Senate vote 50-48 for Kavanaugh

The US Senate is due to vote on the Brett Kavanaugh nomination for the Supreme Court this morning NZ time.

It looks like being a done deal for Kavanaugh, but that may not be the end of the controversy.

New Zealand has a cl;ear separation between the appointment of judges and politicians, as it should be, so it is strange and alarming to see how political important appointments to the highest judicial position are.

The vote was 51-49

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  1. David

     /  October 7, 2018

    Chairman Grassley, arguably one of the nicest guys in US politics, is on a war path at having his committee hijacked. He wants all communications between Ford and her legal team, he wants her therapy notes, the video of the polygraph and there is a bar investigation of them as well.
    Also in his sights is Fords best mate mate and former FBI agent who contacted her witness and friend Keyser to try and influence her testimony according to committee investigators.
    There is some murkiness from the Dems and the Republicans have had a gutsful of being harassed, shouted at over this appointment.
    The Dems didnt really even try and address his rulings and opinions and when the gang rape allegations etc started falling over they tried to disqualify him because he liked a few beers at school and he seemed a little pissed off at the relentless character attacks on him fueled by the Senators and an unquestioning media.
    CNN referred to him as a rapist 191 times in a week !

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  October 7, 2018

      By the pricking of my thumbs,
      Litigation this way comes.

      If someone is called a rapist and they are not one and never have raped anyone, the people saying that he is should be very worried indeed. Go Directly to Jail, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200.

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  2. That’s 8;30 am NZ time.

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  3. David

     /  October 7, 2018

    Some on the left are reluctantly seeing the downside here.

    “On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher stated that it is worrisome that standards on claims of sexual misconduct seem to have changed from the right position of “listen to any woman who says she’s been wronged,” into “automatically believe.”

    Maher stated, “I do think that when Trump said, ‘It’s a very scary time for young men,’ yes, let’s get out the world’s smallest violin. But…it does seem like things have morphed from, listen to any woman who says she’s been wronged, which is the right thing to do, to automatically believe. That’s what’s scary.”

    Trump hating Morning Joe thinks things have gone too far.

    “Joe Scarborough said he wouldn’t vote for Brett Kavanaugh if he were a senator, but that doesn’t mean he’s happy about how the judge is being treated in the wake of multiple sexual misconduct accusations against him.

    On Wednesday, the “Morning Joe” host slammed the “mainstream media” and accused it of “one-sided” coverage, saying that fair questions about the accuracy of Christine Blasey Ford’s story should be part of the 24/7 news cycle. Scarborough described attending an event in which many participants wanted to know more answers than the media was providing.

    “Quite a few people that we talked to — a lot of them were registered Democrats — raised questions about Dr. Ford’s story. That’s something in 24/7 news coverage, at least in mainstream media … they won’t talk about it.”

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  4. Gerrit

     /  October 7, 2018

    The straw that broke the camels back. Whilst Ford testimony had a balance of probability to the truth in it. Micheal Avenetti can now kiss his Democratic Party presidential nomination good bye with the presentation of the outrages, unsubstantiated and unsupported claims from Julie Swetnick.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-06/michael-avenatti-turns-radioactive-liberals-blame-porn-lawyer-kavanaugh-nomination

    “Some of the allegations levied against Judge Kavanaugh illustrate why the presumption of innocence is so important. I am thinking in particular not of the allegations raised by Professor Ford, but of the allegation that, when he was a teenager, Judge Kavanaugh drugged multiple girls and used their weakened state to facilitate gang rape.

    This outlandish allegation was put forth without any credible supporting evidence and simply parroted public statements of others. That such an allegation can find its way into the Supreme Court confirmation process is a stark reminder about why the presumption of innocence is so ingrained in our American consciousness. -Sen. Susan Collins”

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  October 7, 2018

      I might just about be able to believe that someone was leapt on at a party, but the gang-rape stories are too far-fetched without any sort of evidence.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  October 7, 2018

        I was unimpressed that one of the accusers said that half the people in the room were laughing and looking the other way when Brett Kavanaugh commited ‘sexual violence on (her)’

        Even if he did expose himself, that would not be sexual violence. She is totally diminishing what sexual violence is. Exposing oneself is gross, but ask any rape victim if it’s in the same league as rape and see if they agree.

