Pope faces ongoing pressure over widespread priest abuse

It seems that neither the Pope nore the Catholic Church has the will nor knows the way to properly deal with decades of widespread abuse by priests around the world.

The forgiveness card won’t wash until the Pope and the church fully accept responsibility and make clear changes to address the problem – including properly holding abusive priests to account. This means stopping trying to sweep the scandal under their pompous robes.

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It has happened here in New Zealand (both the abuse and the lack of appropriate action).  ODT: Communities respond to abuse: Dunedin opted for ‘prayer and penance’

There are no immediate plans for the Catholic Diocese of Dunedin to follow in Wellington’s footsteps by asking priests to fast to atone for historic sexual abuse by clergy.

It was reported yesterday priests in the Wellington region were spending the day praying and fasting to atone for clerical sexual abuse.

The gesture followed a letter from Pope Francis in August, in which he asked all Catholics to fast and pray in order that their ears might be opened to the “hushed pain felt by children and young people” as a result of clerical abuse,  RNZ  reported.

Monsignor Gerry Burns, the vicar-general of the Wellington Archdiocese, said priests decided to fast as a way of committing to a change of heart and church structures which allowed child abuse to flourish. Dunedin Bishop the Most Rev Michael Dooley said yesterday he “definitely” saw merit in the event, but there were no immediate plans for priests to fast in Dunedin.

Instead, a day of “prayer and penance” was held last week  at St Joseph’s Church in Brockville, he said.

They remain alarmingly out of touch.

A “moderate” number of people attended throughout the day, he said.

Bishop Dooley was also “looking at ways that we can gather in prayer and reflection to address the trauma of sexual abuse”.

The Bishops and the Pope can’t continue to try to hide behind prayer on this.

25 Comments

  1. PartisanZ

     /  October 7, 2018

    “We think young people should question the way the church has dealt with this in the past,” an abuse survivor said.”

    Imagine for a moment what might happen if this was any organisation other than the Catholic Church?

    There would literally be Hell-to-Pay … Priests, Clergy and even Church property probably wouldn’t be safe from public backlash, and certainly not from legal consequences …

    Maybe there needs to be a Nuremburg ‘Peace Crimes Tribunal’ …?

    See how lucky we are to have complete separation of Church and State … *SARC*

    Given the way the Church has dealt with this, I think people – young and old – should question the way the church has dealt with ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AT ALL in the past, particularly its own ‘religion’, Christianity … and especially church doctrines inimical to life … i.e. Unnaturally ‘celibate’ priests who minister to families and whanau … A church hierarchy virtually without female input or influence … the list goes on and on … sex, marriage, birth control, abortion … This isn’t a religion it’s a sickness.

    • Gezza

       /  October 7, 2018

      It’s not just the Catholic Church that’s had this problem. They’ve all had this problem.

      It beats me how more Christians don’t just wake up & smell the coffee and come into the real world or find another God.

      • PartisanZ

         /  October 7, 2018

        You are correct, although the Catholic Church appears to be far-and-away the most widespread perpetrator in this –

        “A 2013 study in Victoria, Australia, found that Anglican child sex abuse cases were one-tenth the number of Catholic Church sexual abuse cases”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_Communion_sexual_abuse_cases

        ‘Methodist Church apologises for abuse spanning decades’ – BBC News

        https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32909444

        I dunno why these perps aren’t rounded up and prosecuted like Bert Potter was?

        But it isn’t their God IMHO, it’s the Churches’ doctrinal representation of their founder’s teachings …

        • Gezza

           /  October 7, 2018

          I agree with your main point here, PZ. Totally.

          Imagine for a moment what might happen if this was any organisation other than the Catholic Church? There would literally be Hell-to-Pay … Priests, Clergy and even Church property probably wouldn’t be safe from public backlash, and certainly not from legal consequences …

          It’s disgraceful this hasn’t happened.

