Jacinda Ardern at UN General Assembly

This does sound like a concerted Ardern versus Trump approach to politics.

Full text: PM’s speech to the United Nations

112 Comments

  1. robertguyton

     /  September 28, 2018

    Watching live – Jacinda’s astonishing! Speaking with reading, eloquent, confident and Prime Ministerial.
    I heard her emphasise, “we will not allow any new exploration for oil and gas” – sweet – we’ll hold her to that 🙂
    Kitty! What do you think of Jacinda’s white outfit – elegant, aye! She looks wonderful and speaks like a seasoned, trustworthy Leader.

    • She looks very capable as a potential world leader, as far as speech making goes anyway.

      She is having a lot more trouble looking like a competent leader of a one small country.

      • robertguyton

         /  September 28, 2018

        Leave out the negative digs, Pete – enjoy Jacinda’s time in the limelight – she’s quite extraordinary, I’m sure there are none who could criticise her very, very impressive work at the UN. She’s just been applauded by the Assembly.

        • I didn’t know she worked at the UN. And I am sure an eleven-year-old could figure out what to say in order to be applauded by that assembly.

          • Blazer

             /  September 28, 2018

            P.M of NZ on a world stage is working for NZ seaman Stanes.

            Very uncharitable observations you have there .

          • Gezza

             /  September 28, 2018

            Well those there gave her spontaneous applause during her speech. They laughed at Trump.

          • phantom snowflake

             /  September 28, 2018

            Congratulations! You finally made a comment without mentioning Islam!

    • Blazer

       /  September 28, 2018

      everyone please sparte a thought for Traveller……sincerely hope she gets through this in time to see Jacinda in her new summer,polka dot…swimsuit.

      • Traveller

         /  September 28, 2018

        Thanks for the kind thoughts and caring (almost Ardernesque) caring Blazer. 😇

        Any annoyance I’ve previously felt at her self serving branding and one dimensional platitudes has morphed into amusement. Her earnest Duke of Edinburgh award speeches are so contrived, so lacking in sincerity I feel it’ll only be a matter of time before the rest of the cynical world see past the benevolent Hall Monitor deameanour 😀

    • robertguyton

       /  September 28, 2018

      And she pronounces “kaitiakitanga” perfectly!

    • robertguyton

       /  September 28, 2018

      *speaking without reading her notes

      • Gezza

         /  September 28, 2018

        She was turning pages, robert. She was reading them.

        • Gezza

           /  September 28, 2018

          Also she made a couple of minor word corrections – definitely a mis-read.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 28, 2018

            She may have learned the old teacher’s trick where you glance down and briefly memorise a section of whatever it is and say it rather than obviously reading it from the page. It’s not that difficult to do,

      • Gezza

         /  September 28, 2018

        She just said on 1ewes, robert, that the line about “Metoo must become Wetoo” which got her the spontaneous applause, was a late addition, made in the car – “late enough that it wasn’t in the prompter”. I think she and all the others have a teleprompter. I’m not sure how the technology works but teleprompters are almost invisible to the audience these days.

    • Gezza

       /  September 28, 2018

      Those bloody d’s instead of t’s still irritate me – she got spontaneous applause for

      “me too must become we too” re domestic violence and discrimination against women.

      She did Maori proud with her intro and end. They’ll be rightly pleased.

      May be a bit naive, but she did a good speech focused on what young people want to what looked like a half full hall. Wonder if her US media fans mention her speech.

      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 28, 2018

        • Blazer

           /  September 28, 2018

          why such never ending negativity.

          Its the default position for the right.Tut Tut.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 28, 2018

            Here’s a more unbiased assessment just to make you feel better! 🙂

            • Gezza

               /  September 28, 2018

              There were only 3 ‘ambitious’s, no absolutely’s and not even one ‘aspirational’ in her speech, so that’s a major step up from the norm.

              So I think that’s a bit unfair from Geoff – who frankly looks to me like he might be a wanker?

