Media watch – Wednesday

12 September 2018

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    • Gezza

       /  September 12, 2018

      Crap. Just about all Google delivered throughout that campaign was Trump, Trump, Trump. Clinton was virtually non-existent. You had to try all sorts of queries to get anything featuring Clinton, and most of that was Trump & her other detractors like Fox News and Tucker Carlson slagging her off.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  September 12, 2018

        The vast majority of Trump links were Lefty MSM stories trying to take him down. The campaign the link above describes was targeted at Latinos. So of course numpty didn’t see it.

        • Gezza

           /  September 12, 2018

          The vast majority of Lefty MSM Trump stories were reporting the endless stream of lies and outrageous claims, slanders and slurs that Trump made part of his campaign. They were mostly factual and simply pissed off people like you who didn’t want those used against and longed for him to be your anti-liberal hero. If he was discovered to be a flaming necrophiliac you would still say, never mind that, everybody has their little flaws – I just look at their economy, sharemarket and job statistics. My hero can do no wrong.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  September 12, 2018

            They didn’t piss me off at all and your ridiculous squirrel is no distraction from the fact that Google was campaigning for Hillary.

            • Joe Bloggs

               /  September 12, 2018

              We know all about how the frothy right manipulates “facts” and to hear it again from the chief knob of lemmings-for-trump just reinforces the conspiracy-laden stupidity the right is peddling.

            • Gezza

               /  September 12, 2018

              Says the man who backs the POS running Amerika who kept telling everyone Obama’s birth certificate was fake and he wasn’t an American.

    • MaureenW

       /  September 12, 2018

      They sure went to a lot of questionable effort to affect a win for the candidate reported to have a 99% chance of winning, including the “insurance policy” which appears to be currently unravelling.

  1. David

     /  September 12, 2018

    Alongside 93% of media coverage being negative these are indeed strange times especially when you consider ISIS has just about gone, growth is 4.3% and employment is at record highs.
    I am a very happy Google (Alphabet) shareholder and with Trump behind huge shareprice rises and Ardern collapsing the NZD these are indeed happy times.

    • Gezza

       /  September 12, 2018

      Isis has not just about gone. It has spread, and is are thriving in Afhganistan especially, where they are vigorous competing with the Taliban & responsible for about half to one third of the attacks on government & US forces and foreigners’organisation, in Iraq (where it has simply blended into the population and still carries out occasional suicide attacks on government and Kurdish forces and militia and on Shiites generally anywhere, in Syria, where it is one of the terrorist groups still to be seriously tackled by Assad’s forces and the Russians. in Pakistan, in the minds of those attackers still operating in Western Europe.

      Boko Haram and Al Shabab – aligned to ISIS – are highly active with attacks and suicide bombings in several countries in upper Africa – we just don’t see much about these in our media.

      All that has gone is Raqqa and the area they ruled directly. You swallow too much official bullshit from the US.

      • Gezza

         /  September 12, 2018

        Sorry – I forgot Yemen. They are prominent in Yemen too. In fact I believe they control a significant area in Yemen.

      • David

         /  September 12, 2018

        Gone from Iraq and Syria. No more beheading videos, trucks driving over french people, machine gun attacks in night clubs. Think back a year and what dominated headlines.
        Obama stuffed up by announcing the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan ahead of time as all the nutters just bidded their time and his gifting of billions to Iran and lifting sanctions has given them the wherewithal to wreak havoc in Yemen, not letting the Saudi,s off the hook but its an Iran driven proxy war.

        • Gezza

           /  September 12, 2018

          Not gone from Iraq & Syria. Will possibly be gone from Syria when Assad, Iran and Russia have cleaned out & terrorised Idlib, but even then, still uncertain.

          The US is constantly stuffing up in Afghanistan. They are defeated there. They will always be defeated there. Every foreign invader is. They have no concept at all of how that country operates. The only force that has ever controlled that country as close to completely as possible is the Taliban.

          Even now the US keeps desperately trying to quietly persuade the Taliban to join the government there in failed negotiations. They loathe the US and any regime backed by the US.

          The Saudis are attempting to establish their own Caliphate – they are smart enough not to declare it. They have enlisted the willing complicity of the Arms Dealer, Trump, and the odious Netanyahu. For now.