  2. robertguyton

     /  October 7, 2018

    “Priest abuse”?
    I thought it was “child abuse”.

    • PartisanZ

       /  October 7, 2018

      It’s like “poverty” Robert … We don’t have poverty here in God’s Own Country, or “family poverty” … We have “child poverty” …

      Takes the heat off reality a bit … Ya know …

      • Gezza

         /  October 7, 2018

        It’s meant to have the opposite effect. Focussing on child povidy is supposed to be the hammer the forces people to realise we have poverty.

  3. Blazer

     /  October 7, 2018

    I heard that Catholic priests were having a day of fasting and prayer to recognize the severity of the abuse.

    That should assuage any victims. 😦

    • robertguyton

       /  October 7, 2018

      And clear any ledger. After that, all good!

    • PartisanZ

       /  October 7, 2018

      Firstly the Churches seem to have some kind of legal ‘immunity’ … which defies the whole separation of Church and State BS … [Church & Lodge still practically run States IMHO, intermingled with Oiligarchy & Corporate-Political elites] … and secondly I guess they’re relying on the faithful masses to apply to Priests the same doctrinal messages as have been indoctrinated into the masses by those Priests for so many generations …

      “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” … ???

      Mass guilt at accusing the abusers … The Church, representatives of God … but heck, they’re only human …

      If they’re only human they should be subject to human Law!

  4. MaureenW

     /  October 7, 2018

    Business as usual for the churches. Given their primary advertised agenda is bullshit, you wonder if covert pedophilia is their main cause. I do.

    • Gezza

       /  October 7, 2018

      Nope – I was brought up as one. Genuine delusion for many; fleecing the flock for the upper heirarchy. Pedos have more luck as scoutmasters. Imo.

      • MaureenW

         /  October 7, 2018

        Brainwashing the flock for the upper hierarchy is more like it. Don’t know I agree with your second statement, easier for victims to blow the whistle on a scoutmaster than a priest.

  5. Zedd

     /  October 7, 2018

    I once saw the prophesy of a ‘List of Popes’ (written by St. Malachy ?) & this one is the LAST on the list; ‘Peter the Roman’

    Can it be the RCC is about to collapse in a heap.. of scandal & ruin ?

    BUT.. this has been going on for centuries.. ‘nothing new to see here’… except the Global media, are now making it so ? :/

    • Zedd

       /  October 7, 2018

      btw: St. Peter (the apostle) was the one who was condemned for denying, he knew Christ; 3 times.. before the cock crowed.
      Francis is now ‘in denial’ ??

      • PartisanZ

         /  October 7, 2018

        I hate to say it but due to the ‘sheepish’ nature of so many millions and perhaps billions of followers, the collapse of the Catholic Church might make way for something even worse …?

        • MaureenW

           /  October 7, 2018

          Worse than thieving pedophiles?

          • PartisanZ

             /  October 7, 2018

            I know … it’s hard to imagine, isn’t it?

        • Zedd

           /  October 7, 2018

          you mean like the ‘AntiChrist’ ?

          News flash: The reformation leaders (eg Luther in 1517) stated the ‘Little Horn, Anti Christ power’ in the books of Daniel/Revelation IS the RCC/papal power, but they have denied or tried to cover it up, ever since. The main problem.. the RCC ‘faithful’ accept what the Priests/Pope tell them, even if it totally contradicts, the Bible ?!

  6. adamsmith1922

     /  October 7, 2018

    The Roman Catholic Church has signally failed to address this issue for many years, I referred to the actions of the Wellington diocese here
    https://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2018/10/05/catholic-hypocrisy/

    And some years ago there was the report on the monstrous goings on in the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland.https://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/catholic-church-immoral/

  7. adamsmith1922

     /  October 7, 2018

    In the light of the day of prayer this cartoon from Rob Rogers is apposite
    https://adamsmith.wordpress.com/2018/09/16/the-holy-pedophiles/