        Rape Crisis or Rape Prevention in NZ class filming up a skirt as sexual violence. Doing this in the hope of seeing underwear is intrusive and inexcusable, but it is not sexual violence.

        I would hate to see the watering down of what sexual violence is being done to an extent where it becomes trivialised and real victims are put in the same category as those who have an unpleasant and distasteful experience that did not involve rape or other real violence.

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  5. David

     /  October 7, 2018

    The unhinged lefties are screaming blue murder like hysterical banshees in the gallery of the senate, what a disgrace.

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    • There are hints of hysterical one sided bansheeing from you on this.

      I think that no one comes out of this with their reputations untarnished – particular the US democratic/judicial system.

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      • David

         /  October 7, 2018

        I think you will find I dont do hysterical and certainly not bansheeing., not a hint of it.

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        • You have been rampantly one sided.

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          • David

             /  October 7, 2018

            True, but it was an uncorroborated allegation from 36 years ago that was full of holes. I dont dispute something happened to her but there are just way to many holes in her story.
            If the standard is to be we “believe” the woman without question we are on a very slippery slope.

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            • sorethumb

               /  October 7, 2018

              I believe she had a pee that day, ate lunch and brushed her hair.

          • MaureenW

             /  October 7, 2018

            Ignoring the pot/kettle aspect to your comment

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            • Blazer

               /  October 7, 2018

            • Pink David

               /  October 7, 2018

              No one silenced her, she just had very little to say.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  October 7, 2018

              And kept saying and saying and saying it.

              Liars ought to learn restraint. Too much defensive detail is a real giveaway. She is believed by some people, as we know, but how they can delude themselves thus is beyond me.

              Her doors and other things are so easily proved to be lies that it’s bizarre that people believe anything she says.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  October 7, 2018

            Why are banshees being so misrepresented? They are not hysterical, don’t scream for no reason and keen and wail rather than scream to foretell death.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 7, 2018

      Have they started topping themselves yet? I was looking forward to that bit.

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      • Corky

         /  October 7, 2018

        Not far off it, Alan. The emotional screaming was madness personified.

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  6. Gezza

     /  October 7, 2018

    Well, that’s not a surprise. Done & dusted. As expected. Time to move on.

    Next !

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  7. chrism56

     /  October 7, 2018

    Was the vote actually 51-49? I thought Senator Murkowski didn’t vote so Daines could go to his daughter’s wedding.

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  8. Rickmann

     /  October 7, 2018

    “There are hints of hysterical one sided bansheeing from you on this.” How we are “moderated” on this blog. How PC.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  October 7, 2018

      Banshees don’t scream hysterically for no reason; they keen and wail to announce a death.

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  9. The Senate narrowly approved Brett Kavanaugh’s appointment to the Supreme Court on Saturday on a 50-48 vote, but serious questions remain about allegations against him of sexual misconduct and lying under oath. These might lead to his impeachment if Democrats win control of one or both chambers of Congress in the midterm elections.

    At this point, any impeachment effort against Kavanaugh would be premature – and couldn’t realistically begin as long as Democrats are in the minority in the House.

    Instead, a real, in-depth FBI investigation of allegations against Kavanaugh is needed.

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  10. Blazer

     /  October 7, 2018

    a fitting appointment to the farcical circus that the ‘American Dream’ has morphed into.
    Roll on election 2020…with Kanye West,Dennis Rodman and Austin Powers as ..candidates.

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  11. Trevors_elbow

     /  October 7, 2018

    What a political hit job cock up. Dems have a mud pack on… they’ve energized the GOP base for the mid terms.. they’ve demonstrated appalling political management by making sure Ford wasn’t credible enough to stand up until the confirmation hearings ended… nasty smear which has set back rape victims ability to be heard in political tainted cases for a decade…

    And they’ve also made sure Kavanaugh is their enemy till he dies…

    Nasty uni politics smearing on the grown ups stage…

    Idiots

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  12. Zedd

     /  October 7, 2018

    Oh… how surprising.. NOT !

