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  1. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018

    So it’s Monday,here’s a thought,have the [deleted] Canadians refunded their supporters ticket prices and more importantly”who leaked the limogate expensise and is a bit suicidal”in the National party

  2. To clarify, it is not “snowing down south”. More accurately it is snowing in some parts of the South Island. In most parts it’s not snowing. But it is quite a bit cooler than yesterday.

    • lurcher1948

       /  September 17, 2018

      Arrowtown looked lovely with snow falling

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 17, 2018

        With WHAT falling ????

        It’s so warm here that I have had a fan going all day.

    • David

       /  September 17, 2018

      Ski season running until the end of October, relief after 3 rubbish winters and hopefully the Aussies will be over.

  3. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018

    Running my eyes over the GD on a nearby right wing blog you get the usual babyish anti Labour posts but worrying for National and Simon Bridges hate posts against Simon Bridges.The altright want Collins in charge,poor snowflakes,if she’s the solution National have big problems.

    • Corky

       /  September 17, 2018

      Yes, National have big problems. What to do with a broken country they will inherit in 2020. Cut energy payments for starters…ban Maori language week for seconds.😄

  4. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018


    says it all

    • Corky

       /  September 17, 2018

      Apparently the cap will increase one dollar once tariffs are imposed.

      RSI? Oh, Russian Scandal Implodes.

  5. Corky

     /  September 17, 2018

    This guy is right. Democracy never came to Iraq. America got it wrong.

    http://bostonreview.net/archives/BR28.1/dower.html

  6. Corky

     /  September 17, 2018

    A new B vitamin has supposedly been discovered. I also believe we are still three substances short of a full periodic table.

    https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/mike-hosking-breakfast/audio/professor-charles-brenner-b3-vitamin-dicovery-important-for-life/

  7. Corky

     /  September 17, 2018

    If you are elderly and on an aspirin a day you may want to reconsider no matter what the doctor says.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heart-health/daily-aspirin-may-be-harmful-healthy-older-adults-large-study-n909791

    • lurcher1948

       /  September 17, 2018

      Most heart aspirin,are coated to bypass dissolving in your stomach, great natural blood thinner

      • Corky

         /  September 17, 2018

        What difference does that make?

        • Corky

           /  September 17, 2018

          It is a good blood thinner, but no better than aged garlic, and with none of garlic’s other benefits.

          • lurcher1948

             /  September 17, 2018

            YAWN

            • Corky

               /  September 17, 2018

              I have no idea what YAWN is good for…but i doubt it will beat aged garlic.
              Should be on One News tonight.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 17, 2018

            The aspirin story is a hardy perennial.

            If garlic is too aged (age-ed rather than aged as in aged 10) it would surely lose its goodness. Also, aspirin is a lot more convenient than chewing garlic and less smelly.

            • Corky

               /  September 17, 2018

              Might pay to do your research on this product first. For example it has little garlic taste.

              You may be thinking of garlic bulbs thrown in the boiler cupboard.

              https://www.supplements.co.nz/products/nutralife-kyolic-high-potency-everyday-formula-112-120caps?utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=googlepla&variant=938798325&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5py63qbB3QIVDQUqCh2xNwFwEAQYAyABEgJ0W_D_BwE

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              Hardly.

              I know the difference between aged (two syllables) and aged (one syllable) The former means old (an aged person) or ripened…the second is used as in a child aged 5.

              What kind of person would throw garlic into a boiler cupboard ? I assume that you mean hot water or airing cupboard.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              DOES anyone ever do that ?

            • Corky

               /  September 17, 2018

              I have taken this product for 25 years. It’s the mainstay of my health regime.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              That must be handy when you travel; you’d always have a row of seats to yourself.

            • Corky

               /  September 17, 2018

              No smell. No taste.. just health benefits.

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Corky’s right garlic tablets having no garlic smell or taste Kitty.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              He didn’t mention tablets, just garlic bulbs.

            • Corky

               /  September 17, 2018

              ”I know the difference between aged (two syllables) and aged (one syllable) The former means old (an aged person) or ripened…the second is used as in a child aged 5.”

              Apparently you don’t… read the label.

              ”What kind of person would throw garlic into a boiler cupboard ? I assume that you mean hot water or airing cupboard.”

              What kind person, apart from a nitpicker, would make such a fine distinction? I have heard all three names used.

