Bridges versus Slater escalates

Cameron Slater seems to have been largely speculating from the sidelines of the Jami-Lee Ross saga, until the weekend when Ross was committed to mental health care. That is now getting very messy and ugly.

Yesterday from NZ Herald: National’s leader Simon Bridges rings Dirty Politics blogger to talk Jami-Lee Ross

The Jami-Lee Ross saga has forced National Party leader Simon Bridges into conversation with Dirty Politics blogger Cameron Slater, who is in close contact with the rogue and unwell MP.

Bridges’ office confirmed to the Herald that Bridges called Slater to give the right-wing attack blogger assurances over decisions about Ross having been made after taking proper medical advice.

The phone call confirms Slater’s key role in the Ross affair, which has caused the National Party more than a week of anxiety and chaos.

It is believed Slater has been personally supporting Ross since the weekend and his assistance extended to helping the MP in his release from Middlemore Hospital’s mental health facilities yesterday.

Slater’s role has also extended to briefing media on aspects of the Ross saga.

A spokesman said: “Mr Bridges contacted Mr Slater to make clear that he acted on appropriate medical advice throughout this process.”

The spokesman would not say how long the call was or if other matters were discussed, although said: “It was a brief conversation focused on Mr Ross’ health.”

The phone call was referred to by Slater in a lengthy blog post in which he accused the National Party of arranging publication of the claims by the four women who spoke out about Ross’ behaviour.

Slater wrote: “When I spoke to Simon Bridges on Monday he was continuing to deny a hit job.”

Last night Slater posted:

Thanks for calling by. Funny thing is…or concerning…is that when Bridges called me he had zero concern for the safety of JLR, despite his own office being involved int eh incident on Saturday night. Something he now denies. When confronted with some salient facts on the call all he did was lie and lie some more. The fact is his chief of staff contacted JLR’s doctor on the evening of the incident. There is a text record of it, and yet this morning he denied ever knowing what was going dow. Despite one of his MPs calling the police, despite the two members in his office and the MP fabricating their stories to Newsroom. Dear old Simon bridges knows nothing.

All Simon Bridges did on the call was explain and lie.

Even worse is this claim that he is the brilliant mastermind who leaked his call tot eh media. Idiots…I wrote about it this morning.

I’m sorry that you think caring for the life of a friend is more important that your stupid political party. You should distrust a political party that is prepared to kill someone by setting him up rather than a blogger who only seeks to tell the truth about people who lie.

You will find out at 1100 tomorrow how that works out for people who accuse me of lying.

And:

Yes I don’t like the smell either, of lying politicians who are prepared to kill people.

There’s a bit of hypocrisy here, given what Slater had suggested happen to the leaker. Earlier Slater has claimed “They do not have mental issues”, and said “He should be hunting down this person and cutting their throat.”see Slater reverses his claims about leaker.

There are also some serious accusations. It was hard to imagine this getting messier, but that’s how it looks.

A post just up on WO: Herald breaks news that Simon Bridges called me, after I already wrote about it in the morning

I have been piecing together the evidence. There is evidence. The stories of National, Simon Bridges and Paula Bennett don’t add up. They know they don’t add up, and so they roll out David Fisher to break the news I had already posted in the morning that Simon Bridges rang me.

The posts and comments of Slater don’t seem to add up either.

This is deadly serious and sometime politics should be trumped by humanity.

Slater actually said that. Perhaps the problems Ross has have been a wake up call for him. perhaps.

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51 Comments

  1. Slater also said: “Stay tuned for 11:00, and see how it works out for people who accuse me of lying and making things up.”

    I suspect the Slater v Craig judgment is about to be released. And I suspect that it may not be a total victory for Slater (or for Craig). Both numpties who overdid things perhaps.

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    • Gezza

       /  October 25, 2018

      Is anybody keeping a running total spreadsheet tracking all these suits and counter suits and players, who’s got money awarded or deducted, who’s in the theoretical black or red, and by how much in:
      (1) awards, and
      (2) payments
      (3) court costs ?

      It’s too hard trying to read all the weird and wonderful decisions on all the myriad of relevant cases. I just want to know these financial basics really.

