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28 September 2018

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32 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  September 29, 2018

    For genealogy buffs. I became lost after they left New Zealand.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12133734

    • Gezza

       /  September 29, 2018

      Too bloody tragic and depraved for me. I didn’t even finish reading it.

      • Corky

         /  September 29, 2018

        Just as well, it’s near impossible to read. I remember an X-File programme with a similar theme. It was banned in the States for a time. But that programme had nothing on this case.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 29, 2018

          Why bother to post such a vile story when it was printed in the Herald anyway ?

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 29, 2018

            Hello, PDTs, it seems that you don’t see this as vile and a pointless thing to repeat.

            Your prerogative, I suppose.

  2. Blazer

     /  September 29, 2018

    I’m picking the caring,kind cameraman votes…N…

    • Corky

       /  September 29, 2018

      Someone has to document the plight of third world citizens, Blazer.

      • Gezza

         /  September 29, 2018

        Took 3 days to train the boa and a month to train the cameraman

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  September 29, 2018

          The young man has the boa’s tail in his hand, and I have read that this will make it impossible for the boa to crush someone as it can’t wind itself round them and coil itself tightly.

        • Corky

           /  September 29, 2018

          😃

    • PartisanZ

       /  September 29, 2018

      Actually …. two cameramen … sorry … camera operators …

  3. robertguyton

     /  September 29, 2018

    Bridges stuffs up again !!!
    “National seems to have a major problem respecting the property rights of music copyright holders.

    There was the great John Key rip off in 2007 when he put out a DVD that had music that sounded suspiciously like Coldplay’s Clocks.

    There was 2014 when National used Eminem’s song “Lose yourself” as part of their campaign. They won the election but lost the court case. If only this had been reversed.

    Then in 2017 they stole borrowed heavily off Bob Dylan for their last campaign theme.

    Each of these incidences involved the use of saccharine loaded songs that resembled the real thing. National was not that stupid as to use the original song.

    Until now.

    From Tom Dillane and David Fisher at the Herald:

    Move over James Corden and Adele, there are some new carpool karaoke divas on the scene in the form of National leader Simon Bridges and MP Chris Bishop – but the promotional stunt may land them in legal strife.

    • High Flying Duck

       /  September 29, 2018

      Yeah, a headline story in the Herald about something that may or may not be a problem filled with an “experts” view of what defences they could use – click bait article.
      If someone actually complained or sued I would understand the article.
      The Herald gets far too much in to coulda’s and what if’s these days. It is a sad shadow of its former status.

      • Blazer

         /  September 29, 2018

        Mr Bridges is better to avoid publicity stunts…(Bennett has already used that one) and get on with presenting some actual policies that would make NZ a better…place.

        Any news of the ..leaker yet?

        • High Flying Duck

           /  September 29, 2018

          You mean like Andy Little?

          And I don’t think they know who leaked the Wheta report or Winston’s phone calls yet – but don’t worry, they are investigating!

        • lurcher1948

           /  September 29, 2018

          Doesn’t she talk to Duncan Garner EVERT Friday

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 29, 2018

            The Eminem song was obtained from an agency that does these things. There would be no reason to suppose that the agency didn’t have the authority to let it be used when it was paid for.

            • robertguyton

               /  September 29, 2018

              National stuffed up, despite their cockiness, and had to pay.
              End of story.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  September 29, 2018

              Such lack of bias, it’s very creditable.

  4. More on music copyright issues – Stairway to heaven is going back to court.

    Listen to this:

    Here is a good explanation of the differences.

    I think they must be different enough. All songs are derived from others. There must be enough variation here.

  5. Kitty Catkin

     /  September 29, 2018

    The PDTs have nothing better to do, poor things.

    • robertguyton

       /  September 29, 2018

      Kitty – statistics show…that you’ve a significant percentage of readers who don’t support your views. I’m in the same boat, but don’t care.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 29, 2018

        Gezza has what must be the record for PDTs…he had something like 18 and it may have ended up as more. The odd thing was that he wasn’t saying anything controversial that might have caused all those PDTs to downtick.

        I think that some PDTs do it as a reflex when they see certain names….the fool/s will downtick one person and uptick another when the two are saying the same thing. Small minds, I suppose.

        • Gezza

           /  September 29, 2018

          I needed counselling for weeks. Some people can be very cruel. Everybody knows I’m bloody sensitive ! >:D

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  September 30, 2018

            I didn’t larf, I didn’t ! I didn’t think that it was funny 😦

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  September 29, 2018

        As you don’t know how many readers there are, how do you know what percentage are PDTs ?

  6. I read on ‘Scoop’ that the DEA (USA Drug Enforcement agency) is about set to reschedule CBDs (cannabidiol) from Schedule #1 to #5. (Federal level)
    Under Schedule #1, the drugs listed are supposedly ‘Most open to Abuse & of NO known medicinal/therapeutic value’. Interestingly, over half of the USA states have already legally regulated the medicinal use of cannabis (inc. CBDs).
    This change could well, finally see the other states allowed to regulate CBDs (from the federal level) ?

    There is also a clause in the current NZ Govt. bill that will remove CBDs from the outdated MODA ’75 & allow them to be prescribed

    It seems that the current USA Schedule #1 classification is the main block on a wider, global ban on medicinal cannabis.

    The ‘loophole’ in the MODA, that already states that ‘a patient can bring up to one months prescribed medicine with them from overseas’.. was abruptly closed, when Dunne said it only applied to Federal/National laws, not state ones. This has seen visitors from USA, with state-based medical cannabis prescriptions, turned away from entering NZ

    it seems…’The times they are a-changin’…’ 🙂

    • Gezza

       /  September 29, 2018

      I always include this one in a set if I’m playing anywhere. Pity Bob’s such a grumpy, arrogant bugger. He’s written some excellent songs in his time.

      • Zedd

         /  September 30, 2018

        cheers Gezza

        I have watched quite a few clips of Zimmy in his early days (acoustic) & then later when he moved to electric guitar & band.. he was vilified by many ‘diehard fans’ for this. BUT this song title was actually a statement of this & other issues… CHANGE is constant

        It was interesting that he won the Nobel prize in 2016.. not for his music but for literature; his lyrics 🙂

        • Gezza

           /  September 30, 2018

          Some of his early studio recorded electric stuff with The Band (Like A Rolling Stone, Positively 4th Street, Just Like A Woman – & so many others with and without them – I just love them. But he or whoever owns his copyright won’t allow those hit and album versions on YouTube, sad.

          A lot of his later lyrics seem like they are saying something but often the lines are just collections of phrases that aren’t really connected. Quite surprising, but I listen to the melody rather than the words in songs. A remarkable talent but an arrogant bugger.

  7. Gezza

     /  September 29, 2018

    9 bloody clocks to check and change. 😡