Nation: Andrew Little on abortion law

The New Zealand Law Commission has made some suggestions on abortion law reform – see Law Commission – alternative approaches to abortion law overdue.

This morning on Newshub Nation (9:30 am) the Minister of Justice Andrew Little will be interviewed on this.

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  1. Missy

     /  October 27, 2018

    I have some concerns about liberalisation of abortion law. I am all for making it easier, removing the requirement for danger to mother or child as the only reason for abortion, but I recall that previously Labour have advocated for late term abortions, that is something I am very much against.

    In this day and age a woman can confirm she is pregnant quite early on, I see no reason why an abortion cannot be decided on and carried out in the first trimester. I don’t want to see late term abortions.

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    • NOEL

       /  October 27, 2018

      So yah for option C like Little?

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      • Missy

         /  October 27, 2018

        No, as model C will allow abortion up to 22 weeks gestation with no testing and the decision made by the woman, I think it should only be allowed up to 12 weeks gestation.

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        • Corky

           /  October 27, 2018

          I never thought much about abortion..to me it was a women’s choice. However, after watching a late term abortion, my support for abortion took a knock. In my opinion doctors performing late term abortions should be charged with murder unless there are good medical grounds.

          I still believe it’s a women’s choice, in line with my Libertarian principles. However, I would find it hard to respect any women proceeding with a late term abortion.

          No wonder some of them become mentally unwell down the track.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  October 27, 2018

      1. How will you define a “late term” abortion?
      2. What should happen when a woman has one?
      3. How will you deal with the grey areas?

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      • Missy

         /  October 27, 2018

        1. personally it will be anything over 12 weeks, but at a stretch I would go to 20 weeks.
        2. it shouldn’t be criminalised for the woman, if that is what you think I mean, I don’t think it should be allowed with no medical reason for it, at worst the doctor performing one with no medical reason should be sanctioned (not struck off).
        3. I assume you mean things like medical requirements? I concede I wasn’t clear in that, but if abortions are required later then 12 weeks then I think it needs to be medically approved by a doctor with a statutory test that needs to be satisfied.

        I don’t disagree with a woman’s right to have an abortion, but I don’t want to see abortion on demand for women, especially when they get past the 12 week mark, but there does need to be provision for women who need one past that on medical grounds.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 27, 2018

          As soon as you use the law to enforce social behaviour you encounter definition and boundary issues which inevitably result in serious harm to unfortunate individuals.

          I think treating it as a medical issue rather than a legal one is more likely to do good rather than harm.

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          • Chuck Bird

             /  October 27, 2018

            ” unfortunate individuals”

            Like a viable fetus?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  October 27, 2018

              Possibly but certainly not exclusively.

            • Griff.

               /  October 27, 2018

              Yess chuck.
              Do tell us how many unwanted baby’s you care for?*
              opps thats right once the baby is born who cares what happens.
              I have never got my head around the conservative concern for the unborn that stops once it is a screaming bundle of joy.

              In NZ it is not possible to abort a viable fetus that is an independent life.
              It may be possible in life threatening exceptional circumstance to get an abortion after 16 weeks and before the legal cut off at 20 weeks here in NZ.
              After 20 weeks you would have to go to AU if the medical grounds are that urgent as they are not preformed here under any circumstance.

              *Griffs family members foster unwanted baby’s for CYF’s and his family has permanently adopted one unfortunate child .

          • Chuck Bird

             /  October 27, 2018

            Griff, I am talking about the proposed law.

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  2. Blazer

     /  October 27, 2018

    I think this issue should be decided on by…women.

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    • Missy

       /  October 27, 2018

      Why only women? Are you saying fathers have no rights even at gestation?

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      • Blazer

         /  October 27, 2018

        no I’m saying its a woman’s body and each individual woman should make her own decision based on factors pertinent to her ..situation.

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    • Missy

       /  October 27, 2018

      This is (in my opinion) as much a man’s issue as a woman’s issue, it takes both to make a baby, surely both men and women should have a say in the laws around terminating it.

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      • Blazer

         /  October 27, 2018

        contraception should be a womans responsibility.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  October 27, 2018

          It becomes a father’s when he is responsible for supporting the child and mother.

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  3. Blazer

     /  October 27, 2018

    second thoughts…

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