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  September 12, 2018

            Trump is withdrawing aid from Pakistan so we will see what impact that has.

          • Gezza

             /  September 12, 2018

            Closer relations with Russia and China, from what I hear. Also likely to soon deny take steps to deny overflights to the US, which routinely invades its airspace to assassinate alleged Taliban leaders & kills innocent people in villages (often without getting the Taliban leaders) – something else not reported in the US or Western Press. One of the things pissing the US off mightily right now is that Pakistan is now buying most of its arms from China. As you say, it will be interesting to see what happens. The US is not a natural ally and has been a particularly nasty one for them.

            • Gezza

               /  September 12, 2018

              Most of the US’s “aid” has been arms & military equipment, Al. When it sells war material to whoever is happy to pay for it – it calls it “aid”. It’s what they do in the US. Everybody else calls it arms trading. Arms manufacture international trading is a big jobs beneficiary of Trump’s policies.

            • Gezza

               /  September 12, 2018

              Item two on 1ewes tonight was an in-depth (for them) report on the biggest Russian Millitary Exercise since 1981 – with vid of tanks, AFV’s, attack helicopters, amphibious operations, and air power – including testing their anti-aircraft missile capability – being conducted in Vostok from today since 1981.

              China for the first time for decades, is participating and one of their military commanders was extolling the benefits opf military cooperation for both countries.

              It is apparently a massive excercise, featuring all their most modern war-making capabilities.

              Fortunately a Russian Military spokesperson explained that as always it is threatening nobody and this exercise, like all of them, is purely defensive.

  2. There was quite a controversial Garrick Tremain cartoon in the ODT recently.

    This one is quite good from Hubbard.

    • David

       /  September 12, 2018

      Tracey Watkins in Stuff thinks Ardern needs to smack Peters a little bit but I wonder if she is polling and realizing her numbers will tank if she proceeds with some of her pet policies and Peters is taking one for the team.
      Her instincts are pretty awful when she thinks for herself, think CGT election promise reversed and oil and gas shock announcement.

      • Gezza

         /  September 12, 2018

        In terms of intellectual firepower Jacinda is by far the dimmest PM we have had in my lifetime so far. I think she is just basically pretty dense. U was hopeful there might some serious intellect with her but it’s as obvious as the nose of one’s face there’s really not much going on in that head but slogans & woolly thinking.

        The only real hard thinking being done by this government is done by Robertson, Peters, & Jones.

        • Gezza

           /  September 12, 2018

          (And I need remedial proof-reading lessons urgently today.)

      • PDB

         /  September 12, 2018

        I think simply she has been bluffing her way through the PM job since day one but only now are the wheels really starting to fall off her wagon whilst the MSM have tired of the fluff pieces Ardern has done up to this point.

        Ardern’s history as an MP is a poor one full of underachievement for a person so high up the Labour list – to expect her to transform into a great PM was wishful thinking especially now the novelty of her being the youngest PM & a working woman with a child has started to wear off.

        • David

           /  September 12, 2018

          I would be surprised if she is still PM by the middle of next year and to be honest I wouldnt blame her or think she had failed or anything. She didnt want the job in the first place and is only there because her MPs are woeful and there are few of them doing anything to make it easier for her. She has a new baby and with luck she will give her a sibling.
          Both jobs are very taxing and its superhuman to expect anyone to do both well.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 12, 2018

            She didn’t want the job in the first place ? Dream on. One doesn’t become PM against one’s will.She could resign and nobody could stop her.

            She assured us that she could do both jobs. If she can’t do both well, she should hand the PM’s job to someone who can do it well. That’s what we pay her to be; a PM, not a mother. Her baby is her problem, and she’s making it ours with things like landing taxpayers with a bill for a private plane ride at $100,000.

  3. I see on the ALCP (cannabis party) website.. there is a twitter feed item, interview featuring S LeBrun, talking on current Med-use issues.. maybe of interest

    http://alcp.org.nz/

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  September 12, 2018

      Darkies is a racist term and a highly offensive, patronising one.

