More claims of women ‘crushed’ by Ross

Earlier in the week Jami-Lee Ross tried to claim some moral high ground and denied having harassed or treated women badly.

He also complained about claims and insinuations by Simon Bridges and Paula Bennett that there were many women not pleased with Ross’ behaviour. He said he had been threatened with up to 15 revelations, and promised to release a recording of Bridges ‘threatening’ him.

Newsroom responded with  Jami-Lee Ross: Four women speak out

Over the past year, Newsroom investigations editor Melanie Reid has been looking into the background and behaviour of former National MP Jami-Lee Ross. She has talked to a number of people who have given detailed accounts, recordings and documents of their close working and personal relationships with the controversial politician.

Some felt manipulated and intimidated by the way he goes about his politics and his social interactions. Others felt pressured not to speak out.

Today Newsroom presents, on the condition of anonymity, the stories of four women and the relationships which they now believe saw them variously groomed, used for access to information and power, and abused.

Each saw the MP speak out on Tuesday denying his leaders’ allegations of “harassment”, saying he was raised to respect all women.

A bright young graduate had her self-esteem and mental health crushed over a period of six months working for Jami-Lee Ross in what she says was “death by a thousand cuts”.

Another woman who worked for Ross said he bullied and belittled her, using a string of lies to discredit her work.

Yesterday Ross admitted poor behaviour as a husband (and admitted having two affairs). He also apologised to one one, who had gone public, Katrina Bungard – see National candidate speaks out over harassment by rogue MP Jami-Lee Ross

He also supplied the recording of Bridges talking of fifteen women.

Following that from Newsroom – Death by 1000 cuts: Working for Jami-Lee Ross

They were young women starting out in employment and in politics. They had the misfortune to work for an MP called Jami-Lee Ross.

Here two more of the women, interviewed by Newsroom’s Melanie Reid and Cass Mason in their investigation into the former National MP, outline their working hell – and ongoing fears.

Ross tonight apologised to his wife for his behaviour but stopped short of personally apologising to four women whose cases Newsroom reported yesterday.

These further two testimonies back those who have gone before.

They are among a growing list of women who have told their experiences to Newsroom.

So this is six women now. It appears that Bridges was right in talking of a ‘pattern of behaviour’.

Ross has threatened to dish out dirt on all and sundry in Parliament now his real nature has been laid bare – some call this a death by a 1000 cuts type politics.

But it is Ross’ political career that is dying by many cutting revelations.

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  4. artcroft

     /  October 20, 2018

    Yesterday I wondered who would be the first to issue a book on this event. Clearly that will be JLR; it’s looking like it be out before xmas and will be a massive best seller.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 20, 2018

      Will it be filed under Politics or Fiction? How many law-suits will it attract?

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      • PartisanZ

         /  October 20, 2018

        Doesn’t matter does it Alan … by capitalist standards … if the sales are good enough … if enough suckers buy it?

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 20, 2018

          I doubt even the loony Left will cough up for Ross, PZ. Although they look like paying Trumpy’s legsl fees via Stormy Daniels.

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          • Blazer

             /  October 20, 2018

            a bestseller…’Romping on the Right’

            ‘The Brute of Botany’..

            ‘A whip lets Rip’.

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          • Gezza

             /  October 20, 2018

            I’d never buy his book. The last thing I’d want to do is give any more of my dollars to this fucking creep.

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            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              You’ve already given him … some?

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              Yep. So have you. Unless you’re a tax evader? o_O

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              De minimus. I don’t resent supporting democracy. What about the grime, aside from his own, that he’s exposing? By demonising him, those who seek to avoid the disinfecting qualities of sunlight, play the same games they’ve always played.

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              What grime? Private discussions about political realities? Allegations unsupported by anything but his own apparent attempts to create unlawful situations? How do we know what backroom deals are being done and strong-arm actions are being taken by other parties to deal with “dissidents” opposed to the policies or disgraceful even fraudulent behaviours by MPs (or leaders? They get trashed and afterwards everyone pretends they don’t know them and hopes they drop off the radar because some PM’s certainly don’t come to their rescue if they’ve been targeting their voters. Sort of thing.

