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15 October 2018

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  1. chrism56

     /  October 15, 2018

    Here Robert, this is your big chance. Tell us what extreme weather events have been solely caused by climate change. Provide evidence in the form of scientific paper, not a press statement or newspaper article. Alternatively, give us the scientific name of a species that has been made extinct by climate change – not deforestation or hunting or another reason.
    Otherwise it will confirm that the alarmist activists are very long in emotions and short on facts.

    • “Tell us what extreme weather events have been solely caused by climate change.”

      Obviously none.

      Can you say which extreme weather events haven’t been affected or accentuated by climate change?

      • robertguyton

         /  October 15, 2018

        Thanks, Pete, well said. Chrism56’s “prove it” is the same foolish argument used by the tobacco industry to delay, delay, delay action on curtailing the use of carcinogenic tobacco; “Show us one person who died solely as a result of smoking our product!!” they ranted, smugly, as chrism56 is doing now. The tactic was discredited way back then, but taken up again by the climate-deniers as if it was the ace-card in the argument. It’s not. It’s meaningless.

  2. Gezza

     /  October 15, 2018

    ADHD overdiagnosis in younger students, says global study

    Researchers are warning teachers and clinicians are mistaking immaturity in the classroom for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder or ADHD.

    A global study shows the youngest children in a classroom are often compared with their older and more mature classmates and that is leading to overdiagnosis in the younger students.

    The lead author of the study worries that an ADHD misdiagnosis can blind clinicians to other roots causes of problems.

    • Corky

       /  October 15, 2018

      Agreed.

      1- ADHD over diagnosed.
      2- Discipline underutilised .

      Result: an unteachable environment in many classrooms.

      • PartisanZ

         /  October 15, 2018

        And still no-one asks the question: Maybe a significant majority of kids – representing the younger generation – especially in the West, have simply outgrown the traditional model of ‘school’?

        Children’s normal, natural exuberance and their desire to explore, play and learn for themselves is incompatible with ‘factory’ industrial-model classrooms … exacerbated by fast & junk food … and must be diagnosed as a psychological health issue and medicated …

        The energy of children must be subdued …

        • Gezza

           /  October 15, 2018

          Horses for courses maybe. Running an education system that caters for those who can’t learn in that environment like you means trying to figure out how to fund one to cover both those who can and those who can’t.

  3. robertguyton

     /  October 15, 2018

    Negative 25% – is it even possible to score worse than that???
    Poor Simon!

    “Garner told viewers and listeners on Monday morning internal polling by the party has Mr Bridges’ favourability rating at negative 25 percent.”

  4. Corky

     /  October 15, 2018

    This is weird. I can tell you one thing having had a coach who had us walk on all fours for increments of 100 meters, that these people will have a superior cardiovascular output to ordinary folk.

    • Blazer

       /  October 15, 2018

      … have you relearned how to walk upright yet Corky…I guess you have quite badly grazed…knuckles.Bol…

      • Corky

         /  October 15, 2018

        Such a prattish response considering your knuckle dragging comrades are taxing our country down the gurgler.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  October 15, 2018

          By meters, I suppose you mean parking meters; that is a long walk. Even 100 metres would be.

          I wonder what the people in the street thought of the people walking from meter to meter on all fours 😀

  5. lurcher1948

     /  October 15, 2018

    National party +Simon Bridges + the exclusive brethrens money a partnership made in hell, what do they want for their money, right our souls

  6. robertguyton

     /  October 15, 2018

    “The $10,000 donation came from ‘Cathedral Club’. Mr Bridges refused to talk about who that was. According to blog posts by National-aligned pollster David Farrar and far-right blogger Cameron Slater, Cathedral Club appears to be bimonthly dinner featuring speakers from the political world. Both men imply attendees aren’t meant to reveal the details of conversations that take place at such meetings.

    And the Exclusive Brethren has reappeared as a funder and supporter of National. Again from Newshub:

    The larger donation came from Cubro Ltd, which Mr Bridges said was a healthcare business in Tauranga. Garner revealed the owners are also members of the Exclusive Brethren, a religious sect who controversially spent more than $1 million of their own money trying to get National elected in 2005. Nicky Hager’s book The Hollow Men detailed how the National Party worked with the Brethren behind the scenes, while publicly denying it.

    Mr Bridges said he didn’t know the company had Brethren links, even though he’s been to the company’s premises.”

    Goodness me!!!

    • PartisanZ

       /  October 15, 2018

      I wonder if the Exclusive Brethren are a satellite of ‘The Lodge’ … or are they the Lodge’s ‘Inner Sanctum’ …?

