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  1. Gezza

     /  October 13, 2018

    Garner: Why are we so vicious and vile to young Max Key

    It’s not often the phrase poor young Max Key gets thrown around.

    Is it his fault that his father had the drive and ambition to leave behind a tough existence in a state house and want something more for himself and ultimately his family?

    Because I have just had a taste of the turd that gets thrown junior Key’s way. We had him on the AM Show on Friday. Even that in itself got a sigh from some in the room in which it was being discussed the day earlier.
    More…
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107797459/garner-why-are-we-so-vicious-and-vile-to-young-max-key

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    • Corky

       /  October 13, 2018

      ”And still the negative Nellies and Nevilles are out there, with their poison pens, empty lives and toxic tongues. Watch them react to this column.”

      I think we can take a stab at which side of the political divide this filth comes from. No wonder many of our wealthy keep an extremely low profile.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 13, 2018

        It’s bad all right Corks. Neve isn’t even 1 yet and she’s copping stick too.

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        • Corky

           /  October 13, 2018

          How’s that?

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          • Gezza

             /  October 13, 2018

            Turning up at the UN making a racket and showing off. Wheeling herself out when Mum’s got a political problem. Interrupting PM’s Facebook Government announcements…

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 13, 2018

          Penalty to being born to rich pricks, G

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    • Blazer

       /  October 13, 2018

      why is young Max Key so..vicous?

      Well his father was so slick and slippery ,it might be hereditary.

      Gave up on baseball,gave up on becoming the next Justin Bieber.
      Was going to be a forex gambler like dad! ??

      Still courts publicity ,handy for getting laid.

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      • robertguyton

         /  October 13, 2018

        Max doesn’t strike me as being at all wholesome – what was it he said to that cyclist?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  October 13, 2018

          Blazer, you sound very antiSemitic.

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          • robertguyton

             /  October 13, 2018

            There’s NOTHING in what Blazer says that could lead any rational person to conclude what you have, Kitty. You’re seemingly, always on the lookout for anti-Semeticism and determined to find it everywhere .

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  October 13, 2018

              Rubbish, that is a sweeping statement with no foundation at all.Don’t put words in my mouth or attribute views to me that I neither hold nor express. It’s bad manners, if nothing else.

              The remarks are the sort that people make about Jews when they want to be insulting. Slick, slippery and (as Blazer has said often enough) grasping and unscrupulous where money is concerned.

  2. Corky

     /  October 13, 2018

    So sad many brave souls have tried to explain the importance of nutrition for mental and physical well being over the last 80 years. Their rewards have been ridicule and ignominy.

    Only in the last 15 years has the medical fraternity really woken up to the importance of nutrition and health. Unfortunately, for some of theses doctors, it’s only about an opportunity to make a quick buck and has little to do with helping mankind.

    I have an acquaintance who works in a hospital mental ward. When I asked him if patients received nutritional support, he said they received hospital food like everyone else. Just because they are mentally ill doesn’t mean they need anything special, he added.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifestyle/2018/10/from-what-you-re-eating-to-how-you-re-feeling-the-role-nutrition-plays-in-our-mental-health.html

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  October 13, 2018

      I think that people have been aware of the connection between food and health for rather longer than FIFTEEN YEARS. Or even 80 years. It’s in the Bible, forsooth.

      It was discovered in the 18th century that limes and such things prevented scurvy in sailors.

      Unless doctors have shares in supermarkets or places that produce food, it’s hard to see how they are making money from this. .

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  3. Ray

     /  October 13, 2018

    Interesting program on RNZ National on food forest similar to Robert’s concept in Riverton but in a warm climate. It has a fantastic range of fruits!
    Now I understand why Robert supports the Greens flying around the world to attend conferences on climate change and their hypocrisy about burning up fuel.
    A two degree increase would give him a garden full of bananas, pineapples, oranges and coffee, sure beats apples eh!