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              “What grime”?
              Okay then. A well -placed MP turns rogue and spills the beans on his party. The likelihood of their being “grime” is minuscule, aye! ‘Specially in the National Party, ’cause, clean-as history!
              Dirty Politics Happy days!

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              I’ve never voted National and I’m neither shocked nor surprised by anything revealed so far. This is what I expect politics to be like. Calculating and compromising and a few people who turn out to be pricks or hypocrites. Given long enuf all parties and especially those who get into government suffer from these malaises. And the media love it.

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              The Greens don’t suffer from “these” malaises. Their kappa is different. I read yesterday that it’s not so much that power corrupts, it’s more that power attracts the easily corruptible (though not exclusively – there are very good people in politics, central and local 🙂

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              Kaupapa

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              They made a benefit fraudster a bloody co-leader. Then they screwed over two members who objected to her continuing in that role. For Christ’s sake robert. Pull your head out and smell the coffee.

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              The topic is “National”, Gezza.

              “Muttonbird 8.1.3
              19 October 2018 at 8:14 pm
              I think he’s doing the country an important service. The revealing of the inner workings and vile values of the National Party is of incalculable worth.”
              TS

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              “Watching a couple of Nats debating the situation just now on The Nation, they aren’t owning up, still in denial. Interviewed by Simon Shepherd who I worked with for years in the TVNZ newsroom in the nineties. Simon’s a good guy (Australian) but he let an opportunity slip past him in regard to that recording of SB talking to JLR about the 100K donation. He failed to correct the narrative issuing from the bald-headed guy, making it seem as if JLR is solely responsible, when the recording proves the contrary.”
              TS

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              “Sharp analysis from Danyl Mclauchlan:
              https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/20-10-2018/the-uniquely-damaging-betrayals-of-jami-lee-ross/

              Finally, a huge component of Ross’s unique toxicity is his political lineage. He was a supporter of Judith Collins, a friend of Cameron Slater and Simon Lusk, who has been advising him through this trainwreck. They comprise the core of the nihilist faction of the National Party made famous in Dirty Politics and sundry other scandals.

              Lots of politicians from across the political spectrum resort to unethical tactics to achieve their goals, but what was so unusual about the Dirty Politics crowd is that they didn’t seem to have any goals, other than to be in politics so they could lie and leak and bully and smear and ruin people’s lives. For them that IS politics.

              And, in the grand tradition of the ‘you knew I was a scorpion’ parable, empowering a faction of ruthless, amoral assholes whose only goal was to destroy everyone around them has been a predictable disaster for National.

              It’s a disaster that’s shone light in some interesting places though: like those scuffles in Scooby Doo where someone falls backwards through a tapestry revealing a hidden disguise and secret passageway.”

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              The topic is “National”, Gezza.
              No, the topic you’ve diverted to is disgraceful politicians and whether people in their parties knew what they’d done and condoned it. And whether they must have known. And what happens to party people who stand up against these crooks.

    • PDB

       /  October 20, 2018

      “JLR, New Zealand’s version of LBJ”

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  5. I’m not sure whether this is pathetic or hilarious:

    The more National leaks and attacks this man the more his words will come true. They are literally proving what he said on Tuesday morning for him.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2018/10/bridges-caught-in-a-porkie-new-audio-released-by-ross/#more-416579

    How many lies has Ross tried to spin this week?

    It’s hard to say who is discredited, Slater or Ross.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 20, 2018

      In the race to self-inflicted bankruptcy Slater is ahead.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  October 20, 2018

      Reflects well on Bridges though huh? *SARC*

      And even better on National …?

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    • And as is common at WO these days, Slater is challenged:

      Sorry – have to disagree again. Having listened to the recording, Simon said that if he really wanted natural justice – natural justice! – it would be 15 not 4. It wasn’t a threat, it was trying to get JLR to acknowledge a truth. And really the affairs are incidental. The bit that matters, and the ones that will probably make up the 15 are about abuse, not sex.

      WO has survived reasonably well despite Slater over the last year or so, he has lost most of his mana and his power.