              ”DOES anyone ever do that ?”

              You tell me. You seem pig ignorant about aged garlic. I wouldn’t have a clue what people do with garlic bulbs.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              You were the one who said that ptople threw them into the ‘boiler cupboard’ for some reason.

              Thank you for calling me a kind person and saying that I made fine distinctions, but making yourself out to be a nitpicker…well, let’s not go there…

              Yes, I do know the difference between the two words; I explained it. The first is pronounced age-ed, the second is pronounced aged.

              Now run away and eat garlic pills.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              You were the one who said that people threw them into the ‘boiler cupboard’ for some reason.

              Thank you for calling me a kind person and saying that I made fine distinctions, but making yourself out to be a nitpicker…well, let’s not go there…

              Yes, I do know the difference between the two words; I explained it. The first is pronounced age-ed, the second is pronounced aged.

              Now run away and eat garlic pills.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              If you don’t know what people do with garlic ‘bulbs’, why say that they throw them into hot water cupboards ? That’s a very odd thing to say (and do)

              I can’t believe that anyone doesn’t have a clue about what fresh garlic is used for.

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              He didn’t mention tablets, just garlic bulbs.
              This is true. Look, I think my helpful assistance is not required here & that you’re both doing fine on your own so I’ll just tip toe out.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              Well, he is such an ass and really asks for it…it’s an irresitible temptation to give it to the poor fool. He then ties himself in knots trying to get out of it and claiming that he didn’t mean that, even though he has just said it.

              What a meshuggeneh.

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              (I hate it when that happens with my html)

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              Be thankful that you have never forgotten to take something out of ‘footnote’ and printed most of a 20,000 word essay as a giant footnote.

              Yes, this does entail doing the whole thing again.

            • Corky

               /  September 17, 2018

              Perhaps if you stopped trying to troll and cover up your ignorance you would be minus 20,000 words. That would be a relief to many.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 18, 2018

              Perhaps if you stopped trolling (NB, disagreeing with someone is not of itself trolling; to someone with an inflated ego, anyone who dares to differ from them is a troll, but this is NOT the usual definitiion) and stopped displaying your ignorance, you might begin to make sense, That would be a relief to untold people.

              Your post is devoid of meaning. It’s nonsense, It’s gibberish.

    • Griff.

       /  September 17, 2018

      Lurch you need to delete anything that comes after “jpg”.

      • sorethumb

         /  September 17, 2018

        Interesting meme init: health vitality, prosperity versus wheezy smoking old person with saggy eye lids (Griff)?

      • Gezza

         /  September 17, 2018

        Actually althogh I could hear someone’s baby crying in the background at the very start of that safe space disaster recovery performance yesterday, I haven’t seen much at all of Neve & except for the Speaker’s threats & that awkward “mum’s special flight” business she hasn’t really been noticeably in the public’s face.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 17, 2018

          I really thought that they’d choose a more original name than Neve.

          It must have been decided that being too mumsy was not a good look. There’s a limit, also, to how much one wants to hear about things like someone else’s baby’s pooing habits (did we really need to know about Neve’s poos ?) It’s just not that interesting.

          • Gezza

             /  September 17, 2018

            I never get into offering opinions on babies’ names. There have been so many I haven’t liked over the years, including in my own family, & they’ve just grown on me because the kids have, & I’ve realised there are so many factors people consider when they name a child – they know they’re giving that child their name for life – it’s neither fair nor remotely anything to do with anyone else.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              If a name is as common as that, it’s hard to put one’s own stamp on it.

              One poor child was called Josh Rogan, and a local boy was burdened with the name Paranoyd. Then there’s Tommy Gunn…yes, his parents called him Tommy, not Thomas, because they thought it was funny.

          • robertguyton

             /  September 17, 2018

            They’re criticising the baby’s name now.
            Help me, Jesus!

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Excuse me? I’m emphatically not. Who is “they”?

              Don’t listen to him Jesus. He doesn’t need your help.

            • robertguyton

               /  September 17, 2018

              Kitty and her ilk.
              Don’t worry about Jesus, Gezza; He and I – we go way back!

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              It was a simple observation; it’s hardly an original choice. It’s one that will date the owner, like Maree and Toyah.

            • robertguyton

               /  September 17, 2018

              There’s a name that doesn’t date the owner, Kitty?
              What name is that?

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Don’t worry about Jesus, Gezza; He and I – we go way back!

