Jami-Lee Ross apologises for affairs, makes more threats, doesn’t resign

It’s sad but unsurprising to see more chaos from disgraced MP Jami-Lee Ross – he has decided not to resign from Parliament, saying he wants to stay and dish out dirt. He has admitted having two affairs, including one with an MP, and has apologised to the four women detailed in the Newsroom article yesterday, and to his wife.

NZH:  Jami-Lee Ross admits to affairs with two women, vows to stay in Parliament

Rogue National MP Jami-Lee Ross has admitted to having affairs with two women – one of them an MP – and says there will be “challenging times ahead” in his marriage.

On the day he was expecting to stand down from his Botany seat, the MP is also now vowing to stay in Parliament and dish the dirt from under the political bed-sheets.

Ross also responded to allegations from four women of intimidating and bullying behaviour, disputing the way the allegations were presented but apologising for the “hurt” he has caused the women.

Referring to being accused of inappropriate behaviour from a married MP and the revelations of the affairs, he said: “A scab has been picked on the parliamentary personal issues. It has long been a case where personal matters are kept private, but the rules of the game have changed.

“There’s a lot of bed-hopping that goes on down in that Parliament. There’s a lot of behaviour that a lot of people would want kept secret and has been kept secret until now. But the way in which we now play politics is that we lift the bed-sheets.”

He said he had a “long-term” relationship with an MP, who the Herald has chosen not to name, as well as a brief relationship with a former employee.

“The National Party has now decided to smear my reputation as much as possible. I simply can’t run in a byelection on that basis. I’ve decided it’s more important to continue talking about the National Party.”

Ross must have woken up to the reality that he has no show of winning a by-election, and has decided to stay in Parliament. I have no idea how he thinks that might work. He won’t be trusted by any other MP, and may trouble getting staff. And he may have trouble being an effective electorate MP.

And if he follows through on his threat to dish out dirt things will get more difficult for him, How he thinks this might help him repair his marriage I have no idea.

Ross has acted disgracefully, and seems intent on continuing to act disgracefully.

Some may say this is ‘going full retard’, but I’m not sure about that, it’;s hard to predict how low and dirty Ross might go.

 

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  1. Tipene

     /  October 19, 2018

    It’s all on now.

    Ross is staying, and is likely to (again) return serve.

    Friday 19/10/18 may need it’s own title “Confession Day”, as probably dozens of MP’s, staff, and journalists heed the odds, head home, and disclose their (likeley multiple) infidelities to their wives, husbands, and partners.

    And to anyone who says “what they do in their private time has nothing to do with their professional performance”, I would say “their private behavior is a reflection of their professional performance”.

    Kudos to Ross for fronting up, not only for his infidelity, but by exposing what happens in the dark room of the whips office, and how leaders of political parties delegate the dark arts, whilst remaining clean.

    We often climb into Slater about how he operates, but he was bang on regarding this issue.

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    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2018

      Lifting the lid on the sex lives of those in parliament will affect all parties and all the people that work there – you are right, many people are now going to be worried about being outed.

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    • I’m not sure how right Slater has been. I suppose he said that Ross might go into hard out destruction mode trying to drag as many as he can down with him. That is unlikely to work out well for him.

      It sounds like Ross has conceded that the four women who featured in the Newsroom article were largely right.

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      • PDB

         /  October 19, 2018

        Slater has a direct line to Lusk and hence Ross – how could he not be right?

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      • Tipene

         /  October 19, 2018

        I’m referring to Slater making numerous claims over the years about how National leadership have dealt to him post-2014.

        Ross’s interview with HDPA confirms not only does it happen -but Ross was one of the hit-men on Barclay:

        https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/exclusive-jami-lee-ross-admits-to-affairs-with-two-women-vows-to-stay-in-parliament/

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  October 19, 2018

          The problem is Ross is a fantastist. He releases texts and tapes that say almost the exact opposite of what he is alleging and then doubles down swearing black is white.

          He was the one who brought up the allegations against him and swore he had done nothing wrong, then when a year long investigation by Newsroom was published blamed Nats dirty politics.

          He completely avoided the question from HDPA about whether there were 15 women.

          He has been a complete damp squib and his only hit in Bridges has been the unrelated comments about Pugh and ethnic list members.

          He is on very thin ice as to whether he can stay in parliament under the new Waka jumping rules.

          He should be turfed and had into oblivion.

          As for Skater he’s right about the bleeding obvious but has also been parroting the entirely incorrect assertions about what constitutes electoral donation fraud.