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 28, 2018

              I think you’re right Gezza. He might be.

            • Gezza

               /  September 28, 2018

              Looks like he’s visited here HFD?

    • Gezza

       /  September 28, 2018

      Whoever’s doing makeup for her US appearances is doing a good job. She always looks nice.

    • sorethumb

       /  September 28, 2018

      Any realist knows that oil and gas power the economy; that the economy results from an exchange of goods and services; that it isn’t that (all) these are necessary for survival of the species but for large populations (overshoot). One economist on RNZ says our optimum population was 2 million, yet the Greens are part of that globalist agenda that minimises population issues and cultural differences and believes in spreading people round while educating (one ideology over everyone’s).

      • robertguyton

         /  September 28, 2018

        Everyone’s a realist, sorethumb.

        • sorethumb

           /  September 28, 2018

          Who will be bumped from a state house thanks to Golly Fake’s refugees?

          • robertguyton

             /  September 28, 2018

            Are there any state house left following National’s purge???

            • Gezza

               /  September 28, 2018

              Yes – and Labour are building more. As I recall, National said it was flogging off the rubbish stock that needed fixing up (or words to that general effect)?

      • Blazer

         /  September 28, 2018

        name the economist…absolute crap.

  2. robertguyton

     /  September 28, 2018

    Kindness, that’s her message. Beautiful.

    • It’s certainly a good message, but the message back here involving Meka Whaitiri continues to send an unkind message – Ardern’s big challenge here is matching her rhetoric with reality and with actions.

      • robertguyton

         /  September 28, 2018

        Pete, the title of your post is “Jacinda Ardern at UN General Assembly” and that’s the topic, yet you are determined to drag negative issues, dealt with in other posts, into this one, in order to try to take some shine off Jacinda’s excellent address to the UN. Are you trolling your own blog???

      • lurcher1948

         /  September 28, 2018

        The Maori female who gave the maori grip has gone, KEEP FLOGGING the dead horse,WHO LEAKED Simons expenses, was it Simon???was it a dirty deeds done dirt cheap hit job, who leaked the details of bruises,a national party plant…so many questions,so much dirt to spread,fire up those attack posts on the non payed rightwing blogs

    • sorethumb

       /  September 28, 2018

      robertguyton / September 28, 2018
      Kindness, that’s her message. Beautiful.
      ……….
      900 people applied for a flat in Napier. Kindness is not being racist. New Zealand was a “racialising project”. In order to overcome that (unkindness) we embraced diversity but could not admit that immigration was harming New Zealanders.

      • phantom snowflake

         /  September 28, 2018

        That’s at least the seventh time you’ve brought up faeces and carcasses. You ok??

  3. Tipene

     /  September 28, 2018

    Anyone listening to this who thinks that Ardern in any way holds our countries interests as a legitimate priority is has been marinating in the media-induced kool-aid for WAAAAYYY too long.

    The woman is a traitor to our nation, and a sick joke.

    • Gezza

       /  September 28, 2018

      She did a very good speech.

      • PartisanZ

         /  September 28, 2018

        She did a very good speech … expressing the wave of positive, intelligent, compassionate and balanced change gently but rapidly washing over our country … and simultaneously scouring out the old, rotten, negative karmic, dis-eased, cancerous *shite* …

        • sorethumb

           /  September 28, 2018

          PartisanZ / September 28, 2018
          She did a very good speech
          …………
          Litmus test = Terrible

          • robertguyton

             /  September 28, 2018

            You’re using the wrong test, sorethumb (just sayin’)

    • Corky

       /  September 28, 2018

      I’m sure the bros in the Maori caucus are already plotting her demise, Tips. They see writing on the wall for her..and them..if they don’t do something soon. Don’t know who will take her place..but whoever does the numbers will know were to enquire first.

      • Gezza

         /  September 28, 2018

        Hardly likely. Best thing that ever happened to them. Look at some of them. Only other thing left for some of them would be broadcasting.