              I don’t worry about Jesus. Sometimes he asks for my opinion.

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Jaweh – hard to date that one – has always just existed ?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              I said that there are names that date the owner, and there are.Giving a child a trendy name means that you are dating it.

              The ones I gave are obvious examples.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  September 17, 2018

              Hey Robert…

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Kitty and her ilk.

              I’m not sure that Kitty actually has an ilk, tbh, robert.

              In my experience she’s pretty original. Never encountered anyone quite the same.

              She sometimes goes where no man would dare to tread and I just keep my head down.

            • robertguyton

               /  September 17, 2018

              Gezza – I’m trying now, to restrict my commenting to only adult sarcasm that makes the critics here laugh. So far, I’ve drawn blanks, but eventually something mature and amusing (to the panel here) might occur to me and I’ll surely send that on through. Till then, best I breath through my nose. Apologies for this particular post which I know (and you know) isn’t the slightest bit funny, nor adult, likely enough).

            • Gezza

               /  September 18, 2018

              No I do understand robert. I have been misunderstanding your sense of humour & sanctimonious with you and I’m sorry for that.

  8. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018

    Least we forget about Nationals candidate selection or lack off
    https://croakingcassandra.com/2018/09/13/on-the-anniversary-of-learning-about-jian-yang/

  9. sorethumb

     /  September 17, 2018

    During the trial against former Khmer Rouge members in 2007 for their crimes against humanity, Samphan had the audacity to say this:

    “What I want to say today and what I want my countrymen to hear is that as an intellectual I have never wanted anything other than social justice for my country, I shall shout loudly that I never wanted to agree to any policy that is against the Cambodian people.”

    Samphan, with the other nihilistic decadents like Pol Pot, Nuon Chea (he’s also in the photo with black sunglasses on), leng Sary and Hon Yon are responsible for the brutal execution and starvation of 1.5 million-3 million Cambodians. To achieve their Agarian, Marxist utopia, the Khmer Rouge members put a bullet into my great-aunt’s brain in front of my mother (she was only 5). My great-uncle, my cousins, nieces and nephews were killed possibly by the use of hoes to the back of their heads repeatedly. The same fate was met with Cambodians all over the country including children as young as 9-months-old.

    Like Zedong, Pol Pot wanted to erase Cambodian history and start over hence, “hour zero” and“year zero”.

    This is what confuses me about these Communist pigs (Animal Farm reference), they had intellectuals, teachers, bankers, dancers, singers and anyone who wore glasses were killed. Their jobs were deemed, “useless”. Yet, Samphan, Pot and Sary were educated in France at the University of Paris! Samphan even received his doctrine at the Sorbonne! Pot and his wife were teachers and all of them came from upper middle-class families. In France, that’s where they were indoctrinated by Marxist-Leninism ideology.

    Their logic is impassable, the amount of antinomy is evident and their false histrionic protest of social justice for the Khmer people is the exact disposition that I’m seeing what the so-called SJW’s is preaching today.

    Look, the working-class needs a voice, it’s good to care for each other but you can’t blame me for not seeing your halo from where I am sitting and becoming quite suspicious of your “revolutionary” tendencies for the “proletariat”.

    I’m fascinated of these spoiled brats who put themselves as the preachers of the working class while drinking their triple, Venti, half sweet, non-fat, caramel macchiato bragging how much they are saving the environment while driving a Toyota Prius.

  10. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018

    They are back..did they ever go away?

    • Gezza

       /  September 17, 2018

      They did at this whare. Not really interested in their family time, especially now Sir John’s ridden off into the sunset in his golf cart.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 17, 2018

        I suspect that that photo has been photoshopped,It looks like it, the proportions and angles are wrong.

        • Gezza

           /  September 17, 2018

          You’re right & if it’s something one of them posted as humour ok , but if somebody else has done it maliciously it’s at the nasty end of the humour spectrum. But it’s a bit of a grey area when Max enjoyed high-profiling himself & political cartoons often make really pertinent points but can be vicious if you’re offended by them. Politics requires a really thick skin and a really relaxed sense of humour I think.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 17, 2018

            This doesn’t look real, somehow. The head in front is too big and there’s something odd about the way that it is facing.

            Making someone look ridiculous isn’t funny. This isn’t a cartoon.

      • robertguyton

         /  September 17, 2018

        I didn’t…recognise them – were they..famous?