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    • Sunny

       /  October 19, 2018

      Ross’s affairs were bought into the public domain by Ross. The management had spoken to him privately. It was Ross who fronted that there had been 4 sexual harrasment claims against him but National wouldn’t say who. Bennet corrected and said actually it wasn’t harassment it was an issue of conduct for a married man. (which was an important distinction to make)

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      • Tipene

         /  October 19, 2018

        Yes it is an important distinction, just as “courting behaviour” is not “sexual harassment” is an important distinction.

        Which is probably why men are now showing up to first dates with consent apps on their phones.

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  2. Blazer

     /  October 19, 2018

    Ross said he changed his mind about resigning after the overwhelming support ,urging him…to stay..on.

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    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2018

      Did whaleoil start a petition?

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    • Loki

       /  October 19, 2018

      The overwhelming support will have been his bank and credit card company calling with a please explain.
      😄

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    • Tipene

       /  October 19, 2018

      If a man has admitted to infidelity, and has kids, then as part of the reconciliation and restoration process, it’s probably the decent thing to do to retain ones employment.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 19, 2018

        Given what we’ve seen of the personality & ethics of this particular lothario it’s probably the most sensible thing for the Mrs to do until she’s got the all the assets established.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  October 19, 2018

        He’s been rooting his way around his workplace and you think the best thing for his marriage is to insist on staying on in the same place?

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        • Tipene

           /  October 20, 2018

          Given his exposure in said workplace, and that all eyes will now be on him – yes.

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  3. Loki

     /  October 19, 2018

    Didn’t resign.
    Shocked?
    No, I’m not either.
    What a scumbag. Liar, blackmailer, rooter, Cheater.
    Unemployable, will probably have to flee to Fiji with Slater.

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    • Tipene

       /  October 19, 2018

      And who else is going to be added to this list, as Ross starts naming other “sheet lifters” over the next few days and weeks?

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      • PDB

         /  October 19, 2018

        The MSM (at least those not involved in any sexual goings on) will lap all this gossip up whilst at the same time talk about how awful and unseemly it all is.

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        • Tipene

           /  October 19, 2018

          Yes, until Ross starts naming journalists.

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          • Gezza

             /  October 19, 2018

            Well it’s certainly going to be interesting to see who he names for what and what the impact will be. So far he’s been doing as much or more damage to himself as anyone else.

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      • Sean

         /  October 19, 2018

        The premise of MAD (mutually-assured destruction) ensured neither party threw too many rocks at each other regarding infidelity. With a rogue member inside the party, with nothing to lose, then all bets are off. Perhaps the Nats and JLR can come to some sort of agreement where the party doesnt invoke Waka-Jumping Act and lets JLR keep a salary for the rest of the term, and in return he doesn’t throw a heap of his colleagues into the divorce lawyers’s laps. Because of the top of my head, there is
        # One former senior Cabinet Minister who had an affair with a press sec while they were in opposition
        # Two former Cabinet Ministers who were told by Eagleson to “Cut that shit out and think of their families (One Nth Island, 1 Sth Island)
        # A former Minister who used to go to the US every summer break to deal with his true sexuality
        # A former leader who left his underwear in a bar in Queenstown after a very wild night.
        # A former Cabinet Minister who has recovered from a small meth problem.
        # A former Cabinet Minister who hit one of their staffers after being confronted about having an affair with a much younger backbencher.

        And as a former black-bag operator and then Senior Whip, he would have become aware of a lot more indiscretions and issues surrounding his colleagues. If he let it be known that he was going to throw some of these things out into the public arena, then the stress inside caucus could cause the caucus to implode.

        For the sake of balance, its not as if the current Govt is any better. There’s already two marriages that have ended.

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        • Blazer

           /  October 20, 2018

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 20, 2018

          The public don’t care about affairs so long as they do their jobs properly. Publicity only hurts their families. Media need to respect that.

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  4. Blazer

     /  October 19, 2018

    Ross radiating like kryptonite…how can National pay him off?

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    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2018

      Ross has admitted all and now has nothing left to lose in taking as many people down with him.

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  5. Something Ross has in common with Slater – being an arsehole and then blaming everyone else when chickens start coming home to roost.

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  6. PDB

     /  October 19, 2018

    No doubt not naming the female MP he had an affair with will mean social media will be full of suggestions and not-guilty female MP’s will all be put under a cloud of suspicion.

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  7. artcroft

     /  October 19, 2018

    Well the Tooth Fairy has a very good chance of being in the job now for five more years. Simon is going to have to resign to close this issue. Judith… could it be your moment?