    Now they can shift further to the Alt-Right..
    ‘bye bye Rowe-v-Wade’ (abortion laws) etc. etc. etc.

    How long before the flood gates.. outward.. open ??

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  13. Blazer

     /  October 7, 2018

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    • Pink David

       /  October 7, 2018

      She has her million dollars, I don’t think she has done badly out of it.

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    • Corky

       /  October 7, 2018

      Useful idiot..useful no more. Don’t bother to write, Luv.

      No one does nasty like the Left.

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  14. Rickmann

     /  October 7, 2018

    “Kennedy was the last in a long line of presidents who have been assassinated.” Stick around.

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    • sorethumb

       /  October 7, 2018

      I’m sure people are trying

      According to latest Rasmussen he has a 53% approval rating.

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      • Zedd

         /  October 7, 2018

        would you buy ‘a used car’ from this man ?

        Im guessing AW & Corky might ??

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        • Corky

           /  October 7, 2018

          Paranoia, Zedd. A side effect of the herb.

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          • Zedd

             /  October 7, 2018

            what herbZ ?
            ..havent seen any in several weeks 😦

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            • Corky

               /  October 7, 2018

              Cold Turkey. The craving is unimaginable for a ”straight.”

        • Zedd

           /  October 7, 2018

          I still reckon if you flip that ‘hair’ back there is ‘666’ under there 😦 😀

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          • Corky

             /  October 7, 2018

            No, Zedd. Under his hair is Trumpy’s ”use by date”- 2025 😃😃👍

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 7, 2018

          What does he drive, Zedd? I don’t need bullet proof though.

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          • Zedd

             /  October 7, 2018

            ‘What does he drive, Zedd?’ sez AW

            A mound of B-S sez I

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 7, 2018

              I don’t need that second hand from Trump, Z, when I get it first hand from you.

            • Zedd

               /  October 8, 2018

              touche AW 😀

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  October 7, 2018

      He was the last to be assassinated, I can’t say if he will be the last ever. Nobody can.

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  15. Of course politicians have different standards depending on the circumstances.

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    • Corky

       /  October 7, 2018

      ”Depending on the circumstances.”

      That’s correct, Pete. The evidence against Fraklin was credible.

      Quote:

      ”The reason liberals are stuck on Franken is because there’s a big unanswered question in the #MeToo era: What should happen to powerful men who are publicly and credibly accused of misconduct?”

      https://www.vox.com/2018/5/21/17352230/al-franken-accusations-resignation-democrats-leann-tweeden-kirsten-gillibrand

      Thankyou for alerting me to Stephen King. That prat was a favourite of mine until five minutes ago.

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    • chrism56

       /  October 7, 2018

      Stephen King is rewriting history – maybe he can’t differentiate between his fiction and facts. Among the evidence posted about Mr Franken was a photograph of him fondling a woman’s breasts through her clothes while she was asleep.

      Senator Collins may have called for his resignation, but most of the resign calls came from fellow women Democrat senators.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 7, 2018

      Franken was filmed and apologised:

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  October 7, 2018

        If he really did have his hands there (and the photo looked as if he might have been pretending to be having a feel rather than doing it) she must have been a very heavy sleeper. My impression was that it was meant to be funny but wasn’t. How could someone sleep on air, anyway and not have this noticed ?

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  16. The Consultant

     /  October 7, 2018

    With this out of the way, #MeToo can now find the time to go after Keith Ellison, the former Congressman and current 2iC of the Democrat Party, and Senator Robert Menendez.

    The evidence against them of sexual assault in the case of the former and flying to the Dominican Republic to consort with underage prostitutes, is far more substantial than anything raised against Kavanaugh.

    Any time now.

    Soon……..?

    Crickets.

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