    • lurcher1948

       /  September 28, 2018

      YES YES and what about the BAAABEEEE,, yes shes really a traitor unlike that nice whats his name Simon Bridges. and the beautiful kind National party

  4. david in aus

     /  September 28, 2018

    Jacinda, world famous in NZ.

    • sorethumb

       /  September 28, 2018

      She’s a cult like figure as she shot to prominence on nothing other than her womanhood.

      • robertguyton

         /  September 28, 2018

        Yeah! Any woman with a new-born baby could have done it – taken on the Prime Ministership of NZ – go, sorethumb, you Alpha-Feminist, you!

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 28, 2018

          If you think that she was given the job for any other reason than the PC ones that she was female, youngish and pregnant, you must be very gullible.

  5. PDB

     /  September 28, 2018

    Good of her to fill the difficult lunchtime spot – I wonder who spoke when everybody returned?

    • PDB

       /  September 28, 2018

      “quite thunderous applause in the room”

      Good backing track or the echo from all the empty seats?

    • Corky

       /  September 28, 2018

      Damn.

      • PDB

         /  September 28, 2018

        Soper had to correct the host on ZB yesterday who said Ardern had spoken to a packed house a few days back by pointing out she actually spoke in front of around 100 people & her speech was really a side-event to the main speeches happening elsewhere.

        • PDB

           /  September 28, 2018

          Soper this morning said Ardern spoke to a largely empty building as most people had left since the main leaders had finished & many had reached maximum talk-fest burnout. Neve also became unruly and left the building with Gayford who was also keen to find some people to hang out with.

          • Corky

             /  September 28, 2018

            ”Soper this morning said Ardern spoke to a largely empty building.”

            Sad.. and it becomes worse when she returns to Aotearoa. That’s when her glittering carriage turns back into a pumpkin.

            Welcome home, Jacinda..er, about our country?

    • robertguyton

       /  September 28, 2018

      PDB – your stick, it’s over there, in the mud (cheer up, chap, there’s much more of this lovely stuff to come!).

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 28, 2018

        A bawling baby is very annoying and distracting anywhere and it’s very discourteous to everyone else to have it there. The UN is not the place for this.

        Clarke G looked very scruffy; couldn’t he have mde a bit more of an effort ?

  6. lurcher1948

     /  September 28, 2018

    Must be boring over on Kiwiblog saying the same thing everyday, they have migrated here to whine,and bad mouth Jacinda…8
    more years

  7. High Flying Duck

     /  September 28, 2018

    Sounds like Jacinda performed as expected – she is a very good speaker and communicator. You cannot fault her delivery or her ability to convey her message.

    • PDB

       /  September 28, 2018

      …and that message was?

      • robertguyton

         /  September 28, 2018

        Kindness, PDB – want some?

      • High Flying Duck

         /  September 28, 2018

        Her messages are always vague vision statements with wishy washy feel good sentiments that no-one would ever disagree with.
        And they are always presented with the passion and aplomb of a debate team leader.
        It worked very well for Obama as well, so we can’t criticise too much – the UN speech is hardly going to achieve anything groundbreaking so speak clearly & with feeling, throw in a few sound bites – job done.

        • Blazer

           /  September 28, 2018

          ‘If you see your brother standing by the road
          With a heavy load from the seeds he’s sowed
          And if you see your sister falling by the way
          Just stop and say, you’re going the wrong way
          You got to try a little kindness
          Yes show a little kindness
          Just shine your light for everyone to see
          And if you try a little kindness
          Then you’ll overlook the blindness
          Of narrow-minded people on the narrow-minded streets
          Don’t walk around the down and out
          Lend a helping hand instead of doubt
          And the kindness that you show every day
          Will help someone along their way’-G.Campbell

          • High Flying Duck

             /  September 28, 2018

            Kumbaya Blazer, Kumbaya my friend.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              Duck….The UN Song

              Someone’s woffling there, kumbaya,
              Someone’s rambling there, kumbaya,
              Someone’s burbling there, kumbaya,
              Oh lord kumbaya

              Or

              ,Kara, kara, kim ay aye, the stars will guide me on my way.
              kara kara kara kara kim ay aye
              Kara kara, wait for me, when I return across the sea,
              Kara kara , I’ll be back some day,

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              Oops, too many karas in line 2

          • PartisanZ

             /  September 28, 2018

            Touched a nerve …?