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    • PDB

       /  October 19, 2018

      Lusk (and in effect Slater his good mate) appear to be using/manipulating JLR for that very purpose.

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      • Tipene

         /  October 19, 2018

        Martin Bradbury didn’t use the term “political sadists” lightly, when describing the dirty politics brigade.

        I suppose that they have reconciled themselves to taking the occasional hit themselves.

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        • artcroft

           /  October 19, 2018

          I think this ends with JLR being found in his car, locked in his garage with the door down.

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          • artcroft

             /  October 19, 2018

            and the engine running.

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          • Tipene

             /  October 19, 2018

            I would certainly hope not.

            Around 70% of relationships in which an affair is discovered can be reconciled if both parties are willing to do so.

            Ross needs his friends / family/mates around him and his family now – not his politicos, but people who actually give a shit about him, Lucy, and their kids.

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            • artcroft

               /  October 19, 2018

              Ross has gone from being, in his mind, a master of the universe, to being a nothing with no future. When this sinks in …

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 19, 2018

              Rooter Ross has likely lost both friends and family leaving him the helpless jihadi tool of Loopy Lusk.

              There is only one way that ends unless he has a Damascus moment of epic proportions.

            • Gezza

               /  October 19, 2018

              Ross needs his friends / family/mates around him and his family now – not his politicos, but people who actually give a shit about him, Lucy, and their kids.

              By the sound of what he said to HDPA shit is probably what Lucy’s given him.

  8. Alan Wilkinson

     /  October 19, 2018

    The evil sod and complete prick continues to demonstrate his qualities. Seems to think he is being persecuted for having affairs rather than for treating women like the manipulative, abusive prick with zero integrity that he is.

    Seems to be a one man justification for the waka jumping law.

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    • Tipene

       /  October 19, 2018

      The women were not wall-flowers, and let’s not insult their intelligence (one was an MP, FFS).

      They consented.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  October 19, 2018

        Consented to sex, not to the abuse.

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        • Tipene

           /  October 19, 2018

          Allegations of abuse – let’s not go #metoo on this.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  October 19, 2018

            Since he has proved himself to be a treacherous, scheming, ruthless, selfish liar he starts well behind in the credibility stakes.

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            • Tipene

               /  October 19, 2018

              Lack of credibility isn’t evidence.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 19, 2018

              No, but it weights the evidence it is applied to.

            • Tipene

               /  October 19, 2018

              Let’s be seeing some of the evidence then, otherwise we are just back into “she said he did it, so therefore it must be so”, also now known as ‘MacGregorising”.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 19, 2018

              Some of the allegations had witnesses as I recall and some he admitted and apologized for.

            • Gezza

               /  October 19, 2018

              Lack of credibility isn’t evidence.
              As HDPA pointed out ever so sensitively to him in her interview, lack of evidence is what’s causing his lack of credibility.

  9. artcroft

     /  October 19, 2018

    Will he bother to turn up at parliament in future? Botany will hate him if he backs labour. National will hate him full stop. His bank will hate him if they realise he can’t pay the mortgage. His wife will hate him, if not now, then when the mortgage falls due. If he wrecks the marriage of this Nat MP everyone will loathe him.
    If he doesn’t head to parliament regularly National could then be forgiven for using the sack an MP act. Thanks Winston. National will even send Winnie a big bottle of bubbly.

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    • Tipene

       /  October 19, 2018

      1/ Most likely he will – who would waste the opportunity of Parliamentary privilege?
      2/ I can see Ross voting by conscience vote, issue by issue.
      3/ He won’t care if National hate him
      4/ One would hope that after 16 years of being a public servant of a decent salary, he would be mortgage free.
      5/ It’s probably going to be pretty frosty for a while -but frost thaws
      6/ There are probably dozens of relationships about to be exposed – if Ross is responsible for his behaviour, then so is the female MP, and anyone else who gets bathed in sunlight.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  October 19, 2018

        I’m not aware any females involved have been accused of abuse?

        Trying to conflate apples with oranges there, Tipene.

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      • PDB

         /  October 19, 2018

        Tipene: “One would hope that after 16 years of being a public servant of a decent salary, he would be mortgage free.”

        Story being put about is that he needs cash as he upgraded his house/ upped his mortgage/took on debt in expectation of Bridges giving him a bigger role and more money. This whole issue is apparently about JLR feeling he didn’t get the job/ money he expected for helping Bridges succeed in his leadership bid. Hence when he realised that he had no hope of winning a by-election in Botany & with his reputation trashed he is now hanging around for the money & utu on a National party he probably thought would rally around him and turf Bridges.

