Media watch – Wednesday

24 October 2018

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  1. Missy

     /  October 24, 2018

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    • Corky

       /  October 24, 2018

      Wow.. I think it’s the right call not to attempt a retrieval. The ship is doing OK where it is. However, there may be a treasure trove inside that should be recovered if at all possible.

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      • Missy

         /  October 24, 2018

        Agree. Having seen the extent that the Brits have gone to to preserve the Mary Rose (about 1/3 the age of this vessel) I think it would be catastrophic to try and retrieve it. I would like to see them at least look at the possibility of exploring inside, and these days with remote cameras etc it could (hopefully) be done with very little intrusion on the wreck itself.

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    • PDB

       /  October 24, 2018

      For all those who said Auckland Council fuel tax was a ‘one off’ by the govt…….also someone is telling lies, my bet is the govt is;

      Newshub: “The city council has confirmed it is in early discussions with the Government after National leader Simon Bridges revealed the move to The AM Show. They say other councils in the Wellington region are also in talks about the tax.”.

      “Transport Minister Phil Twyford is denying there have been discussions.”

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      • PDB

         /  October 24, 2018

        Sounds like Twyford and Lester have quickly moved to say it isn’t happening……….”had been” possibly the key words in this initial statement: “Wellington City Council spokesperson Richard MacLean told Newshub the council had been in early discussions with the Government, after Mr Bridges revealed the move.”.

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      • NOEL

         /  October 24, 2018

        “However, Labour Party Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says the party has no plans for a regional fuel tax anywhere outside of Auckland.” October 2017

        One year on I guess the plan has changed?

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        • NOEL

           /  October 24, 2018

          What area does WCC cover?

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          • NOEL

             /  October 24, 2018

            Reason I asked although its called Auckland Regional Fuel Tax the area it applies to is only to the areas within the boundaries of Auckland City .

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            • PDB

               /  October 24, 2018

              Auckland Council still covers a massive area though (roughly just North of Wellsford to Bombay), I think Wellington City Council is NZ’s third biggest?

        • Blazer

           /  October 24, 2018

          no Wellington Regional Council has the..’plan’.

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          • NOEL

             /  October 24, 2018

            WRC makes sense but not WCC.

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            • Gezza

               /  October 24, 2018

              Basically Bridges got fucked over by the Government today when Jacinda and her crew scrambled and managed to make him look like either a liar, confused, or a complete dick.

              WTF was he thinking? He went to air with a rumour from a “source” that he then couldn’t produce to back him up when this was denied??

              (In one of the most complicated and hastily-cobbled-together shoot downs I’ve ever seen, but that worked and gave them all a load of laffs)

              Farkin hopeless, Bridges. Christ. You are farkin impervious to education.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 24, 2018

              @G, not how the Herald’s political reporter sees it:
              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12148102

            • Gezza

               /  October 24, 2018

              Whether it’s a backflip or not will not matter to the drivers of the regions.

              Ardern got rid of a political hot potato and saved herself the problem of performing the exact same back-flip in two years’ time. The timing of it suited Bridges too.
              Don’t think this even made it onto 1ewes, so altho they scrambled he didn’t have a source to back him up & I reckon he muffed that up citing a farkin “source”. Jesus. Hasn’t he had enuf problems with “sources” that can’t be backed up. Also he spoke in that interview like a moron. This is something that seems unlikely to be fixable.

              Is Trevett a National flunky type? I don’t really keep track of the ones who tend more to the left or right. I don’t think she’s a gutter one.

              Bridges will take victories where he can and here it came in finally getting people talking about petrol again rather than his leadership.

              Yes this is very topical – but he’s got a long way to go in being the one who can best cut this government off at the knees over this because Ardern and her backups can better articulate plausible-sounding alternative reasons why the price increases are much steeper than their levies should make them than he can in shooting them down and explaining simply and clearly where they are wrong and producing a simple explanation that most people can get and see at a glance.

        • Gezza

           /  October 24, 2018

          @ Noel
          What area does WCC cover?

          Wellington City Council area is this:

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          • Gezza

             /  October 24, 2018

            So it’s just that bottom left blue area in your posted map of the Greater Wellington Region.

            The whole Greater Wellington Region is the bailiwick of the Greater Wellington Regional Council – colloquially known as the Wellington Regional Council.

            However, the WELLINGTON REGION is shown on the right in this image.

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  3. duperez

     /  October 24, 2018

    At 7.30am one day someone from the Wellington Council asks someone in Government as they walk to their offices, “Are you thinking about a regional fuel tax down here?”
    Answer, “No, haven’t even discussed that.”

    Newshub says a Council spokesperson says the council has been in early discussions with the Government. Simon Bridges picks it up and says the Government is ‘considering’ introducing a fuel tax to the region.

    What does ‘considering’ mean? The Government sits around the table and Twyford says “Let’s consider a Wellington fuel tax shall we?” Or someone, anyone asks if they’re going to have a Wellington fuel tax or says specifically, “They’re considering a fuel tax” and they say “No, we’re not.”

    Quite legitimately, “There you go they’ve considered a Wellington fuel tax.”

    And Noel says Robertson’s plans for a regional fuel tax anywhere outside of Auckland have changed.

    That’s how it works.

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    • NOEL

       /  October 24, 2018

      Ahh there was a question mark.

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      • duperez

         /  October 24, 2018

        I saw that. The sort of question mark that’s at the end of asking someone loudly as they walk into a crowded public meeting, “Are you a child molester?”

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  4. duperez

     /  October 24, 2018

    In Question Time the regional fuel tax thing was discussed. To paraphrase the PM speaking about Simon Bridges’ claims: “Simon Bridges was bullshitting.”

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