More ‘new information’ that prompted reconsideration of Sroubek residency

A report that there was more new information that prompted a reconsideration of the Sroubrek residency decision than that he had returned voluntarily to the Czech republic.

Newstalk ZB: Details surrounding Karel Sroubek’s residency revealed

Yesterday, Newstalk ZB revealed Sroubek had allegedly returned to the Czech Republic since arriving to New Zealand, which went against the suggestion the residency was for his protection.

Newstalk ZB can exclusively reveal the change in circumstance that could see controversial criminal Karel Sroubek lose his residency.

Newstalk ZB political editor Barry Soper understands the new information, which has sparked the change of heart, centres on Sroubek’s now ex-wife.

Initially, she supported Sroubek’s case for residency and said she was happy for him to stay in the country once he was released from jail, where he is currently serving a sentence for importing drugs.

This is believed to be the information Lees-Galloway used to make his decision.

However, the wife is now in the process of taking out a restraining order against Sroubek.

The decision came as news to Lees-Galloway, and he is now reviewing his decision.

See Immigration Minister to reconsider Sroubek residency decision

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74 Comments

  1. Corky

     /  November 1, 2018

    1-Meka.
    2- Clare.
    3-Lees-Galloway.
    4-Hipkins.
    5-?

    Maybe Robert could explain this sad state of governmental incompetence?

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    • Gezza

       /  November 1, 2018

      I’m still trying to work out which post on Sroubeck to say what on.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  November 1, 2018

      Whens JLR back from the funny farm and whens Judith Collins fresh from cyberbullying young New Zealanders going to attempt to roll the tempory leader of the opposition Simon Bridges

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      • Corky

         /  November 1, 2018

        Yes..well…OK..good first-up post, Lurchy.

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      • Ray

         /  November 1, 2018

        When is the PM going to report back on the Meka Whaitiri leak, you remember the one that jumped the gun and was going to be held back the three weeks it was going to take to remove any hints on who was hurt.

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        • robertguyton

           /  November 1, 2018

          Simon’s expenses leak is still unresolved, Ray. He believed it terribly important, but hasn’t definitively answered the whodunit. Must have cost a pretty penny, that witch-hunt of his. All for nought.

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          • Gezza

             /  November 1, 2018

            Simon’s expenses leak is still unresolved, Ray.
            Nah, personally, robert, I reckon it pretty much is.

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            • To whose satisfaction? Certainly not a judges. Simon’s, maybe, but he’s got skin in the game. Innocent till proven, I reckon. Not that it matters. It was a minor issue of no real interest. Or far greater interest to me was the sight revealed when the curtain was drawn back a little, in the Nat’s changing room. Pants all around ankles.

            • Gezza

               /  November 1, 2018

              To mine and I think probably to National’s caucus and the party hierarchy. They might keep scanning quietly for other malignant echos but I reckon they got the right cuckoo. Naturally you will be automatically peeing yourself with unrestrained glee at the exposure of your enemies’ undies.

          • High Flying Duck

             /  November 1, 2018

            Simon’s expenses were never an issue Robert. Even Jacinda said it was a ridiculous beat up. The only issue with the expenses was the early leak.
            Are you thinking of the donations? That is a non-issue in my eyes, but it is still unresolved as the police are looking into it.

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  November 1, 2018

          It was released at the beginning of October Ray:

          A redacted version of a report into an allegation of staff bullying against former government minister Meka Whaitiri has finally been released.

          The report, by Wellington lawyer David Patten, confirms what was said in a Herald report which said the new staff member was left with bruising after the encounter with Whaitiri at an event attended by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern in Gisborne on August 27.

          “After giving careful consideration to this matter, it is my view that the explanation provided to me by Employee A is a more probable explanation as to what happened than the explanation provided to me by the Minister. That is, rather than the encounter between the two of them in the foyer being a face to face encounter as described to me by the Minister, the Minister in fact approached Employee A from slightly behind and grabbed Employee A by the arm,” Patten said in the report.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12137532

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        • duperez

           /  November 1, 2018

          ?

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    • Corky

       /  November 1, 2018

      6- Andy.
      7- Davis.

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      • Gezza

         /  November 1, 2018

        Andy got made a wally of by Winston over announcing the government intended repealing the 3 strikes law. But to be honest, anyone can be the victim of treachery – after being misled by Winnie for a headline – at any time – and Little seems to be doing ok in other areas so far.

        (Apart from wasting a fucking fortune on a champagne & caviar Crime Solutions Talk Fest that was a further embarrassment he’s admitted to – & ritually slagged off his officials for, in the time-honoured tradition of most Ministers in trouble. It likely won’t happen again. And it probably WAS their fault. They’re the ones who most often completely ignore that they’re spending the taxpayer’s dollars.)

        I think he’ll end up doing well or at least be generally well-regarded by the great unwashed swing voters, the likely key to the universe next election.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  November 1, 2018

      So is the foreign multable sex offender allowed to stay here by National still here and has he raped another New Zealander asking for a friend

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  November 1, 2018

        Was there one? That Woodhouse allowed to stay?

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        • Blazer

           /  November 1, 2018

          Woodhouse overturned 108 deportation orders…no doubt with good reason,relying on information he had at the time.

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          • High Flying Duck

             /  November 1, 2018

            And none have come back to bite him, so he probably did his job properly.

