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7 October 2018


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  1. Gezza

     /  October 7, 2018

    Can you imagine Simon Bridges as Prime Minister? That earnest way he answers questions. His always-furrowed brow. His pleading eyes.

    It’s like he’s begging you to take him seriously. It’s like he’s learnt his lines.

    That’s the look of a politician trying to imitate something he doesn’t have. Authenticity.

    Bridges never quite felt right for the leadership. It’s that lack of authenticity, the baggage of the last government, the public obsession with his diction. But, there was always the chance Bridges would grow into the role.

    Fat chance. Bridges is close to blowing it. His time is almost up.

    Can anyone remember so many msm journos basically telling Andy he had to go the way they all seem to be doing with poor Simon?

    • robertguyton

       /  October 7, 2018

      “Bridges feels like a placeholder leader. The party clearly hasn’t dealt with the John Key break-up so they’ve picked someone who reminds them of Key.”

      • In contrast National are going ok.

        Winston is very wrong when he says the National party is “moribund.” They are not making the mistakes of Labour’s shambolic, successive terms on the Opposition benches.

        And the issues they champion are getting cut-through: the increasing costs of living; government-by-working-group; ministerial scandals.

        The MPs are quietly getting on with the job. Patiently waiting for the chaos at the top to subside, and perhaps for the next leader-in-waiting to emerge from the wings.

        Imagine what the might achieve with a leader who connects with voters.

        • robertguyton

           /  October 7, 2018

          What might they achieve, Pete?

          • Poll results back in the 50s.
            Labour back in the 30s.
            NZ First poll results under 5%.
            Green poll results hovering around the threshold.

            • robertguyton

               /  October 7, 2018

              Nah. Their unpleasant face has been showing more and more, now that Key’s unguent can’t be applied to every unpleasant Nat behaviour. The only way for National is down. Blaming Simon (he was good in that checkout skit) is hardly fair; he’s representing National as it is; he’s the public face and New Zealanders are tuning off to it. Replacing him with Judith or another Nat horror is only going to accelerate their plunge. Get in behind Si – it’s not an easy job; cut him some slack, give him a chance to bed in. Vote Si, forever!

    • Andrea Vance: Bridges lacks skills vital to be PM

      …the bouhaha over who leaked National’s travel expenses was a crisis of his own making.

      And his handling of Jami-Lee Ross’ sick leave was excruciating.

      Both events show he lacks two skills vital to holding the premiership: strong leadership and smooth communication.

      On paper, he looks great: young, photogenic, Maori, real world and ministerial experience. But his media appearances lack weight and authority and he often gets tangled up in word salads.

      And the harder he tries, the less authentic he appears. And he’s a bit too slick to play well in the rural heartland.

      But, while Bridges lurches from one gaffe-laden press conference to the next, his MPs are making the most of opposition.

  2. robertguyton

     /  October 7, 2018

    “Far from undermining our parliamentary democracy, the Electoral Integrity legislation, which NZ First insisted form a central part of this new coalition government’s programme, now stands as a solid protection against any repetition of the constitutional outrage of 1998. That blatant attack on MMP which Peters’ perennial critics either cannot, or will not, acknowledge.”

    • PartisanZ

       /  October 7, 2018

      Saw Trotter’s missive yesterday Robert … Thanks for posting it.

      “Balance” again … Where Righties – and in this case many Lefties too – thought there was only their “truth” ….

  3. robertguyton

     /  October 7, 2018

    “CoalCorp was worried. It had sponsored Fred Singer – a physics professor who had been well-known for spreading the false notion that tobacco wasn’t bad for one’s health before becoming a leading climate change denier – to speak to industry figures in New Zealand. In its annual reports, the company portrayed climate change as an ongoing and uncertain debate, in which proactive regulation would be catastrophic for the economy.

    On the more public front, however, it wanted to change its image. CoalCorp as a brand was severe, unfriendly, so it opted for something lighter, signalling a new direction as an energy supplier: Solid Energy. Its logo, a lump of coal, became a rising sun.”
    After reading the article, who here, I wonder, would support Coal Corp/Solid Energy and mock those who fought for the snails?

  4. PartisanZ

     /  October 7, 2018

    ‘Pesky possums pose problem for PM Jacinda Ardern’s Premier property’ – NZ Heraldo

    “NZ’s first family has close encounters of the furred kind at Premier House … Baby Neve is not the only thing keeping the Arderns awake at night. The Prime Minister and her family appear to have a chronic possum problem at their Wellington home … A group of the pesky marsupials have taken up residence in the walls and on the roof of Premier House – the official residence of the Prime Minister in the capital.”

    Walk the talk … Spread a bit of 1080 poison bait around the place …

    • robertguyton

       /  October 7, 2018

      Possums? Thompson & Clark more likely.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  October 7, 2018

        First family ?

        Oh, please, we’re not in America.

        In the walls ??? that sounds a bit odd, it’s more like rats. Unless there are huge wall cavities there, it would be a bit of a squash for possums. Rats could live in walls.

        I wouldn’t advise poison. When I worked in the Education Department, the old wooden building that is now something else (I forget what), a possum died in a ceiling space and the smell meant that a large part of that floor was uninhabitable because of the stink. It’s amazing how far parfum de dead possum can spread.

  5. lurcher1948

     /  October 7, 2018

    Its easy to understand how this dodgy MP had to resign from parliament, over the years this bully has lost a can from a 6 pack, easy to understand when he gets guest posts on rightwing blogs
    David Garrett
    James: Yes, fair enough – to a point. But for how long should he be punished for what he did 20 years ago? As I said in my own comment, assault with intent to injure is not a minor offence…but it’s not a strike offence either.

    I never said this at the time for obvious reasons, but say I had been convicted of that offence 27 years prior to my pushing 3S…would that have made me a hypocrite? How long must pass until we can legitimately criticise something we did ourselves in the dim and distant?

    Provided there is nothing more recent – and if there was you can be sure Vance would have gleefully seized upon it – I think 20 years is probably enough time not to have what he did revisited now.

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  October 7, 2018

    I see Sir Key sold our artesian water all out to those crafty chinese water companies, no surprises here as National always sold out to any overseas companies,but of interest what past National MPs are on the boards of ALL these chinese water companies, One X PM comes to mind

    • Corky

       /  October 7, 2018

      No, he didn’t. I wonder who signed off on this? An election looms larger.

  7. Corky

     /  October 7, 2018

    Damn, I saw all those emotional women protesting against Kavanaughs selection to the Supreme Court.

    If Republicans think this is the end of that matter, they are sadly mistaken. Ditto for Kavanaugh.

    • Gezza

       /  October 7, 2018

      That’s a deeply riven country. If they’re not careful it’ll soon be a shit hole.