13 October 2018
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Gezza
/ 13th October 2018https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?
HERALD: staff writer
12 Oct 2018
It was a head-scratching afternoon at the White House as rapper Kanye West and so many of his opinions descended on the Oval Office to discuss a range of topics, including North Korea and bipolar disorder, with his “brother” President Trump.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=12141090
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HERALD: Lizzie Marvelly
13 Oct, 2018
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Celebrity political endorsements are becoming increasingly common, and I tentatively welcome such a phenomenon. The louder the conversation around participation in the democratic process, the more normalised voting behaviour becomes.
David
/ 13th October 2018Its been interesting watching the coverage in contrast to the endless line of celebrities going in and out of the Obama White House none of whom were called mental, token negro, minstral show and generally hammered.
JayZ was a regular and the media thought it was cool and if anything Kanye is just a little bit better as a human, just.
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018Which one are you Gezza?
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018😳
Are you on any medication thumbsta?
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Corky
/ 13th October 2018It’s not often President Trumpy is lost for words…unsure of what to do,..and upstaged. He is, and remains, the best entertainment in town.
As for Kanye West… I’m sorry bro…bro Donny wont be able to save you from bros on the street..
Kitty Catkin
/ 13th October 2018Kanye West is an opinionated boor. He doesn’t even have the grace to take off his hat inside.
Remember when he grabbed the mike at (the Emmys?) and ruined someone’s award by ranting on that someone else should have had it?
He’s a rude, conceited egomaniac who’s totally enamoured of the sound of his own voice; or that’s how he comes across.
David
/ 13th October 2018Another Saturday another ra ra piece from Arderns biggest fan Tracy Watkins who as a “hardened” political journalist manages to praise Ardern for using strong language aimed at the fuel companies as if that is something new but fails to point out that once again Ardern misled the public. She quoted figures in her attempt to pin the rise on the fuel companies by using data that conveniently didnt include her latest excise tax rise and when after 4 days someone bothered to do the maths Ardern hid behind using “MBIE figures” but ones that were 2 weeks old.
A pattern of behaviour that she should stop, just front it and claim the tax rise is for projects that she campaigned on.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/107801609/making-government-look-hard
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Didn’t you like this bit at the end?
“It might have been a knee jerk reaction. But there was more than a touch of John Key or Helen Clark about her playing the blame game. No politician ever lost votes putting the boot into petrol companies.
And the Government’s perception problem was only going to get bigger when the Crown accounts were published the next day revealing a $5.5 billion surplus.
With a surplus that big, motorists aren’t interested in hearing all the fiscal ins and outs of why the two – petrol taxes and surpluses – are unrelated. Especially when coupled with the fact that the Government collected a staggering $1.9 billion in fuel excise last year.
But while it was politically expedient for Ardern to talk tough on petrol prices, it also highlights the size of the headache ahead.There is actually nothing desirable about lower petrol prices in terms of this Government’s climate change policies. The opposite is in fact true – that if we want to decrease our reliance on fossil fuels, petrol prices will need to go up – and taxes will be a part of the mix to achieve that.
But Ardern on Monday opted for the political expediency of kicking that can down the road.”
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I realised this morning, with a weeny bit of surprise, that I already actually trust Jacinda Ardern to be telling the truth less than I trusted John Key.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 13th October 2018I trusted Key to actually know what the truth is – unlike Ardern.
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Oh, I think she knows what the truth is.
Alan Wilkinson
/ 13th October 2018Only occasionally.
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018To be fair, she doesn’t have Clint.
Kitty Catkin
/ 13th October 2018Knowing it and telling it are not the same.
David
/ 13th October 2018I think we all had higher expectations of Ardern, she has perfected that disarming earnestness, and if she did what Key did in his first term and just looked down the camera and told the truth she would be fine.
One shouldnt forget she has spent all of her life immersed in the dark arts of political spin.
Patzcuaro
/ 13th October 2018Did someone mention Jason Ede?
David
/ 13th October 2018Dont think so, must have missed his premiership.
duperez
/ 13th October 2018If she did what Key did, just look down the camera and tell the truth she’d be fine. I can imagine her getting away with telling us that GCSB is actually spelled GBSC. 🙃
NOEL
/ 13th October 2018New type of Teflon. For Keys the mantra was be vague. For Arden deflect.