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      • And:

        p totally agree. Everything JLR has released so far goes along with what Bridges has been saying.

        Wishing for something to be truendies not make it so.

        I’d prefer someone else to be leader, but so far what I’ve seen from Simon through this debacle has been a leader acting quite strongly.

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      • And:

        Or it proves that Ross was being ousted for being a dirt bag and they tried to let him go quietly but he has chosen not to

        So far nothing he has released is doing anything but making himself look like a sneak.

        Sounds like he is getting poor advise to me.

        Yesterday the score was National 2 – 0 Ross

        This latest tape in my humble opinion makes it 3-0

        Ross and Slater are in fantasy land.

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  6. david in aus

     /  October 20, 2018

    Question: Do they need to do anything with Ross now? He is so damaged with no credibility, what is the point of forcing an outcome?

    Ross is a spent force, he is so far shooting blanks. Revealing of severe character flaws has made him an unreliable. If he had anything more damaging he would have released it by now.

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    • david in aus

       /  October 20, 2018

      Just like Slater, better to ignore Ross. They are kindred spirits.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 20, 2018

      I think they have an obligation to his electorate to remove a disfunctional MP.

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      • david in aus

         /  October 20, 2018

        He is an electorate MP. It should be up to his electorate to vote him out. The use of the Waka Jumping legislation is wrong in this situation.
        Perhaps, there should be a recall mechanism for these kinds of situations. They have that in the US.

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        • Could be good grounds for an electorate petition.

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          • robertguyton

             /  October 20, 2018

            Isn’t it great that all the talk’s about National and that talk’s unsavoury (to say the least!).

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            • I don’t think it’s great at all, it’s terrible – and it reflects badly on Parliament and politics as a whole, and I think that’s how many people will see it. It’s bad and sad for our democracy.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 20, 2018

              You mean it’s a great relief for your incompetent Government, Robert? Enjoy while it lasts.

            • PartisanZ

               /  October 20, 2018

              … “bad and sad for our democracy” and especially the part the ‘Wealth & Power’ National [deleted] plays in it …

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              You’re right, Pete. It is terrible and nobody’s really enjoying it. It is however, revealing and therefore fascinating to watch. With that in mind, I can understand why you have broadcast so much on the topic, with a special focus on the unsavoury details of what’s being said and what has been done. You’ve really aired National’s and Jami-Lee’s dirty washing regularly and in clear view, is is your choice. Bad and sad, you say? Yet you’ve covered it extensively. You didn’t have to, but you did.

            • I don’t know what you’re trying to get at here.

              You don’t have to join in discussions on it. But you do. Whatever that means.

              I have been thinking about how it has been covered by the media – I think it could be worth calling on the media to start reporting on facts only, and to stop giving Ross a medium to make lie, to make unsubstantiated claims and accusations, and to threaten disclosure of people’s personal lives after he has outed himself.

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              Alan – yes, the attention directed at National is giving the Government a welcome relief and allowing them to strengthen their position. National, otoh, are fractured and deeply hurt, Imo. Recovering from this, if ever they do, will take a very long time.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 20, 2018

              @Robert, you’ve never heard what they say about sunlight, then?

              Or you are just a player?

            • PartisanZ

               /  October 20, 2018

              Labour … and even Labour-led as a whole … look both competent and kind compared to this …

              I bet there’s an army of National moles digging for dirt on the government Right now though … Diggin’ for all they’re worth …

              “We need a DIVERSION!!!” …

              And Clark Gayford *Twitting* ain’t gonna do it … Sorry.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 20, 2018

              Yes, Robert, I would say it will probably take at least a couple of weeks for National to recover unless the Govt does something more stupid than usual first. And it’s pretty clear Ross has united rather than split them. Go back to your wishful thinking.

            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              I’ve heard, “Sunlight on my shoulders makes me happy” – is that what you mean, Alan?

            • PDB

               /  October 20, 2018

              I thought sunlight on your shoulders gives you skin cancer and is a sure sign of man-made global warming?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  October 20, 2018

              Rejoicing in other people’s misfortune isn’t an attractive characteristic, Robert, it’s called schadenfreude.

