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  1. Gezza

     /  October 31, 2018

    When I watched 1ewes on Demand last night they had an item about the Indonesian Lion Air Flight 904 which crashed on approach to Rai International Airport, Bali,the other day, killing everyone on board. As they showed a short video clip of covered stretchers being carried in, the female reporter said that they had “begun recovering human remains”.

    Dunno if it’s just me, but it was clear that there was a complete victim’s body in the body bag shown being respectfully conveyed to waiting transport. My heart went out to the families, in obvious distress, as any family would be.

    But it really irritates me, for some reason, when people use this awful blimmin Americanism “human remains”. The image that conjures up for me is that there is nothing recognisable as a person – only bits of bodies, maybe burnt tissue. It completely depersonalises that dead person, makes them sound like a just heap of dead tissue.

    It must be quite upsetting to hear the body of your lost loved one being described that way:
    “We are sorry for your loss, but we have recovered your loved one’s human remains and will be returning these for you to dispose of” is how it comes across to me. Why don’t they still say they have “begun recovering the bodies” of the victims of tragedies?

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    • Corky

       /  October 31, 2018

      I once said to somebody, have you ever thought, should you drop dead, you cease being a person and become a corpse? They asked why I thought of such shit. I wondered why myself.

      It’s good to know I’m not the only one who thinks a person should remain a person, even in death.

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  3. The Consultant

     /  October 31, 2018

    Strange how the Western MSM can erupt over somebody like Khashoggi and ignore other dissidents getting murdered or targeted for murder. Was it simply because he wrote the occasional article for the WaPo? As simple as that they met and talked with him at Washington soirees?

    Case in point. Here’s a photo of Maria Corina Machado, meeting then President Bush in 2005. She was then leading a Venezuelan NGO called Sumate, which has long pushed for fraud-free elections in that country.

    And here she is just the other day, having been beaten up by a group of pro-Maduro thugs. It’s a pretty sad comparison:

    She was encircled by Chavista thugs from Venezuela’s Cuban-directed secret service, known as SEBIN, and beaten up. It’s not the first time they have done this – Chavista thugs assaulted her in the legislature in 2015 and broke her nose. Foreign Policy at the time called her “Venezuela’s Marked Woman.” But this assault seems to have been even more deliberate and planned.
    …..
    “The young people who were accompanying me later told us that this time it was different because they somehow felt that they were beaten in order to separate them from me,” she said. “It’s like there was an order to attack me.”

    About eight of the attackers, including some women, managed to reach Machado. One of them pulled on her pony tail, wrenching her back.

    While one of the attackers held her from behind, others beat her with fists and clubs. A woman hit her on the head with a club, and she was also hit on the nose.

    Overall, about 20 people were injured or beaten during the attack, Machado said

    Does it not matter? Is the country that written off now by everybody? Or is it that she’s fighting against a regime that was being hailed by the Western Left just a few years ago?

    Whatever the reason, I think she’s going to die. Maduro will win this battle, even as his digusting communist government loses the war. But if she could get a lot of Western MSM coverage she’d have a better chance of living.

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    • Griff.

       /  October 31, 2018

      You do understand that there is a difference being murdered in an embassy dont you?
      #whataboutism.

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      • The Consultant

         /  October 31, 2018

        Salaciousness then? A variation on what’s “sexy” and what’s not in choosing what stories to cover?
        #doublestandards.

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  4. Blazer

     /  October 31, 2018

    ‘ One of them pulled on her pony tail, ‘….brutish,thuggish behaviour…then!

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    • The Consultant

       /  October 31, 2018

      Seen the photos of her? Blood and bruising. More your style I’m sure but since there’s little doubt that they Councilman Fernando Alban last month, they’ll do whatever they can get away with.

      The contradictions generated by the Venezuelan government do not corroborate the alleged suicide; everything indicates that Albán was killed by an official of the Bolivarian Intelligence Service (Sebin) while he was being tortured.

      Unless their crimes are exposed.

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  5. MaureenW

     /  October 31, 2018

    The media coverage of the Khashoggi case is indeed interesting, in that it stinks of a political hit, but not the hit exacted on Khashoggi. AlJazeera have given this almost 24/7 coverage but why?
    In my view the coverage seems to be more about Trump and whether he will revoke the arms deal that Obama negotiated and Trump increased the value of. Is it aimed at further harming Trump for the mid-terms – I see that Caravan should arrive just on time for the 6th November as well.

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    • Gezza

       /  October 31, 2018

      AlJazeera have given this almost 24/7 coverage but why?

      Some guesses:
      1. It’s unusual, and it’s happening in the world – specifically the Middle East.
      2. Saudi Arabia has long resented the influence that Qatar has with the US and the fact it has its biggest base in the Middle East there
      3. Qatar has good relations with almost every Middle Eastern and Muslim Country & the rest of the world, tries to keep dialogue open with representatives from warring factions & is a counterbalance to the aim of Saudi Arabia to dominate all the GCC countries.
      4. Qatar believes in maintaining dialogue with Iran. Saudi Arabia detests them for this.
      5. Saudi Arabia has been attempting to destabilise parts of the Middle East (including Yemen and Lebanon) to try and control them by proxy, Qatar speaks out about their crimes.
      6. Saudi Arabia manufactured blatant false information and accusations to justify forcing other Middle Eastern countries to blockade Qatar, ostensibly for reasons that they support terrorists and Iran, but in fact it is because they refuse to recognise Saudi dominance and allow Saudi to dictate their independent foreign policy.
      7. The blockade has been a failure:both Turkey and Iran came to their aid in making up shortfalls of goods and supplies and they are now even less reliant on Saudi or other GCC countries for things and closer to both Turkey and Iran. (They don’t support the Iranian regime, they are often critical of it or run factual neutral items on unrest – but they believe in keeping communication channels open and allow Doha to be used as a place for talks to continue).

      There’s probably a few more, just off the top of my head. Saudi Arabia has been exposed for what it really is like to everybody but Trump. (Kushner already knows, but has gone into hiding.) Naturally they will want to give this prominence, not just because of Khashoggi but because it supports their relationship with Turkey, shows how Erdogan is cleverly and slowly revealing to the World how utterly ruthless the “fine people” that Trump says run it & how incredibly baldly, and badly they lie – they are simply never to be trusted.

      As well, covering this story, like has happened all over the world, is prompting people to look and go: “Hey, let’s just look at all this other nasty shit this Crown Prince character has been up to since he basically started running the place. Do we want to be dealing with this prick?”

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      • MaureenW

         /  October 31, 2018

        Thanks for that Gezza, appreciate your response and it makes some sense of it to me

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      • MaureenW

         /  November 1, 2018

        Of course, as the Turks had the crime sorted minutes after it happened, I wonder why there are so many variations on what happened to Khashoggi? I see today’s episode is that he was strangled as soon as he entered the consulate. Last week he was tortured and Turkey has the tapes of him screaming. Then there’s the body disposal scenes, they’re as various as the method by which he puportedly died.

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        • Gezza

           /  November 1, 2018

          Yes – but think what the effect of this evolving continuing drama and the “unofficial” “anonymous official” leak horror stories has been. Erdogan knows exactly what he is doing and it has been a masterful strategy I think, Maureen – looked at purely objectively.

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