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018Absolutely …
Patzcuaro
/ 13th October 2018Reality
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Only Emmerson could manage to make Princess Eugenie look like the Saudi Foreign Minister.
Patzcuaro
/ 13th October 2018Bare skin
Blazer
/ 13th October 2018Pete George
/ 13th October 2018Corky
/ 13th October 2018”The Donald” went one better than “The Gipper”. Ronald Reagan was only a B-grade movie star, Trump is a billionaire. In his person the broken white American working-class glimpsed the possibility of recovery. Not simply because they judged his promise to run America the way he ran his business empire as unlikely to produce a worse result than the nightmare in which they were currently enmeshed, but because Trump held out the additional promise of telling their supposed “friends” in the Democratic Party, the despised liberal elites: “You’re fired.”
Liberal elites? More like liberals in general. Liberals have little time for their disabled tribal members. They are used as a political meal ticket and not much else.
Jacinda should take this lesson to heart.. her heartland is starting to hurt. Watch out!
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018Remember the stouche over the Otago Settlers Musem. Christchurch now has a new library. The name “Turanga” was “gifted” – nothing to see.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1810/S00290/cultural-treasu
re-unveiled-in-central-otautahi.htm
Nothing to see.
As I have pointed out there were fewer than 500 Maori in Canterbury at Colonization and the city is entirely the results of that colonisation.
Labour has embarked us on the path to “decolonisation” and yet the media looks the other way.
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018It’s good for tourism …
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018How is it good for tourism? Christchurch is not a Maori story?
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018here is the Maori story of Christchurch
https://www.nzonscreen.com/title/landmarks-main-trunkline-1981
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018Aotearoa New Zealand is a bicultural (and multicultural) story … hapu/iwi Maori are one of the two central protagonists in our story …
1981 eh? The very end of the Right Brigade’s magic, delusional era of New Zeal Land homogeneity and an assimilated “one people” … Pakeha …
Wow … and folks here accuse me of wanting to return to the halcyon days of ‘socialism’.
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018If your story is so secure why did Southern & Molyneux create such a stir?
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018Firstly, they didn’t create a stir with me … which, according to Alan’s formula of personal ‘me’ projection onto the whole of society might mean they didn’t create a stir much at all …
What’s happened about the Free Speech Coalition’s court proceedings anyhow?
Secondly, the stir Southern & Molyneux did create was 1) Whipped to a frenzy by the media and 2) mostly among groups of people who are concerned – understandably IMHO – about the ‘fragility’ or resilience of gains in both the legal status and perception-recognition they have won for women, Maori and minorities …
If you’re incapable of even seeing, let alone acknowledging their point-of-view then you won’t see the similarities between their fight and yours …
Corky
/ 13th October 2018Christchurch is not a Maori city apart from a few ferals. Western values should be the taonga on display here. But it’s that colonisation thing. Its so unfashionable.
Ray
/ 13th October 2018Sorry Corky, got to call you on that.
Kāi Tahau are the really big money end of town now
Eat it up honky.
Corky
/ 13th October 2018I’m not too familiar with Christchurch… explain a little more, lickspittle.
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018@Corky – “But it’s that colonisation thing. Its so unfashionable.”
Yeah … Well … a lot of things that are so last millenium are also unfashionable now …
Corky
/ 13th October 2018Does that include Maori violence and the new tribalism called gangs?
Or do we blame that on colonisation as well?
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018So what is decolonisation and who decides? Do people not have a right to feel proud of their heritage?
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/003231870005200114
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018Of course people have a right to feel proud of their heritage … I am immensely proud of my English, Border Scots, Jewish and possibly American heritage …
People also have an obligation to ascertain the facts and, frankly, understand the feelings, of any other peoples they share their heritage with …
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018Exactly but why should the Christchurch Library honour the local iwi over the people who built the city and why should te reo be in large bold letters with translations underneath?
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018A) The library stands on present or former iwi whenua and the library doesn’t honour the iwi “over” the people who built the city … The library honours iwi “along with” those people … as well as … in partnership with … in ongoing relationship with …
B) Why shouldn’t Te Reo be in large bold letters? You can still read the English can’t you?