              .

            • PartisanZ

               /  October 20, 2018

              Oh for heaven’s sake Miss Kitty! The selective morality …

              If the situation were reversed, many a Bluey on here would be creaming themselves at the misfortune of a Labour, NZFirst or Green politician &/or Party …

              They’ll forgive National ANYTHING … But can barely contain themselves at the slightest domestic utterance or movement from Jacinda … and are looking for some kind of ‘equivalence’ in Clarke Gayford *twitting* something in defense of his partner …

  7. duperez

     /  October 20, 2018

    The Ben Thomas tweet, the Hooton one then the Whaleoil angle (I admit I didn’t read it) show the magnificence of this multi-faceted spectacle and how it can be mined for whatever purpose from infinite perspectives.

    The ‘I heard people fuck’ is a good defence strategy to use. There will be a group whose focus will be on that. They’ll be the ones who arrived on planet earth by way of some sex act – goodness knows where – on a church altar, behind the bike sheds, in a telephone booth or even in a bed – who went crazy at the thought of an Auckland mayor being involved in such activity. They’re likely some of those who rail against the Prime Minister because she isn’t married and has brought a ‘bastard child’ into the world.

    The behaviour of Ross might be extreme but then again it might simply be a little window into the world of people, with all their foibles. The Parliamentary bit is incidental.

    Is there any doubt that there are unethical doings and dealings in that environment, different than the ‘sins’ of Ross but known and excused? The bloodlust to deal to the dishonourable one is palpable. When it comes from (excuse the generalisation) the old Remuera ladies who accept blatant dishonesty and wrangling from their favoured ones, and champion them over years, you have to laugh.

    In the19th minute of the 2007 Rugby World Cup quarter final in Cardiff Reuben Thorne made a great tackle on his own 22. It showed his qualities, what a great player he was and how his ability was under-estimated. I could carry on and write a lot more about it but then I might sound like a cheer-leader making irrelevant references, that in the overall picture mean nothing. France 20 – NZ 18.

    And be accused of sounding like Matthew Hooton writing about Simon Bridges. Has Bridges crawled out of the sewer with the gold watch?

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    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2018

      That’s just way too bloody long and rambllng. I read through it once and I’m not going back to try and pick out the relevant bits.

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      • duperez

         /  October 20, 2018

        I understand – the modern generation – just want headlines. The only contexts are gut ones the only depth, skin.

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        • Gezza

           /  October 20, 2018

          So true. But I’m not the modern generation and its the rambling that hurt my brain.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  October 20, 2018

        I didn’t read enough for it to do that.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  October 20, 2018

      Long initial comment duperez … almost TL:DR …

      But “Has Bridges crawled out of the sewer with the gold watch?” has gotta be a contender for LINE OF THE DECADE!

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  8. robertguyton

     /  October 20, 2018

    ” The bloodlust to deal to the dishonourable one is palpable. ”
    QFT.

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  9. Zedd

     /  October 20, 2018

    I still remember clearly the way J-LR acted in parliament (during a committee) when he ‘demanded to be heard.. as THE CHIEF WHIP of the LARGEST party in Parliament’ (yelling over the chair).. it was referred to as; looking like a spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum !

    BUT also old footage of Bridges (as a Young Nat) saying (paraphrased) ‘We need to ditch the SNOBBY little Rich-kids label’: many a true word spoken in jest ?

    This just highlights the mindset of ‘Joe Natl MP/member’.. most from a culture of privilege/expectation of ‘high achievement’.. but then REALITY strikes 😀

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 20, 2018

      JRL seems to have come from a culture of high expectations rather than privilege and certainly not a snobby little rich kid. I expect forensic investigations of the disaster will eventually reveal more.

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  10. robertguyton

     /  October 20, 2018

    “National’s retribution? Another two disgruntled former staff members anonymously whining to Melanie Reid, National preferred smear merchant, a reporter with her own ethical issues.

    Paula Bennett’s smear team that has been used so effectively in the past is still operating and smearing despite the impact of the latest smears being tiny when compared with their nuclear option – which failed.