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      • unitedtribes2

         /  October 25, 2018

        One must spend a lot of money to protect ones integrity. Trouble is no-one can remember how their integrity was damaged in the first place. Sad but keeps them out of everyone else hair for a while.

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      • Beanie

         /  October 25, 2018

        Costs are up for discussion end November at separate hearing. Judge starts from premise the loser pays costs of the winner but noted they both have lost on many actions. It would be hard to award one more costs over the other so hopefully it is a costs where they fall situation to prevent such frivolous wastes of court time in future. Craig self-represented whereas Slater had a legal team (Winston Peters’ known and trusted confidant Brian Henry leading it) presumably on contingency.

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  October 25, 2018

      Well what a bombshell that was – no damages. CC did sexually harass Rachel (Quelle surprise!) and CS did defame CC but he had no reputation left to protect so got nothing.

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      • PDB

         /  October 25, 2018

        Two blokes go to court to confirm what everybody but themselves knew – that they both have zero reputation.

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        • Gezza

           /  October 25, 2018

          Zero reputation is incorrect. That is too high on the scale for both.

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  October 25, 2018

          I’m waiting for Tipene to pop in to tell us another judge got it wrong and Colin is just misunderstood.We only understand one of him…when we need to understand both of him (to paraphrase).

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  2. David in Aus

     /  October 25, 2018

    Bridges should be advised to ignore Slater. If he engages with that fellow, it will not end well for him.

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    • Gezza

       /  October 25, 2018

      I’d be recommending he cut Tova O’Brien & Lisa Owen out of the interview and questions arena too. No big deal of it, just studiously ignore them both, but play ball with others. Those two only going to twist their already bloody knives with anything more they get to work with anyway.

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      • Chuck Bird

         /  October 25, 2018

        Soper is as bad.

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        • Gezza

           /  October 25, 2018

          Same recommendation then. I don’t listen to Soper or pay much attention to his written utterances. He long ago ceased to say anything that looked much worthy of consideration by me.

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  3. artcroft

     /  October 25, 2018

    Skater is basking in the light but hasn’t yet worked out that it’s a train headed his way. #squash.

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  4. Zedd

     /  October 25, 2018

    a race to the bottom.. for relevance

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    • PDB

       /  October 25, 2018

      Hager: “When I was researching Dirty Politics…” – the guy was handed a whole database full of stolen emails and from those he handpicked a few (compared to the amount he would’ve had in his possession) to base his book upon. He then couldn’t be bothered interviewing any of the major players, didn’t look into what so-called ‘dirty politics’ was happening with the left or even investigating who was really behind stealing the emails.

      Research my ass.

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      • Blazer

         /  October 25, 2018

        no one is interested in your..ass.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 26, 2018

        Ok, in the interests of science & knowledge, I did the research.

        I just took the academic professional approach and Google-Image-Searched the only specified term item, viz – “PDB my ass”.

        It wasn’t all bad, and he’s in better shape than I thought, tbh – if a little on the grandiose side getting one of these made for posteriority:

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  October 25, 2018

      thanks, Roberto … great informative read.
      Brought it all back what a pack of sick power hungry puppies,
      those young nat wannabees #shapeshifters were and still are …

      #Shapeshifter
      A weak-minded individual who bends their personality in order to befriend certain people. This person usually has very low self-esteem and feels very insecure about his or her lack of accomplishments in the world or about just being his or her self.

      as for Crusha reminded me what a piece of work she really is.

      Why is she still in office? … who does she really represent
      Papakura was a very poncy place 30 years ago …it’s now a ghetto.
      How long has Crusha been in charge there now?

      hehe PDB I’m pretty sure NO-ONE wants to research yaw ass.

      NH was out to expose the grime that was and is WO et al.
      Why would he interview Slater et al when he had their emails gifted to him.
      Why waste his time interviewing a known embellisher.
      why waste his time an energy on rubbish.
      when he had the REAL story gifted to him.