      Regardless, by comparison, it’s a terrible, terrible thing that Labour get some of their funding from organised labour Unions … ordinary workers … Or The Greens from ‘grass roots’ environmental organisations …

  7. lurcher1948

     /  October 15, 2018

    The cathedral club and the National party,dirty deeds done dirt cheap for a donation to the National coffers

    • Corky

       /  October 15, 2018

      Those coffers will overflow with spoils for fighting the barbarians at the next election, Lurchy.
      Truckies protesting today. This government is a bad new government – ripe for the opposition benches ( if they are lucky) come 2020.😃

      • Blazer

         /  October 15, 2018

        Heard the truckie leading the protest on radio….meathead would describe him…couldn’t pinpoint why or who he was protesting against.

        • robertguyton

           /  October 15, 2018

          Did he say,
          “Yeah, breaker one-nine, this here’s the Rubber Duck”?

        • Corky

           /  October 15, 2018

          Breaker one,Breaker one,this here is the Rubber Duck. We got no money, got no hope..so we’s a headin for Beehive Town or broke. Boys, we got us a CONVOY!!!

          • Blazer

             /  October 15, 2018

            message for meatheads disrupting hardworking Kiwis on their commute to work to earn money to pay the banks…

            ‘Light petrol and diesel vehicles are paying far more than their share of transport taxes, says the car review website dogandlemon.com.

            Editor Clive Matthew-Wilson says:

            “Taxes on small vehicles pay nearly three quarters of the cost of building our highways. Yet these small vehicles get the least benefit from these highways. Effectively, the owners of petrol cars and light commercial vehicles are subsidising large trucks and buses.”

            “About two thirds of the cost of building new highways goes to making them strong enough for large vehicles, which are mainly trucks. Excluding events such as storm damage, about 80% of all road maintenance costs are the result of the damage caused by trucks.”

            “Yet, the trucking industry pays just 23% of the costs of building and maintaining these highways.”

            “At a time when higher petrol prices are making life tough for owners of smaller vehicles, surely it’s time the trucking industry paid its fair share of the costs of building and maintaining our roads.”

            Matthew-Wilson claims that ratepayers are also being ripped off.

            “Many ratepayers are unaware that their rates cover 44% of the costs of local roads. By comparison, heavy vehicles such as trucks pay just 25% of the costs of building and maintaining these roads.”

            • Corky

               /  October 15, 2018

              Clive Matthew-Wilson? They need Alan Dick. What are the road user charges trucks pay? That isn’t named or quantified.

  8. lurcher1948

     /  October 15, 2018

    Had to smile,nearly wiped out by a firms van with”its not worth the risk”screen printed over the whole back in the pouring rain

  9. David

     /  October 15, 2018

    Monday morning and another inquiry launched amid hyperbole from the Minister about near end of world problems at the NZTA. The problems appear quite minor when you get further into the article and it also notes that there have been no adverse outcomes but Labour never miss an opportunity to shell out great dollops of taxpayers cash to another law/accountancy/consulting firm.
    One has to ask what the overpaid CEO and the well funded board are doing and why the highly paid minister cant find solutions despite finding loads of problems.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107841686/transport-minister-phil-twyford-says-nzta-did-not-properly-regulate-heavy-vehicles

    • PartisanZ

       /  October 15, 2018

      Gosh David, as a Rightie I thought you would recognise a clandestine, politically motivated Chess-move quite easily? National and the Right are past masters at it …

      Labour-led are trying to get to the bottom of National’s political interference in the supposedly impartial NZTA … to answer questions like: How did NZTA come to endorse some aspects of Roads of ‘National’ Significance like four lanes to Whangarei? [When it doesn’t make any sense except as an election bribe] …

      They’ll probably find an Exclusive Brethren spanner in the works!

      • David

         /  October 15, 2018

        I think you kinda missed what the inquiry is about, didnt bother reading what it was about or perhaps there are other cognitive struggles. Nothing to do with roads at all and the RONS was specifically done outside of the usual NZTA process, called political leadership or governing or some such thing that we used to have.
        To my point that we have a well remunerated CEO and professional board and a Minister who has identified issues that concern him immeasurably why would they need to have an outside inquiry to tell them how to do the job they are being paid to do.

        • Blazer

           /  October 15, 2018

          can pose the same question wherever ‘consultants’ are used….’lend me your watch…so I CAN TELL YOU THE…TIME’!

  10. Kitty Catkin

     /  October 15, 2018

    Some fool in Hamilton arranged via Tinder to meet a woman at 11.15 one night for a bit of how’s your father and was robbed of his car.

    It’s hard to have much sympathy for anyone who’d be that stupid.