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    • Corky

       /  October 13, 2018

      Good old, Rob. He may be a closet Rightie who needs to ”come out.” Where better then on this blog.😃

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    • robertguyton

       /  October 13, 2018

      I missed it, Ray! I heard it advertised earlier in the night, but got distracted at the critical moment. I wonder if I can get it “on demand”? In any case, I prefer apples to pineapples (pineapple cider? Is that even possible?). Coffee’s too much of a challenge to grow in useful amounts in NZ, but tea, Camelia sinensis, is the way I’m leaning. It grows well here in Riverton. 2 degrees though! That’s not going to be useful. Vegetation may like CO2, as Corky has proven to himself, but getting blown out of the soil or desiccated to a crisp is not something plants enjoy (I’ve proven to myself). Corky, in preparation for your suggested “coming out” can you help me by explaining what a “Righties” is? That way I’ll know if I am (a closet) one. Cheers.

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  4. Gezza

     /  October 13, 2018

    Gangs rule the roost and we’re only helping them
    The motorbike pulled up next to me at the lights. It was shining in the sun, the chrome awash with reflections of the street, the sky and the cars around it filled with men staring with lust in their eyes at the mechanical monster burbling away beside us.

    It had sensual curves and tires wider than my car. This wasn’t just a motorbike. This was automotive art and we all knew it. It was part mid-life crisis on wheels and in part a metaphor for sexuality and freedom. It personified the dreams of middle class 40-hour-a-week working men who want to be the rebel – just for one day. The admiring looks from others parked at the lights revealed their unspoken longing; they too wished they had the cash to buy the gorgeous creation god would ride if he had leathers.

    As it took off from the lights leaving us all behind, we all sat there for a second watching it depart, the smoke and the sound and the flying hair filled us with thoughts of Jack Kerouac styled freedom on lost highways until we noticed the Nazi-styled helmet and gang patch riding on it.
    . . .
    As he rode away with the smoke hanging in the air I wondered how he could afford it. I would never own that bike. I wanted to know how he could?The answer is obvious. We paid for it. It’s proceeds from drug crime. I later wondered why every patched member riding a Harley isn’t stopped by cops and asked to provide evidence detailing where the money came from to buy it?

    So far this year, around $14m has been recovered Under the Criminal Proceeds Recovery Act. I figured there was a bunch more the cops could have snared riding up Victoria St in a haze of smoke and noise that morning.

    There’s a harsh reality to face in Godzone. The patched elephant in the room, in the city, in the country, in parliament, in council chambers and on our streets is gangs rule. Prime Minister Ardern may think she runs the country. She doesn’t, gangs do.

    The cops and politicians are out muscled, out staffed, out thought, out organised and out gunned. Gangs rule New Zealand. They know it and we don’t want to admit it. The greatest threat to New Zealand’s welfare and well-being isn’t climate change, it’s gangs.
    More…
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/107775142/gangs-rule-the-roost-and-were-only-helping-them

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    • Corky

       /  October 13, 2018

      Michael Laws provided Aotearoa with the solution.. class gangs as domestic terrorists then exterminate them. Simple. What isn’t simple is electing a political Hitler with a ”Night Of The Long Knives” mentality. I don’t think we have one.

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    • Blazer

       /  October 13, 2018

      As his Bentley drove away I wondered how he could afford it. I would never own that car. I wanted to know how he could?The answer is obvious. We paid for it. It’s proceeds from white collar crime. I later wondered why every suited individual driving a $300,000 plus vehicle isn’t stopped by cops and asked to provide evidence detailing where the money came from to buy it?

      ‘Figures released under the Official Information Act show that as at July 28, there were 888 files where a possible fraud or deception offence had been committed, but was yet to be assigned for investigation.

      One business owner who detected an alleged theft by an employee was told by police they did not have resources to initiate a prosecution.’-(Stuff)

      There’s a harsh reality to face in Godzone. The elephant in the room, in the city, in the country, in parliament, in council chambers and on our streets is chicanery rules. Prime Minister Ardern may think she runs the country. She doesn’t, the financiers do.

      The cops and politicians are out muscled, out staffed, out thought, out organised and out gunned. Banksters rule New Zealand. They know it and we don’t want to admit it. The greatest threat to New Zealand’s welfare and well-being isn’t climate change, it’s …private Banks.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 13, 2018

        We’re screwed. :/

        We’re stuck in the bloody middle and bastards are ripping us off at both ends of the bloody market. 😡

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        • PartisanZ

           /  October 13, 2018

          @Gezza – “We’re stuck in the bloody middle and bastards are ripping us off at both ends of the bloody market.”

