The FBI spent thousands of hours investigating, and found no evidence of intrusion. That’s a fact,” the Daily Caller quoted Clinton spokesperson Nick Merrill as saying. “But in an age where facts are alternative and truth isn’t truth, it’s no surprise that an outlet like the Daily Caller would try to distract us from very real and very immediate threats to our democracy brought by the man occupying the White House.”

“This isn’t the first time we’ve heard similar kinds of allegations,” Hua Chunying, China’s foreign ministry spokesperson, told reporters in Beijing on Wednesday. “China is a staunch defender of cybersecurity. We firmly oppose and crack down on any forms of Internet attacks and the stealing of secrets,” she added, according to Reuters.

Trump said in April 2017 that it “could have been China, could have been a lot of different groups” behind the hack of Democratic emails that has been blamed on Russia.

Washington also reported on this initially, but followed up a few hours later: FBI pushes back on unfounded Trump claim that China hacked Hillary Clinton’s email

The FBI on Wednesday pushed back on an unfounded claim by President Trump that Hillary Clinton’s emails were hacked by China, saying it had found no evidence that the private servers she used while secretary of state had been compromised.

Trump provided no details about the alleged hacking, but his tweets came shortly after the online publication of a story by the Daily Caller asserting that a Chinese-owned company operating in the Washington area hacked Clinton’s private server while she was secretary of state and obtained nearly all her emails. The publication cited “two sources briefed on the matter.”

Fox News, which is frequently watched by the president, aired a segment on the report Wednesday night, with a guest calling it a bombshell if true.

Asked about the president’s assertions, the FBI provided a statement Wednesday afternoon that simply said: “The FBI has not found any evidence the servers were compromised.”

An FBI spokesman declined to comment on Trump’s call for the bureau to make a “next move.” A spokesman for the Justice Department also declined to comment.

In a July 2016 statement, Comey said the FBI “did not find direct evidence that Secretary Clinton’s personal e-mail domain, in its various configurations since 2009, was successfully hacked.” But, he added: “Given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved, we assess that we would be unlikely to see such direct evidence.”

A lengthy Justice Department inspector general report released in June criticized the latter part of Comey’s statement, saying that while forensics agents could not say with 100 percent confidence that Clinton’s servers had not been compromised, they were “fairly confident” that there wasn’t an intrusion.

Trump’s calls to investigate Clinton and other real and perceived political adversaries have grown louder as the special counsel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election continues.

Media Bias/Fact Check on Daily Caller:

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes.

Factual Reporting: MIXED

Trump has also tweeted over the last few hours:

New Poll – A majority of Americans think that John Brennan and James Comey should have their Security Clearances Revoked. Not surprised!

“The Obama people did something that’s never been done…They spied on a rival presidential campaign. Would it be OK if Trump did it next? I am losing faith that our system is on the level. I’m beginning to think it is rotten & corrupt. Scary stuff Obama did.” DOJ

“Hillary Clinton and the DNC paid for information from the Russian government to use against her government – there’s no doubt about that!”

Tucker Carlson is on Fox.

“Anonymous Sources are really starting to BURN the media.” The fact is that many anonymous sources don’t even exist. They are fiction made up by the Fake News reporters. Look at the lie that Fake CNN is now in. They got caught red handed! Enemy of the People!

When you see “anonymous source,” stop reading the story, it is fiction!

That’s quite ironic given that the Chinese hacking claims made by Daily Caller and Fox were based on anonymous sources.

It seems curious that Fox seems to be getting ‘briefed’ by similar or the same sources as Daily Caller.

Me on Donald Trump:

Factual tweeting: very mixed, very biased towards trump causes and conspiracies.



  1. Patzcuaro

     /  30th August 2018

    President Non Grata

    • MaureenW

       /  30th August 2018

      Hopefully they’ll engage a Special Counsel to investigate Clinton and her cohorts to get to the bottom of this. The American public deserve to know whether classified information held on Clinton’s unsecured server found its way into Chinese government hands.

      • Patzcuaro

         /  30th August 2018

        Maybe Trump should concentrate on his job and lef everyone else get on with their jobs.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  30th August 2018

          Maybe the Left should let him.

          • Gezza

             /  30th August 2018

            Maybe if he stopped tweeting like a madman everybody would.

          • Joe Bloggs

             /  30th August 2018

            so with the House, the Senate, and the Oval office all in republican hands Alan claims the Dems won’t let the unindicted co-conspirator in federal crimes do his job.