        • Gezza

           /  September 17, 2018

          Yes. In NZ, anyway. The one on the left is Sir John Key, & the one on the right is his son, Max. I’m surprised you didn’t recognise Sir John, but some people aren’t all that visually perceptive with faces.

          • robertguyton

             /  September 17, 2018

            His nose…is that frostbite? Did he…discover the South Pole? The other one…his pet rabbit? Maybe pulled the…sled?

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Who is this? Are you one of robert’s granchildren? What are you doing on his computer using his ID?

            • robertguyton

               /  September 17, 2018

              Not funny? Not adult enough?
              I’ll try again.

            • robertguyton

               /  September 17, 2018

              Kitty said:
              “I suspect that that photo has been photoshopped…”
              Funny? ‘zit?
              Then “This doesn’t look real, somehow.”
              Again, the stuff of giggles?
              What’s wrong with my sense of humour??

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              I’ve got no idea wtf that even means robert?
              How is what you’re saying above funny?
              I’m serious, that MIGHT be kind of funny to a 10 year old but not all of them. I just go by what you write.

            • robertguyton

               /  September 17, 2018

              We are at an impasse, Gezza. Our sense of humour seems not to be shared. That’s a shame.

            • Gezza

               /  September 17, 2018

              Mine’s pretty broad. Playing a straight bat can be really amusing sometimes.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  September 17, 2018

      Bank economists have a long and distinguished track record in getting house price predictions completely wrong. However they will struggle as Labour gets to work wrecking the economy.

  11. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018

    The RIGHT here and on nearby rightwing blogs scream out our beloved Prime Minister Jacinda Adern is a COMMUNIST due to the fact in her youth at some conferance she said (comrade) but in parliament, at the moment there is an interesting person who cannot be mentioned, maybe PG can tell us why
    https://croakingcassandra.com/2018/09/13/on-the-anniversary-of-learning-about-jian-yang/
    Why is the PM called a communist….when

    • Blazer

       /  September 17, 2018

      unbelievable…Ardern cancelling appearances is a BIG story…but Dr Jiang…'(he has refused all media comment to English language media for months, while apparently being quoted regularly in the PRC-dominated Chinese language media). He has been fully backed by both the previous and current National Party leaders.’

      refuses point blank to talk to English language media!!

      • Corky

         /  September 17, 2018

        Dr Jiang ain’t running the country.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 17, 2018

          She said ‘comrade/s’ ten times at a conference just before the election, hardly in her distant youth.

          • robertguyton

             /  September 17, 2018

            She said, “comrade”?
            Off with her head!*
            *Shouted imperiously

          • lurcher1948

             /  September 17, 2018

            Dont you have problems with some nutter from PortonDown germ warfare bring work home Kitty cannot keep blaming Russia.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 17, 2018

              Highly unlikely that anyone there WOULD bring something home….what would it be ?

        • robertguyton

           /  September 17, 2018

          “Dr Jiang ain’t running the country.”
          Ya reckon?

          • Corky

             /  September 17, 2018

            Come to think of it, who knows? Maybe Winston and Jiang? We can safely assume Shaw wont be in the picture.

        • robertguyton

           /  September 17, 2018

          Dr Jiang is a Communist, in fact, isn’t he?
          A Communist, in The National Party?
          Is it…true???

        • lurcher1948

           /  September 17, 2018

          Corky Corky didnt you say mean things about our PM,just asking

  12. robertguyton

     /  September 17, 2018

    “No more charter schools

    National’s charter schools are now officially dead:
    All 12 of New Zealand’s charter schools have been approved for transition to state integrated schools.

    It marks the end to a rather short era.” I/S @ NRT
    Good.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  September 17, 2018

      As I said, the Left is hell bent on ensuring the poor remain trapped in a ghetto of failure and don’t escape to vote against them. Tragic.

  13. robertguyton

     /  September 17, 2018

    Oh, dear!
    “Former Prime Minister Jenny Shipley and husband Burton were in court for the opening day of the high-profile case against Mainzeal’s former directors.”
    A National Party PM, in court !!
    Caught!

  14. lurcher1948

     /  September 17, 2018

    Watching Godfather 2 the best movie ever made and that’s a fact

    • Blazer

       /  September 18, 2018

      exhume dead Conservative leaders and you’ll find they don’t decompose…they just …rust.