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28 September 2018

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  1. Gezza

     /  September 28, 2018

    “It is Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s big day at the UN as she delivers her first statement as Prime Minister to the UN General Assembly. Ardern is due to give her speech early this morning, likely between 6am and 7.30am.” Herald

    Links and more on Ardern in New York here:
    https://yournz.org/2018/09/28/ardern-on-the-night-show-and-one-planet-summit/

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  2. Corky

     /  September 28, 2018

    What makes President Trumpy special.

    On the news yesterday were two unintentional narratives for anyone noticing recurring patterns.

    One news item had Jacinda sitting down with two other world leaders talking trade. The staged PR shot reeked of plastic smiles, ineptitude and business as usual. A little like the UN wanting to continued dialogue with Iran instead of talking firm action..”HELLO”

    The other clip showed a Chinese UN delegation in consternation after President Trumpy accused ChIna of meddling in the up coming mid term election.

    WAFFLE V STRAIGHT TO THE POINT.

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    • Blazer

       /  September 28, 2018

      Trumpanzee Corky…Trump reeks of…sincerity…uses car salesman technique…’lowball shock’.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  September 28, 2018

        Wow,China and Russia verses the USA with Trump as commander in chief, if push came to shove who would win???
        PS the USA has not won anything worth mentioning just saying

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        • The Us played significant roles in WW1 and WW2 – why is that not worth mentioning?

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          • Blazer

             /  September 28, 2018

            their entry wasn’t altruistic.

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            • Corky

               /  September 28, 2018

              Neither was Japan’s.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              Blazer, I read a book of reminiscences/interviews with old WWI soldiers, and only one had a good word to say for the Americans. One said that an American soldier commented on their hats being the same, and the Kiwi said that there was a difference; his had been worn for three years.

              They all thought that the Americans were badly trained and not very competent and didn’t appreciate them coming swanning in at that stage when everyone else had been there all through the war.

          • Gezza

             /  September 28, 2018

            WW23?
            Probably right, but that’s a pretty worrying prediction.

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          • lurcher1948

             /  September 28, 2018

            They came in LATE when all the hard work was done by the real soldiers IE NZ.From Korea,onwards they never have won anything,they go into a country,stuff it up and those they fight end up winning in the end.I would suggest they dont take Iran on as the people there remember the USA appointed ruler of the peacock throne who was overthrown.
            PS im watching Vietnam on netflix,the USA only good at killing innocents

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            • Gezza

               /  September 28, 2018

              They came in late, but it took a long time for Roosevelt to persuade the folks at home that they should come in at all. They did most of the Banzai nutter cleanout from the Pacific single handedly.

              Not fair Lurchy. I may not agree with a lot of what they’ve done since – but in WW2 – they did their whack: they had plenty of casualties on the ground and in the air.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 28, 2018

              They came in late to WWI and acted as if they’d won it single-handed.

      • Corky

         /  September 28, 2018

        ”Trump Derangement Syndrome.”

        Take the best pieces of your life and concentrate on those when your symptoms are at their worst, Blazer. 😄

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  3. PartisanZ

     /  September 28, 2018

    ‘1080 confirmed as killer of cows’ – Newsroom

    “Don’t make the mistake we made. Don’t agree to poison being spread on your land unless you fully understand all the risks to your stock, your business and the massive emotional toll.”

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/09/27/255200/1080-confirmed-as-killer-of-cows?preview=1

    Excellent letter to the editor in this week’s Northern News from Di Maxwell –

    “One only has to visit Puketi to confirm trapping works. The trust does a wonderful job of keeping people employed. It’s insulting to say the only forests full of native birds are those poisoned with 1080 … [which] is great at killing everything else, which is wonderful news for rats. They quickly repopulate. One pair can breed up to a million in 18 months, creating plagues”

    Indeed, one outbreak of the Black Death in London happened after a misguided cull of the city’s dogs and cats …

    Rats are the preferred food source of stoats …

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  4. PartisanZ

     /  September 28, 2018

    ‘Five things to know about the future of farming’ – Newsroom

    “The reality is that there are no ‘zero emissions’ technologies available for pastoral agriculture, so eliminating these emissions completely is not feasible, but reductions are both possible and consequential,” says Gluckman’s parting report.

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/09/27/255006/five-big-issues-for-farming-gases?preview=1

    Another alternative might be to reduce our reliance on “pastoral farming” – grass & [imported] palm kernel fed livestock – in favour of horticultural crops?

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    • robertguyton

       /  September 28, 2018

      Horticulture done smartly – “traditional” horticulture – that practiced in New Zealand in the 50’s, 60’s & 70’s was not environmentally friendly, using excessive amounts of nitrogen, as well as pesticide/fungicide/molluscicides etc. A “new” approach to growing crops is needed, drawing from past systems that were positive in terms of environmental effects.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  September 28, 2018

        Totally agree Robert … and since the world likes “organic” … Why not give ’em what they want?

        Imported ingredients not required as far as I know …?