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  5. robertguyton

     /  October 25, 2018

    “If someone was intending to push a mentally fragile person over the edge, then threatening him with the anonymous testimony of four aggrieved female complainants, might recommend itself as a highly effective way of doing so. If that someone then publicly suggested that the person in question had been behaving in ways incompatible with his status as a married man, well then, it’s easy to see how the notion that he was being pushed to the limit might take a firmer grip on the public mind.”

    http://bowalleyroad.blogspot.com/2018/10/questions-questions-questions.html

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    • MaureenW

       /  October 25, 2018

      There’s an award for the most prepositions in a comment. This one is in the running for a prize 😜

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    • Gezza

       /  October 25, 2018

      I read that when you posted it the other night (or was it a link, can’t recall, not important).
      I find Trotter worth a read sometimes, and sometimes not. His No Left Turn book was very interesting and well worth a read.

      This article is laughably not. He goes so over the top in his faux outrage by the time I finished it I couldn’t stop my eyes rolling and chuckling at its ridiculous bias and lack of recognition that JLR would be out of protective care almost as soon as he could be talked to by an expert & shown where the exit was.

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      • Gezza

         /  October 25, 2018

        But, truly, thank you for how you presented that relevant excerpt and link for consideration.

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        • MaureenW

           /  October 25, 2018

          Ssshh, I think he needs to have his rest now – all that copying and pasting can be tiring – he’ll need some quiet space to reflect on why he’s doing this at all.

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          • Gezza

             /  October 25, 2018

            Oh, I’m sure he knows why he’s doing it. He seems to be me to be a Green Slater.

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  October 25, 2018

        You’re not wrong about Trott’s. He can be remarkably clear sighted and astute in his writings. Comes up with some very thought provoking stuff at times.
        And then he’ll stick the tin-foil on and put out something so wildly conspiratorial and fanciful it makes you wonder if the guy is bi-polar.

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        • PDB

           /  October 25, 2018

          Trotter writes pretty well & he can be an enjoyable read but just as you get to the climax of his posts he suddenly comes to the opposite conclusion to the one he should have and then you realise why he is a left-winger.

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          • Corky

             /  October 25, 2018

            😄 But you are right – he’s a great read. A little too honest for the Left at times I would suspect.

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  6. robertguyton

     /  October 25, 2018

    “To the truly cynical, the sudden appearance, in the very midst of Ross’ jihad against his former National colleagues, of a sensational exposé detailing the Botany MP’s abusive and manipulative relationships with three parliamentary staffers and an unnamed National MP would elicit only the most sardonic of grins. If one was writing the script for such a political melodrama, the line given to Bridges would have to be: “Whew! That was lucky!”

    Just how lucky was revealed by TVNZ’s political editor, Jessica Mutch Mackay, on Tuesday evening (23/10/18) when she described how National’s numbers, in the Colmar-Brunton poll being conducted coincident with Jami-Lee’s jihad, were plummeting right up until the moment, mid-week, when the story detailing Ross’ improprieties began to dominate the headlines. The word “fortuitous” hardly seems to cover it!”
    ibid

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    • Gezza

       /  October 25, 2018

      This seems to be lacking some relevant context so is a little unclear – but is Ibid saying here that Bridges’ personal 7% support level in the final poll result was higher than it would have been had he not been subjected to Ross’s depredations?

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  October 25, 2018

      National and Bridges numbers fell significantly *when the accusations and phone call were first aired*, and then recovered somewhat when context came to light and JLR’s behaviour was revealed. This is not surprising really.

      “1 NEWS reported that support for National dropped below 40 per cent on Wednesday, when a recording was released in which Bridges making disparaging comments about National MP Maureen Pugh, and Bridges and Ross compared Chinese and Indian candidates.

      But support for National rose again on Thursday, after attention on allegations of Ross’ inappropriate behaviour came to the fore.”

      How this can be construed as fortuitous is beyond me. It does make it hard to get a gauge on where the party actually sits though, as the initial drop on the accusation coming to light still filters through into the end result.

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  7. robertguyton

     /  October 25, 2018

    “Fortunately, for the historical record, there is one person who knows a great deal about all of the events touched on in this post. Resting quietly, in an undisclosed but secure location, the MP for Botany, Jami-Lee Ross, waits patiently for all of these many questions to be put to him. How should we expect a man who has nothing left to lose to answer – except with the truth?”

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