            Listen to the applause from a 1968 American audience for this –

            • High Flying Duck

               /  September 28, 2018

              That was tortuous Parti. I almost ripped my ears off listening to it.
              Not sure what you’re getting at.
              I genuinely thought Jacinda did a good job. She presented well and has received glowing coverage from the liberal elites. But the content of her speech was about as deep as that song.
              Overall she presented herself and NZ in a good light. I haven’t looked too hard, but haven’t seen any negative coverage anywhere.
              And the baby seemed to be a glass ceiling revelatory epiphany for many. I wonder if they would think the same if there were 80 babies in there crying and requiring attention, but it was undoubtedly symbolic.

            • PartisanZ

               /  September 28, 2018

              I go with whatever comes to mind … that song came to mind …

              It’s called spontaneity = an new response to an old situation or an adequate response to a new situation …

              Much of the world, I believe, is involved in trying to actively suppress it.

              Marae manage korero admirably with babies cooing, grizzling or crying and children running around … Don’t see why the U.N. couldn’t … Probably do them and the world the world of good …

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              As there have been women with children in politics for some time, and she is not the first to have one in office, it’s hardly a great ‘first’. Men are expected to get on with being parents and politicians without applause and parading the child. Why are people astonished that women can do what it’s taken for granted that men do ? It’s not very flattering to women that amazement greets their achievements as if there is something incredible about the fact that women CAN do things.

  8. PartisanZ

     /  September 28, 2018

    Good speech … Excellent speech …

    I notice you slipped this in PG – “This does sound like a concerted Ardern versus Trump approach to politics.”

    I heartily disagree. I few pointed comments sprinkled about hardly a “concerted” anti-Trump approach makes … Anyhow … I thought Righties were vehemently against tariffs and protectionism?

    I’m more inclined to think that Trump’s approach to politics is a concerted Trump versus the supposed “establishment” false dichotomy appeal to ignorance …

    Already previously hard-core globalization Righties on here like Alan are talking “nationalism, patriotism and protectionism” because of Trump’s approach … in their TRAWLS … Trump & Republican Adoration & Worship Litigeous Scrawlings …

    Jacinda’s is an extremely balanced approach by comparison … No shortage of national pride in her words … and plenty of acknowledgement of the importance of internationalism – multilateralism – around international issues … which is what the United Nations is for!

    She must be smart … She’s got plenty of supposedly smart people thinking she’s dumb …

  9. Strong For Life

     /  September 28, 2018

    Kindness, she states. What a laugh.

    Where was your kindness Ms Ardern when you refused to help Abby Hartley and left her to die in a Bali hospital?

    Where was your kindness Ms Ardern to the victims of Labour Youth Camp sexual assaults and underage drinking? Covered up hoping it would all go away.

    Where was your kindness Ms Ardern to the female prisoner officer sexually assaulted by a prisoner that members of your Cabinet said was only a tap on the bottom?

    Where was your kindness Ms Ardern to the victim of assault on a staff member by your Cabinet member Ms Whaitiri? The Minister was demoted, not sacked, and the incident far worse than you reported as the leak now confirms. If an “old white man” did this to his employee he would have been condemned by both you and the unions (rightly so) and he would have been arrested and sacked.

    Kind is an easy word to say but far harder to put into practice isn’t it Ms Ardern.

    • Blazer

       /  September 28, 2018

      you are a lightweight with very feeble,pathetic arguments….do you want Ardern to prescribe the weather for you…too.