    Someone really needs to pull the so-called brains trust aside and tell them to calm the hell down, because going nuclear has failed. They went nasty, now people are likely to get named. Once the naming starts, all support for Bridges and Bennett will evaporate. Once people’s personal lives are at risk, being tough gets hard and not many people can sustain it.

    How do I know all this? Because they did it to me. They did it to Todd Barclay and now they are doing it to Jami-lee Ross.

    National stupidly thinks they are still as powerful as when they were in government, when threats actually meant something. I laughed when John Key threatened me; I laughed more when Bill English did too. Right now the threats and the leaks won’t be scaring Jami-Lee Ross, they will be emboldening him. They picked a fight with a man who has nothing to lose.”
    WO

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    • Gezza

       /  October 20, 2018

      How do I know all this? Because they did it to me.
      No, you did it to yourself.

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    • The usual sort of crap from Slater. He has whined for the last four years when National cut him adrift. He threatened to reveal all – I assume as per usual it was hot air and no substance.

      And full of his usual contradictions. “They went nasty, now people are likely to get named.” Slater is the one who seems to see an excuse to go nasty again, he has already been naming and hinting and threatening.

      I don’t know what your point in posting this here was Robert, but Slater is as bad as Ross in a number of ways – I think including bullshitting and lying.

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      • robertguyton

         /  October 20, 2018

        Pete, these are just views from commentators around the traps; collating and gathering a variety of views is something you’ve said many times, you like do do and value doing. I’m just helping.
        “Ross has more tapes of Bridges and – allegedly – his colleagues; he’ll have text messages, emails, maybe screenshots of private social media exchanges. Who knows! Ross’s behaviour is so unpredictable there’s no way to know what he’ll do next or will happen with any of it, but an extended campaign of terror in which he releases bombshells during every National AGM or whenever Bridges makes a policy announcement seems simply unsurvivable. And this isn’t because Bridges is outstandingly flawed: no leader can survive having their conversations with their close advisors made public. ”
        Danyl.

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    • Another similarity between Ross and Slater is blaming others for their own stuff ups and predicament, and failing to accept responsibility.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 20, 2018

        Another similarity between robert and slater is pushing smears and claiming he doesn’t do that.

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        • robertguyton

           /  October 20, 2018

          “National is supposed to be the party of conservatism and family values and their married-with-kids MPs are having ‘brutal misogynistic sex’ with each other while the president of the party covers up allegations of harassment. We’re learning a lot about some of the people who run our country, or who aspire to, because we’re – briefly – seeing them as they really are, not as they want to be seen.”

          https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/20-10-2018/the-uniquely-damaging-betrayals-of-jami-lee-ross/

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  October 20, 2018

            If that’s what you are learning you are adding to the rubbish you already believe, Robert.

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          • Gezza

             /  October 20, 2018

            See what I mean? As far as I know the evidence shows that the Party hierarchy confronted him with it. Got an apology, no doubt a very convincingly fake apology and promise never to repeat the behaviour and the victim agreed to accept a settlement, Nobody condoned this sort of thing. Whether and how much Bridges ever knew has not been established. Lots of people in the Green party must have known about Metiria’s benefit fraud and who the dad was and the strong connection to someone well-off in the Labour party, surely?

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            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              Anyway, enuf hypocrisy-pointing-out for me for now. I’m off down to feed Tameiti or Eli. I’ll leave you to wallow in your shit-smearing for now robert. There are a few articles I have to read when I get back.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  October 20, 2018

            Gezza posts, and Robert proves his point in response. Fantastic effort there.

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            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              “Interesting comments in the story by Tracy Watkins- usually a national party apologist
              https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/10/watkins_on_the_saga.html

              Bridges’ valve burst Wednesday evening when he phoned around political editors to warn them he had been defamed and his reputation damaged.

              In his conversation with me, he threatened to walk away from our weekly interview because I was too negative.

              Warning the Political editors ehh. I bet it was the full intimidation.

              No wonder they switched from Bridges transgressions over to JLR as ‘mad bad and dangerous to know’”
              TS

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 20, 2018

              Except that Bridges has revealed no transgressions and JLR is self-evidently mad, bad and dangerous to know.