      • Corky

         /  September 12, 2018

        So is snowflakes, Dick Tracy.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 12, 2018

          Hardly in the same league. The Dick Tracy thing doesn’t become wittier with endless repetition, odd as that may seem.

          • Corky

             /  September 12, 2018

            ”Hardly in the same league.”

            You can’t quantify something that’s subjective.

            ”The Dick Tracy thing doesn’t become wittier with endless repetition.”

            WHAT? I usually say: ”No shit, Sherlock. What are you on about? I change the record..and you still aren’t happy.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 12, 2018

              No, your memory is at fault again, Dick Tracy has been the favoured cliche lately.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 13, 2018

              You may see that as ‘subjective’. To most people, the expression darky/darkie is a racist, offensive insult.

              Snowflake is not racist and not in the same league for being grossly offensive. It’s derogatory, but darky/ie is similar to nigger.

  4. Zedd

     /  September 12, 2018

    a few items from ‘Democracy Now !’ (USA Indep news):

    1) Massive Hurricane Florence is about to hit USA coast.. ‘Climate Change’ in action ??

    2) Mr T, meanwhile is about to further reduce restrictions on ‘green house gas’ emissions; Methane.. whilst many EPA staff leave/resign over this

    3) J Bolton (USA Sec. State ?) states that the ICC (Intl Crim. court) members are not welcome & they intend to block their efforts to investigate any issues around USA & Israel’s activities (WAR Crimes)

    fake news.. or just MrT again showing his/his cronies ‘TRUE Colours’ (Total self interest) ?

    • Corky

       /  September 12, 2018

      Let’s hope those reports are true. Climate Change Cultists need taking down a peg or two.

      • Gezza

         /  September 12, 2018

        I think that’s the IPCC position too.

        • Corky

           /  September 12, 2018

          The same organisation that a few years back sent reports back to the originators because they weren’t up to standard. For an indoctrination service to do that means some of those reports were baaad!

          • Gezza

             /  September 12, 2018

            Sorry to hear that, Corks. Can I assume from your obvious relevant qualifications & expertise, & all the balanced internet research you’ve now done into this matter – that you perhaps were one of them ? o_O

            • Corky

               /  September 12, 2018

              I can’t reply to you unless you know something of the IPCC and their disappointment of submitted material a few years back. I read mine in New Scientist magazine if I remember correctly. You should be able to find something on the net if you do a quick Google serach.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 12, 2018

              You can assume that…

            • Gezza

               /  September 12, 2018

              I used to check all their reports and the criticisms out Corks. As someone not trained in any of the relevant sciences nor the multiple types of detailed statistical anlaysis tools used to check and cross check scientific date, and after some interesting discussions with my Masters level science teacher nephew, currently teaching in Maryland, I realised I wasn’t remotely qualified enuf to critique what data and charts and arguments I was looking at, and nor were some of the IPCC’s critics, many of whom aren’t appropriately qualified & trained either, and others of whom – who are qualified – are simply at odds with most of their colleagues – not unusual in several sciences. However I am happy to bow to your obviously superior intellect if that will make you happy.

            • Corky

               /  September 12, 2018

              I have no qualifications either. All I said was the IPCC is looked upon as THE AUTHORITY on the science of CC. When they return studies to authors as not up to scratch it says something about people in this scam.
              If it was a few reports that would be expected, but not the run they had a few years back. Your sarcasm is unfounded. Nowhere did I make myself out as some expert.

              Here’s an interesting link …in a number of ways. Even Augie Auer makes the list. (d)

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_who_disagree_with_the_scientific_consensus_on_global_warming

            • Gezza

               /  September 12, 2018

              My sarcasm is a response to my perception of yours. I sometimes read your opinions on this matter but regard them as unqualified & prejudiced towards the denialist end of the debate rather than a balanced evaluation, and thus of no more substance than mine. However you have every right to hold those opinions and they are based on something, so I apologise for the sarcasm.

              My reaction to the whole debate now, Corky, is to observe the weather, year to year, and the ice. I have seen nothing that suitably explains the warming trend by natural or solar or orbital causes. I think AGW is happening, but to what degree is uncertain and can be and is argued because the increments are so tiny.

  5. Priorities?