    • lurcher1948

       /  September 28, 2018

      Buy the correct travel insurance,be open with the facts and get bridges mates for help out, sorted…Strong for life

    • robertguyton

       /  September 28, 2018

      *needs a hug

    • Corky

       /  September 28, 2018

      Great list of offences, Strong Dude. Given the hornets nest you have provoked we can safely say what you wrote is correct.

      • robertguyton

         /  September 28, 2018

        Hornets’ nest?
        Ha ha ha ha!
        Mild rebuke. Gentle faux-support, maybe, but hornets’ nest??
        Don’t
        think
        so.

  10. Zedd

     /  September 28, 2018

    “Go you good thing !”
    Lets do this….. 🙂 😀

  11. sorethumb

     /  September 28, 2018

    Kindness = refugees. Costs borne by those bumped out of state houses.

  12. Griff.

     /  September 28, 2018

    JADS on here in spades.
    Jacinda Ardern is getting heaps of good cover for NZ around the globe
    We want tourists.
    Might not be the messge some want but ffs its worth millions of dollars every time she gets a mention on tv or in a newspaper.
    They are more likely to head for a country that is seen as touchy feely nice and happy clappy than some right wing conservative restrictive button down wankhole.
    Get over your selfs righties Jacinda’s off shore adventure is excellent adverting for NZ inc.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  September 28, 2018

      Yep, because I have a hankering to go to Germany whenever I see Angela Merkel & to hop across to Canada because I see Trudeau respecting women on the world stage.
      Nothing drags in tourists like seeing a Prime Minister!

      • PartisanZ

         /  September 28, 2018

        Definitely wouldn’t mind going to Canada …. I’d love to experience a relatively progressive nation before I shuffle off this mortal coil …

        • High Flying Duck

           /  September 28, 2018

          The problem is the progressiveness is morphing into suppression of free speech and thought control.
          All is well as long as you follow the orthodoxy of what is appropriate.
          I doubt that would impact on a holiday though – Canada would be a great trip.

          • PartisanZ

             /  September 28, 2018

            What you call “morphing into suppression of free speech and thought control” might just be the appearance of a hitherto unknown to you aspect of human pro-social behaviour ….

            Kindness.

            • Blazer

               /  September 28, 2018

              no money in..kindness Parti…so no interest from the right.

            • PartisanZ

               /  September 28, 2018

              Oh yes, of course, I forgot, the only way to incentivize anything is to make it pay.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 28, 2018

          Shuffling off this mortal coil doesn’t mean dying.

          • Gezza

             /  September 28, 2018

            Yeah it does. I googled it.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              It does now, but didn’t necessarily, as a mortal coil is a burden.

            • Gezza

               /  September 28, 2018

              Yes, and where Shakers The Rude uses it, Hamlet seems to be describing life itself as a burden.

          • Griff.

             /  September 28, 2018

            “To sleep, perchance to dream—ay, there’s the rub, for in that sleep of death what dreams may come when we have shuffled off this mortal coil, must give us pause. There’s the respect that makes calamity of so long life.”

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              I know where it comes from, thank you.

              It can be taken two ways, as a mortal coil is a heavy burden,

            • PartisanZ

               /  September 28, 2018

              Well Miss Kitty, you can take what I said to have either meaning …

            • Griff.

               /  September 28, 2018

              Actually we all know it comes from this ,’

              ‘E’s not pinin’! ‘E’s passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! ‘E’s expired and gone to meet ‘is maker! ‘E’s a stiff! Bereft of life, ‘e rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed ‘im to the perch ‘e’d be pushing up the daisies! ‘Is metabolic processes are now ‘istory! ‘E’s off the twig! ‘E’s kicked the bucket, ‘e’s shuffled off ‘is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

      • Blazer

         /  September 28, 2018

        what do you think drags in tourists..duck?Hobbiton,scenery…??

    • PartisanZ

       /  September 28, 2018

      And maybe for Aotearoa New Zealand community trust as well … ?