        “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.” – Hippocrates

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  September 28, 2018

    The smartest thing said on AM today”SHUT UP MARK”

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  6. Rickmann

     /  September 28, 2018

    Dear Blazer (whoever you are) and other knee jerk anti-Americans, if it was not for the (often very) young men of the USN, USAAF and USMC who sacrificed their lives in Guadalcanal, the Coral Sea and other actions in the Solomon Islands campaign and onwards, all of the people rabbiting on on this blog would not be here. From extensive captured Japanese documentation about where NZ and Australia were going to fit into The Greater Asian o-prosperity Sphere, of which most of you are unaware, it is clearly stated that “all males were to be castrated an worked to death and all males were to serve as “comfort women’ which we know from the experience of the Korean, Chinese and Dutch “comfort women” meant “servicing” up to 80 Japanese soldiers a day – and the Japanese like em really young.

    Oh, by the way, those very same Marines who sailed to their deaths and disfigurement from NZ ports had to load their own ships because the NZ wharfs union refused to.

    This written from Akasaka, Tokyo, Japan where I am visiting my half Japanese sons and their children.

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    • Blazer

       /  September 28, 2018

      do you have the inside info on Vietnams plans to invade Australia and NZ too!!

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    • PartisanZ

       /  September 28, 2018

      Rickmann, It’s 2018. The very complicated Imperialist war of 1939-45 over global industrial resources – including labour – and world markets – while never to be forgotten, is a long way behind us and can now, thankfully, be viewed and analysed using numerous 21st century perspectives … including hindsight …

      If simple blood sacrifice is to justify or condemn a nation’s activities forever into the future we must renounce our powers of reason and compassion both …

      We might end up with a ludicrous situation whereby a country’s national identity hinges upon its participation in a disasterous campaign attempting to invade someone else’s country at the behest of her colonial ‘masters’ somewhere across the seas 103 years ago in the previous Imperialist war over resources and markets …

      And if we do renounce our powers of reason and compassion both, as you suggest we should, we might expect to have yet another Imperialist global conflagration over resources and markets?

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    • lurcher1948

       /  September 28, 2018

      God bless Donald Trump POTUS#45 and if it wasn’t for his bone spurs Donald would have been the brightest strongest BRAVEST US soldier ever and with his HUGE brain he would win any war like WW2 single handed and those Viet Kong would have shivered at the mere mention of his name if it wasnt for those pesky bone spurs

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  7. Corky

     /  September 28, 2018

    Crikey, I’m feeling good..oh, must be the old dowager’s been held up in the supermarket by immigrant shoppers.😃

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  8. I attended the protest march today at Otago Uni. to show the contempt for the recent actions of the campus proctor… entered student flats without permission & removed./destroyed ‘bongs’ (private property)

    There were reportedly about 600 student & concerned locals; waving banners & chanting.
    inc; The curator of Whakamana, who carried a ‘giant bong’

    I noted several local & national media/TV crews present !

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    • Gezza

       /  September 28, 2018

      Were you there when he fronted and publicly apologised and said with the megaphone that he accepts it was wrong, that he acknowledged their right to protest, and that he won’t do it again? They showed that on 1 ewes. Also one of the protest organisers giving him a hug afterwards.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 28, 2018

        I missed some of that story. The curator did himself no favours, if he was as stoned as he looked. Why encourage stereotypes ? He was a gift to the anti-dope brigade, of whom I am NOT one. But he looked like a stereotypical doper, and would do the cause no good at all.

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      • I was there.. but at the back, could not see/hear much of the talk, by the organisers

        BUT it was great to see about 600 students/supporters letting the proctor & others know what they think on this issue ! 🙂

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        • Gezza

           /  September 29, 2018

          I think he had the best of intentions & they’ve forgiven him. Which is the best outcome. As he said, people make mistakes.

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          • maybe it was perhaps ‘blown out of proportion’ ?
            BUT the main point still remains; does the proctor (or other Uni staff) really have legal rights, to enter student flats (without permission) & confiscate/destroy their property ??
            “NO” was the general concensus !!

            There was a comment that, had the Police been notified.. it would have been worse.. with possible arrests, BUT had the proctor not taken this action, it was unlikely that this would have even become known to the public or police ?! :/

            responding to Kitty.. I could not smell any ‘illegal weed’ during the protest.. but it is possible that some may have partaken before or after ? 🙂

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            • Gezza

               /  September 29, 2018

              No, I don’t think it was blown out of proportion. I think the students were well within their rights to protest, & that the proctor was well out of order.

              But I also think the Proctor showed he’s a caring bloke, not a nasty one, that he’s intelligent enuf to realise he overstepped his legal & ethical boundaries, that he’s big enuf to face the students and tell them that, and that he’s genuinely sorry.

              And the students themselves it seems to me have shown they have the maturity and the empathy to accept his apology & let bygones be bygones. I hope that’s how it’s ended. I feel it was a mistake and we all make them. His just had a wider impact than ours would.

            • cheers Gezza

  9. Gezza

     /  September 28, 2018

    Winston, to the reporter on 1ewes at 6 (summat to do with his Racing Industry revamp proposals at a meeting of industry reps somewhere):

    “Time for them to wake up and smell the coffee!”
    “Typical parochial provincial New Zealanders – everybody else’s fault but theirs!”

    Not sure how his Provincial Champion would see this? 😀

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