            That’s delusional bullshit.

        • MaureenW

           /  30th August 2018

          Those who were responsible for reporting and investigation of the various classified info breaches and leaks didn’t do their jobs though.

          • Griff.

             /  30th August 2018

            Another that refuses to except their was actually no crime of any note .
            In the sane faction of the western world its innocent until proven guilty.
            In the deluded one some inhabit its guilty even if proven Innocent.

          • Patzcuaro

             /  30th August 2018

            Or they investigated and came up with an outcome you didn’t want?

  2. David

     /  30th August 2018

    I guess we will never know given Clinton bleached her server and had an aide take a hammer to her Blackberry despite being asked by the congressional committee to not.
    I would love to see some evidence, any evidence of anything. At the moment we just have the intelligence community saying Russia in all probablity tried to hack and disturb the election, what sort of intelligence agencies put out rubbish like that.

  3. Patzcuaro

     /  30th August 2018

    Conservatives at war with reality

    “At the national level, the conservative movement is engaged in an all-out war against reality. If reality does not conform to conservative ideology and to conservative narrative, then it is reality that must be altered, if necessary by government edict.

    The nuclear threat from North Korea is gone, President Trump told us, except it isn’t. A new trade deal has been reached with Mexico, except it hasn’t. Huge tax cuts to corporations don’t make the deficit skyrocket, but there it is, skyrocketing nonetheless.”

    • Griff.

       /  30th August 2018

      To paraphrase a well worn adage.
      Conservatives May Have Loaded the Bases, but reality Bats Last.
      Clinging to an unreal world view is going to catch up to conservative politics sooner or later.

      • Joe Bloggs

         /  30th August 2018

        I really don’t know about that Griff. The conservatives have so JimJonesed themselves over BLOTUS that they’d rather drink the Koo-Aid and bring the world down with them. Just look at some of the entrenched views from the alt-reich on this site.

        I’m starting to think that this whole sad mess in the US will only be resolved by a full-blown civil war.

        And I have no doubt that it’ll be the gun-toting NRA twunts and trumpy’s other moronic mouth-breathers who fire the first literal shots as they defend to the end their rich-white-male privilege

        • Griff.

           /  30th August 2018

          That’s a possible outcome It would be amusing to see the usa split along Conservative liberal lines once the dust settled.
          For all the rhetoric of tragic conservatives about thier economics there is a interesting fact they ignore .

          Last week, as my colleague Sifan Liu and I were gnawing on some questions asked by Jim Tankersley of The Washington Post, we happened upon a revealing aspect of the election outcome. While looking at number of influences on the presidential vote outcome, we found that in a year of massive divides, one particular economic split stands out.

          Our observation: The less-than-500 counties that Hillary Clinton carried nationwide encompassed a massive 64 percent of America’s economic activity as measured by total output in 2015. By contrast, the more-than-2,600 counties that Donald Trump won generated just 36 percent of the country’s output—just a little more than one-third of the nation’s economic activity.

  4. Joe Bloggs

     /  30th August 2018

    Here we go again with the FBI and their loony lefty, subversive insistence on actual facts.

    tweets from the unindicted co-conspirator in federal crimes and his alt-reich propaganda arm Faux News are giving support to a story with no basis.

    Why? Because that story serves the ongoing purposes of villainising Clinton, demeaning the FBI, and disparaging the notion that there is any objective truth. Of course on the same day, the unindicted co-conspirator in federal crimes was tweeting how we should never trust anything with an “anonymous source.”

    It’s a line of attack that worked for the unindicted co-conspirator in federal crimes in 2016 … but someone might want to let him know that Clinton isn’t on the ballot this year.

  5. Patzcuaro

     /  30th August 2018

    On reflection.

  6. NOEL

     /  30th August 2018

    China has come back and said it does not hack.

  7. unitedtribes2

     /  30th August 2018

    So what is known for sure is Clinton’s Emails were hacked and the info ended up with Wikileaks. The rest is conspiracy theory. My theory is it was downloaded in-house to start with then whatever.

    • David

       /  30th August 2018

      There is talk that the DNC server was accessed by a DNC staffer furious at the way Bernie was shafted by the Clinton camp but he died not long after in I think it was a “car crash”.
      Legal action is being taken against the DNC and Victory for Clinton for campaign contribution violations and washing the money between them, probably wont be covered here but given the excitement over Trump/Cohen/Stormy its nothing unusual.