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13 September 2018


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  1. Missy

     /  13th September 2018

    As some of you may know (gleaned) I have connections to the NZDF, and I have many friends who work in Government and the NZDF – including here in London. These links meant that today I was invited to attend the Blessing Ceremony of a sailor that will be returned home as part of the Te Auraki project.

    Te Auraki (The Return) is a project from the NZDF to return servicemen who died, and were buried, overseas during 1955 and 1970. The servicemen being returned are being returned at the request of the families, some families declined as no-one close was still alive and those remaining wanted to leave their remains in peace.

    It was a wonderful thing to be part of, and curiously quite emotional considering I did not know the person (or his family). Tomorrow will be the exhumation, and the sailor from today, and one other to be exhumed, will be returned to NZ in a couple of months.

    I am not sure how I feel about the exhumation, but can understand why some would want their loved ones closer to home. Talking to the contractor who is doing the exhumation was interesting, he said most of the exhumation’s he does are for repatriation and (despite what TV would suggest) very few are for criminal investigations.

  2. Sorry things are a bit slow here today. Last night I forgot to schedule the regular posts so had to do those when I noticed they weren’t there this morning. And I made the mistake of turning on a new WordPress editing system, which is takes some getting used, and so far has been quite a pain.

  3. lurcher1948

     /  13th September 2018

    Fellow posters your views on this child’s actions, and should we let in the rightwing Pauline Hanson when she would assault a young child.NZ should have far higher standards than Australia

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  13th September 2018

      I think that the child is being used, She was probably put up to it.

      Most national anthems don’t stand up to being nitpicked and examined like this. God Save the Queen sounds pretty silly when it’s examined word by word. This girl’s stance won’t change anything. If they scrapped the anthem,nothing would change.

      France’s national anthem celebrates mass murder and violence and incites them. I wonder what she and her parents would make of that.

    • Corky

       /  13th September 2018

      She looks like a little snowflake to me. The type that will become mentally unstable should she see a cat run over ( not a pleasant experience, I must admit).

      There’s an ideal behind a national anthem. If princess wants to disrespect that she should be told to fug of to an aboriginal reservation where she can support real aborigines who don’t live in an middle class suburb..and who may possibly assault her in a variety of ways when drunk.

    • Griff.

       /  13th September 2018

      .The kid is just pointing out the emperor is naked. The majority of kiwis dont believe in god lurch
      I refused to sing the anthem in school back in the seventy’s as asking god to do anything struck me as absurd even then.
      God save NZ is outdated and irrelevant to most of us .

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  13th September 2018

        What about the Marseillaise ?

        Calling on people to take arms and stain their weapons with impure blood , now that the blood-stained flag has been raised…the day of glory has arrived.

        It’s actually God Defend New Zealand, you seem to be confusing it with the UK one.

        That child is reading far too much into one line, I think. I noticed that she says ‘us’….meaning white Australians, not all Australians.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  13th September 2018

    It’s ALWAYS about Donald when Donald tweets about…himself
    Donald J. Trump
    Verified account

    9h9 hours ago
    We got A Pluses for our recent hurricane work in Texas and Florida (and did an unappreciated great job in Puerto Rico, even though an inaccessible island with very poor electricity and a totally incompetent Mayor of San Juan). We are ready for the big one that is coming!

  5. Zedd

     /  13th September 2018

    I just saw a website for ‘SETEK Therapeutics’.. a proposed med-cannabis company in NZ.. I was a little surprised to see Mr Dunne is one of their board of directors !

    He maybe now ‘singing the praises’ of this issue.. but he spent about a decade constantly ‘ducking & weaving’ around it 😦


    “Freight cost rises for a wide range of goods is inevitable says the National Road Carriers Association, the country’s leading road transport organisation.

    “Road transport companies are under increased cost pressure from a variety of directions which will flow through to consumers,” says David Aitken, NRC’s CEO.

    Next month (1 October) Road user charges are due to increase – by up to 10 percent – depending on the weight and type of vehicle.

    “This will affect every trucking company nationwide,” says Mr Aitken. “When the majority of goods we consume are delivered by truck to where we purchase them it is inevitable the cost of the goods will increase.”

    Other cost increases facing road transport operators include rising fuel prices, insurance, wages and salaries, congestion and waiting times at the ports.

    “Fuel prices have gone up, 13% in the last 4 months alone as a result of increasing crude oil prices and the weakening New Zealand dollar against the United States dollar.”

    Mr Aitken said companies in the Auckland area were already paying 11.5 cents a litre more for fuel as a result of the recently introduced regional fuel tax.”

  7. Gezza

     /  13th September 2018


    As it is blindingly obvious Simon Bridges is incapable of original thought, and is in any case unlikely to make it through to the next election as no one could seriously countenance yet another winceable nasally overgrown prep kid with piss-poor English diction – who do people think is – and will be – actually determining National’s new policy programme?

    Judith? Party HQ via their usual high-end business “sponsors”? Big Gerry? Anyone else? I’m just curious.

  8. phantom snowflake

     /  13th September 2018

    @MatthewHootonNZ lol

  9. Trevors_elbow

     /  13th September 2018

    Yes Andy… it’s the system that’s the problem and jails are full of Angel’s who are misunderstood….

  10. Gezza

     /  13th September 2018

    Interesting issue arising in Question 9 about Maori being used to insult members and get away with it.

  11. Gezza

     /  13th September 2018

    I will post Question 10 when available.

  12. lurcher1948

     /  13th September 2018

    Guess what rightwing blogger stated this,andt he’s Nationals man to post attack posts
    ” And as I have stated many times, no one pays me a cent to blog anything”.

  13. Zedd

     /  13th September 2018

    In the media & other places.. there seems to ‘reports’ that this Govt. is about to explode.. with comments about ‘the tail(s) wagging the dog & then ‘this Lab.-led Govt.’ being bound or impeded by Winston/NZF etc.

    BUT in Q-time Winston seems clear ‘Welcome to MMP’ & this Govt. is just as tight/credible as it was; on day #1 🙂

    It seems clear, that more Natl try… the further they are from causing disparity/division ! 😀

    • phantom snowflake

       /  13th September 2018

      This desperate tactic by National of trying to drive a wedge between coalition partners is most likely counterproductive; it will piss off the New Zealand First MPs and make them even less likely to form a coalition with National in the future.

  14. lurcher1948

     /  13th September 2018

    Soper and Williams two old farts cackling to keep their NZME jobs

    • Corky

       /  13th September 2018

      Hear the news, Lurchy? Fonterra makes its first ever loss…on Labours watch. Perception is everything. I’m coming close to predicting an early election.

      • lurcher1948

         /  13th September 2018

        Fonterra,$196 million loss..should have employed my wife, brilliant with our budget, employ a foreigner, you get what you employ,
        PS does he want his $8000000 in gold or US dollars

      • PartisanZ

         /  13th September 2018

        No way a corporation the size of Fonterra could turn around their fortunes and make a significant loss in a single financial year, let alone the 10+ months since the government changed … let alone it somehow be the Labour-led government’s ‘fault’ … That’s just clutching at straws …

        The precursors and reasons for this loss are firmly embedded throughout the 9 years duration of National’s reign.

      • Blazer

         /  14th September 2018

        maybe they weren’t paying the ‘going rate for talent’.Bol!

  15. Corky

     /  13th September 2018

    Wow! Now Winston has been talking bs. So much grist for the mill.

    • Gezza

       /  13th September 2018

      Yes, but then, in frustration, they look and listen to Simon as the alternative, and think:
      “Christ ! Rock and a hard place here !
      Just relax. Maybe things will improve?”