          Yep … and to prevent them doing so all we have to do is reset, renew and/or remake so-called ‘democracy’ …

          Hard yakka but someone’s gotta do it …

          Useful suggestions can be found in the book ‘Towards Democratic Renewal’ by Sir Geoffrey Palmer & Andrew Butler (Victoria University Press 2018) or at –

          http://constitutionaotearoa.org.nz/

          And even more useful suggestions by Matike Mai Aotearoa can be found here –

          http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/iwi.htm

          Deadline = 2040 … We missed one in 1990 …

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      • Corky

         /  October 13, 2018

        Blazer roused from his reverie. His psychologist looked concerned…” son, that type of misunderstanding about how the world works is hard to cure. It stems from your childhood
        watching young Billy Bunter in his pedal car. That did irreparable damage to your psyche. ”

        ”Your condition was further skewered by teachers and university professors who taught you a blame mentality. That lead to menial jobs, union membership and an envy psychosis”

        The psychologist sighed…” Blazer, you have been in therapy for ten years. We can’t make progress until you face your demons and accept we are the creators of our own life experiences.”

        ”That will be $200 plus gst. Please pay on your way out,” the psychologist said as he looked admiringly through the window at his shiny new Porsche 911 parked next to his wife’s AMG Mercedes.

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        • Blazer

           /  October 13, 2018

          its not a ‘blame mentality’..its understanding how things really work beneath the smokescreens of equality,liberty and fraternity.

          You’ve been drowning in Kool Aid all your life …either that or you’ve been drenched so often you’ve accepted sheep status and run towards the..shearing shed because thats the flockin way of the..world.

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          • Pickled Possum

             /  October 13, 2018

            Nice! One! … blaza

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            • Corky

               /  October 13, 2018

              Hey, Cuz..what’s cookin in the pseudo Maori world of yours?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  October 13, 2018

              Hey, Cork…when are you going to stop trolling Possum and calling her a liar?

            • Pickled Possum

               /  October 13, 2018

              Oh .. corkey … your coming un-screwed if you think
              I would in any lifetime own up to being your ‘cuz’.

              My Te Ao Maori is nothing like what you apparently despise in your world.
              I don’t need your warped approval for my Maori world.
              I know when I wait at the gateway of my marae and the kai karanga sings her chants The pull of my tipuna is enuff to humble me and to feel safe and in awe of the wairuatanga surrounding me. The karanga whaikorero waiata mihi hongi hakari and cuppa tea cross all boundaries and in an instant, I am at home, safe. Nothing sue-do bout that corky.

            • Corky

               /  October 14, 2018

              ”Oh .. Corkey … your coming un-screwed if you think
              I would in any lifetime own up to being your ‘cuz’.”

              Chur.. the.thing is, I don’t want to be your cuz..and obviously vice versa.
              It’s was a greeting. Today, in town, I have been called bro, doy and ”my cuzzie.”

              I don’t want to be these peoples cuzzies, nor they, mine.

              Just thought I would mention that. Ps..don’t listen to Kitty. She likes being teachers pet.

              I’m sure we can talk cuzzie to cuzzie…?

  5. PartisanZ

     /  October 13, 2018

    Jeeez, there’s nothing in the Herald worth commenting on …

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  6. chrism56

     /  October 13, 2018

    Note how the latest Climate Change “we are doomed, I tell you doomed” report and prediction has been and gone, un-noticed by everyone except the chattering classes in Wellington. Could it be because we have seen it all before?
    https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2018/10/12/climate-tipping-points-quiz/

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  7. Blazer

     /  October 13, 2018

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  8. sorethumb

     /  October 13, 2018

    better than the movie

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  9. PartisanZ

     /  October 13, 2018

    Looking forward to reading the rest of this –

    ” … “globalization‟, the current expression for the making of world society, primarily by means of finance, information technology and transport. The idea of “public goods‟ has been in retreat recently; yet concern for the planet‟s well-being brings them sharply into focus at the global level …

    World governance is strikingly defective, but we next examine the record of the “international organizations”, especially those like the IMF, World Bank and WTO who claim responsibility for managing the world economy. This world is desperately unequal and “development” has been the name for evolving relations between rich and poor countries.

    The picture is not pretty, especially over the last three decades. A remarkably successful network of social movements has arisen to challenge the prevailing global (dis-)order. This now goes by the name of “alter-globalization”, not against one world but for a different way of organizing it.”

    Keith Hart – ‘Building the Human Economy’ …

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