You can’t accept that in the process of redress there might be a little healthy imbalance, can you? A tiny and mostly symbolic sprinkling of compassionate forbearance … a little extra offer in the negotiations on reconciliation … in which the Crown, at 1 – 13 cents in the dollar value, are getting a mighty good deal on financially …
Your whole Right Brigade ‘tribe’ are incapable of seeing and understanding this simple concept and its associated actions …
Books are written and sold to one another, websites duplicated, frequented and ranted upon, lobby groups like NZCPR get columns in newspapers and fanatical old white men bombard letters-to-the-editor on a weekly basis … producing blizzards of ‘cloned submissions’ to any government department or NGO investigation, panel or legislative initiative which threatens their ‘resistance’ to “a little healthy [and mostly only seeming] imbalance” …
You people defy belief IMHO …
Corky
/ 13th October 2018Seems to me you are have a brainstorm, Parti. Here’s the thing. You will find little on the Marae honouring European culture. Is it too much to ask that the Christchurch rebuild not waste money on Maori culture no one gives a stuff about…not even the tourists, who will get better in other parts of the country?
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018I’ve been on plenty of marae Corky … All of them I can recall where the buildings are built to European specs and regulations, however they may be decorated … where Pakeha-technology framed photographs and pictures of tupuna hang on the walls … where the Whare Kai is full of European furniture, crockery and utensils and te kīhini full of European fixtures and appliances … and where te korero is bilingual … welcoming … and friendly … even in disagreement …
Show me some evidence that no-one gives a stuff about Maori culture … or biculturalism …
I care about it … and I believe that New Zealanders who care about it are now in the majority … possibly a substantial majority …
Corky
/ 13th October 2018No, Parti, you are talking of things..not culture. And, nobody forced these things on Maori. Imagine if a European wanted a say on how a Marae should be constructed?
”Show me some evidence that no-one gives a stuff about Maori culture … or biculturalism …”
I was talking about Maori culture mainly in Christchurch.
But now that you ask
1- Maori TV…few Maori watch. It has a strong European following. Why do you think that is Parti? My guess is it’s quality television that needs an intellect to enjoy. Maoridom is more interested in rap, money and sport.
2- The language…it’s dying..because Maori soon lose interest in learning .
3- Maori in jail.
4- Myself, and a quiet majority up and down the country. Don Brash proved that.
I have repeated this many times. I will do so again:
TAKE THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING OUT OF MAORI INITIATIVES AND MAORI CULTURE IS DEAD OVERNIGHT.
sorethumb
/ 13th October 2018A. The Iwi sold it’s land in 1848. The library has allowed Iwi to dominate by naming art and building design plus te reo dominates English.
B. Not worth the effort.
C.The rest is just blather.
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018Corky, a “quiet majority” is a contradiction in terms. How do we know they’re a majority if they stay quiet?
“TAKE THE GOVERNMENT FUNDING OUT OF MAORI INITIATIVES AND MAORI CULTURE IS DEAD OVERNIGHT.”
No need to shout … eh Gezza?
So … Is that how Maori initiatives got going in the first place, before there was any government funding?
Gezza
/ 13th October 2018Personally I think gangs are an issue, Treaty Settlements are issues, some of the Waitangi Tribunal’s more arguable rulings might be an issue from time to time, the degree to which expectations of Maori on governance over the whole population can realistically met might be an issue (although people who think they’re effectively running things now have lost the plot) and the resurgence of pride in Maori culture and Maori language are not really that big an issue and in very many respects good to see.
PartisanZ
/ 13th October 2018“Whatever the x-factor is that propels politicians like John Key and Jacinda Ardern to the top job, Little did not have it. But, at the same time, I was among many critics who greatly underappreciated Little’s talents as a politician — and, more importantly, his character as a man.
Little’s record in his brief tenure as Minister for Justice and Courts and Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations has been one of frenetic activity and considerable accomplishment.”
‘Why I was wrong about Andrew Little’ – Shane Te Pou – Newsroom
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/10/08/268752/why-i-was-wrong-about-andrew-little