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    • artcroft

       /  October 19, 2018

      Who’ll be the first writer to launch a book about this disaster. Ian Wishart?

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      • PDB

         /  October 19, 2018

        Depends if someone can steal some emails from somewhere and therefore the author can only be one man.

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      • Tipene

         /  October 19, 2018

        Nicky Hagar will already be at his desk.

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      • Corky

         /  October 19, 2018

        I hope it’s Wishart, Arty. Any Tory wanting to shoot his magazine off would, I assume, be more predisposed to Wishart. Besides Hagar is busy accusing the army of killing civilians.

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    • artcroft

       /  October 19, 2018

      1/ Most likely he will – who would waste the opportunity of Parliamentary privilege? The sane.
      2/ I can see Ross voting by conscience vote, issue by issue. “Who do i hate the most”
      4/ One would hope that after 16 years of being a public servant of a decent salary, he would be mortgage free. “Hard to free hold a $2.5m life style block in 16 years.
      5/ It’s probably going to be pretty frosty for a while -but frost thaws – Not on Mars.
      6/ There are probably dozens of relationships about to be exposed – if Ross is responsible for his behaviour, then so is the female MP, and anyone else who gets bathed in sunlight. Yeah she must have seen this coming. Everyone else did.

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  10. PDB

     /  October 19, 2018

    As I mentioned in today’s ‘media watch’ there appears to be a small sniff of evidence pointing to Lusk being involved with Winston and other NZL First MP’s both in the election campaign and since – if true some of the utu being dished out to Bridges/ National could also well be from Peters who has never forgiven Bridges for downtrouing him in the Tauranga electorate.

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  11. Corky

     /  October 19, 2018

    So, given all this fine Tory angst, will the comrades in Labour reconsider their option of introducing new taxes and legislation after the next election? If they have learn’t from their rise to power they must know National is one new leader away from RIGHTING itself. The temptation to go early with legislative changes must be tempting.

    Both TV channels have been polling during the last week. Interesting results await.

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  12. duperez

     /  October 19, 2018

    What a page!
    Life was so much simpler in the days we didn’t have blackmailing, rooting, cheating, evil sod, complete prick, zero integrity, treacherous, scheming, ruthless, selfish lying politicians.

    It was so good when our politicians merely appeared on tv giving totally incorrect accounts of what they’d say and done. When one of them made the Honours list even after a Judge spoke of him deliberately bullshitting in court, I was so happy. I could see why he has the title “the Honourable.” Those were the days of real integrity.🙃

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    • Corky

       /  October 19, 2018

      The cruel rocks of reality are unforgiving, Duperez. I to prefer the fantasy of integrity.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  October 19, 2018

      When was that? Not in my lifetime.Not in anyone’s lifetime. Not in recorded history…..but
      I believe that most NZ politicians are decent people. This doesn’t make the news, of course. It doesn’t make headlines that the overwhelming majority of bank tellers don’t rob the till, or that most dogs don’t bite, or that most young people aren’t hoons….

      Bonzo Jones has never bitten anyone.

      Marie Smith has never stolen money from the till.

      Jeff Brown has never driven drunk.

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  13. robertguyton

     /  October 19, 2018

    “He wants to pull the temple down.”
    Farrar.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 19, 2018

      Of course he does. But so far he is weaponless and impotent.

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      • robertguyton

         /  October 19, 2018

        Yeah – National are rock-solid!
        Jesus wept.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 19, 2018

        I hope he’s got something on Tova. I think that would only be far.

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        • Gezza

           /  October 19, 2018

          *fair

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        • Tipene

           /  October 20, 2018

          Journalists protect their own.

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          • Gezza

             /  October 20, 2018

            Yeah but Ross wouldn’t care a damn now. If they retaliate by identifying the original leaker their own reputations as journalists who protect their sources are shot. And JLR seems to have no compunction about
            1. Changing his story
            2. Heartfelt apology
            3. More dirt

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  14. alloytoo

     /  October 20, 2018

    I would imagine that the botany electorate would relish the opportunity of a by-election.

    I can’t imagine any of them wanting to be represented by this untrustworthy narcissistic megalomaniac (and frankly a person who has just rendered himself unemployable in NZ).

    The real question here is what can the Voters of Botany do?

    No doubt many would argue that they (irrespective of political affiliation) should not be represented by such an obviously unfit individual.

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