              You think Bridges was wrong to tell the media that if they defamed him with JLR’s lies he would sue? I see that action entirely reasonable and rational.

            • Blazer

               /  October 20, 2018

              So does Bridges say he will not sue Ross even though he maintains he has defamed him?

          • Gezza

             /  October 20, 2018

            And, in its proper context, some of the rest of that selective quote of robert’s above :

            ‘Politics should be about policy and values,’ is a sentiment we’ve heard from a few commentators in response to recent events; an understandable reaction to the torrent of malice and lies vomiting out of the many orifices of the National Party. And that’s all very well and good, but for professional politicians ‘values’ are mostly just a form of marketing: the current government talks about transparency and open democracy but is obsessed with secrecy and cosy with lobbyists;

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            • robertguyton

               /  October 20, 2018

              Yeah, whaddaboutLabour!?!

            • Gezza

               /  October 20, 2018

              Exactly. And let’s not even go there with *other* members of the *current government* who might have done a bit of fibbing about their own importance and previous jobs n stuff. Once the parties and the sensation-junkie journos start poking around you can uncover all sorts of surprises. And there’ve been others deluded enuf to think going public with unlawful behaviour or misrepresentation might win them votes and some have crashed and burned and damn near killed their party. Many Politicians seem to end up getting an egotistically distorted view of how they’re perceived even though they always score low in surveys of trustworthiness. But let’s not even go there at the moment.

  11. Gerrit

     /  October 20, 2018

    Have a theory why Slater (and possibly by extension, Lush) is piquet. They had a deep planted agent in the highest echelons of the National Party to feed them all they needed to bring National into disrepute.

    A political party Slater, in particular, felt were slighted by. Being thrown under the bus by Key.

    Slater gets into bed with NZ First and promotes them prior to the election like Peters can walk on water.

    NZFirst poll rating take a nosedive after getting into bed with Labour and in order to get the voters to turn to NZFirst at the next election, they need to steal votes from National (no point in taking Labour voters).

    So they recruit Ross to be the agent to spy on National. The idea is to bring ALL the dirty laundry out 4 to 6 months prior to the 2020 election, for maxium distruptive effect and get disgruntled National voters to vote NZFirst.

    Problem is their agent goes rogue and makes a dick of himself whilst sleeping around away from home. National sidelines him because Ross has embarrassed himself with the infidelities.

    The only thing left to do for Slater (and co) is to go full nuclear and bring the release forward in the hope they can stretch it out for the next eighteen months with drip fed revelations.

    Hence Ross has to remain in parliament to get the wherefore all in regards finance, parliamentary protection (sounds like Peters?) resources and access to churnalists.

    Why Ross? They knew he was playing away from home, they knew his narcissist personality, they knew he was possibly not in a good financially position (missing funds from Botany? – would donations not go straight to the National management team coffers rather then through a branch office?)

    All theory, but strategically possible.

    Especially the donations funding channels from donor, through a branch account to head office. Is that normal? Sure the local representative may be a facilitator between donor and head office but money handler as well?

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    • PartisanZ

       /  October 20, 2018

      Jeez … How horrible … So basically what you’re saying is that despite occasional talk of “principles and policy”, and despite a lot of focus on “personality”, our politics is basically a small bunch of shitty persons throwing their personal shit at one another …

      And what of the women “crushed by Ross” vaguely mentioned in the title of this topic?

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  12. Gerrit

     /  October 20, 2018

    Lush = Lusk

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  13. robertguyton

     /  October 20, 2018

    Simon Bridges – “Bridges repeats in the clip that ‘we’re talking about one bad egg’ but it’s clear he was bosom buddies with that one bad egg for a decade and more.”

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  14. robertguyton

     /  October 20, 2018

    Goodness!
    “Muttonbird 25
    20 October 2018 at 4:42 pm
    “OMG. Does this clown have no shame?”

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2018/10/simon-bridges-defends-asian-comments-from-ross-recording-at-auckland-s-diwali-festival.html

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