            This case is a debacle and ILG went against the advice from a number of Justice agencies in making his decision. We could still be missing something of course, but it seems like an out and out cock up at this stage.

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            • duperez

               /  November 1, 2018

              Some of the fuss is the danger that Sroubek is likely to pose. Separating any fear from the politics is hard.

              One person allowed to remain under Woodhouse’s watch went to prison for kidnapping and indecently assaulting a six-year-old girl. I wonder if those fuming at the danger of Sroubek are concerned about that.

              Another one: In February 2013 Sultan Ali Abdul Ali Akbari indecently assaulted a woman and was convicted.

              In 2015 he was jailed for two years and one month for five charges of indecent acts on girls aged 8 and 10 and indecently assaulting an 18-year-old.

              That offending happened while Akbari was on bail awaiting trial on the 2013 charge.

              Immigration New Zealand granted him deportation liability suspension.

              That meant he coukldn’t be deported for five years and that decision would only be reviewed if he was convicted of a new offence.

              Michael Woodhouse met with Immigration New Zealand to discuss a parole change for that individual after further fears for public safety but didn’t seek a review of the deportation liability suspension.

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11848738

              The job of Michael Woodhouse is politics and that is what he is playing. Those who proclaim the danger of Sroubek and the processes of Lees-Galloway while not having reservations about the decision making of Woodhouse are the same.

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 1, 2018

              That’s accurate Parti, other than the fact Woodhouse was prevented by law from reviewing or overturning the decisions made by officials.
              He did however suspend their decision making powers to ensure better decisions were made in the future.

      • Gezza

         /  November 1, 2018

        Does this mean at the next election you will be voting against the Party whose Minister allowed him to stay, Lurchy? Two votes for the reprehensible Winnie’s crew next time, perhaps?

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    • robertguyton

       /  November 1, 2018

      Yes, Corky, I could.

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  2. Ray

     /  November 1, 2018

    It seems Union hacks just aren’t up to running things, who knew!

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    • Gezza

       /  November 1, 2018

      A small number of cock-upsby relatively new Ministers are generally forgiveable by the great unwashed early in the piece – as long as there’s not also string of them in the lead-up to an election.

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 1, 2018

        Ah! Don’t need to, Gezza has!

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        • Gezza

           /  November 1, 2018

          I’m not just another pretty face, robert. 😎

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  November 1, 2018

            Hard to tell with those shades on.

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            • Gezza

               /  November 1, 2018

              You don’t fool me, bucko. I’ve still got the email where you and Karen both said that was a lovely photo of me with the two tan and white collies. And if Karen says that was a lovely photo of me, then I must look great – and you can tell her that! 😀

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  November 1, 2018

              Beauty and modesty !

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  November 1, 2018

              Possibly has plenty to be modest about, Kitty. My working hypothesis is that Karen liked the dogs.

            • Gezza

               /  November 1, 2018

              Too late, Al. And pathetic too. And I still have the evidence.
              I win again. You know it dude. 😎

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  November 1, 2018

              Sir Gerald will never recover from his intimate recording HFD unkindly published:

            • Gezza

               /  November 1, 2018

              Too late and obviously not a vid of me. Your delusions are getting stronger by the day, it appears.

              In terms of my looks, happy to rely on the judgement of your good lady, referred to above. Obviously a woman of taste and discernment. Shame about the husband. But there ya go. It happens. 😉

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  November 1, 2018

          The beauty and modesty remark referred to them.

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    • Blazer

       /  November 1, 2018

      bring back Buck..I mean…Murray!

      Reply
  3. PartisanZ

     /  November 1, 2018

    The “more new information” referred to is simply public backlash, surely?

    The worst thing about this is that it looks like what the Key National government did SO MANY TIMES!

    Backtrack follows backlash …

    I guess that’s normal and human?

    But where’s the considered decision-making to begin with?

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    • Gezza

       /  November 1, 2018

      No. There is reference above to significant new information by his wife, which you must have read, surely? There was also reference by National yesterday on Te News to some evidence that despite supposedly being in fear of his life should he return to the Czech Republic, he has actually been back there.

      It might pay to wait for more to come out – but I think your transumption that it is only public backlash that is the new information is ill-conceived and driven perhaps by various prejudicial worldviews.

      It is unlikely Lees-Galloway would be bothered by public backlash when he went against virulently anti-free speech lefties to allow Molyneux and Southern to come here and be abused.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  November 1, 2018

      I wouldn’t have thought so. The backlash was surely predictable. Discovering he had been back to the country he was supposedly at risk from and that his wife was taking out a restraining order against him – apparently not so much.

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      • Gezza

         /  November 1, 2018

        Surely PZ would have read the post without just rushing to post a comment with no fucking clue what it was about?

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        • Dave K

           /  November 1, 2018

          I’m surprised PZ didn’t wheel out the old “Codswallop” again like a couple of days ago.

          FMS I laughed at that. It’s the 21st century boss…we’ve got electricity, new words and don’t even have to write with quills anymore. The only person I knew who called codswallop on things was my great aunt who is tucked up in Ryman now quiety dribbling in the corner. Same demographic I guess….

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          • Gezza

             /  November 1, 2018

            Some of us are still rather fond of: Balderdash !, must admit.
            🐧 Sir Gerald 🐧

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  November 1, 2018

            I’ve definitely deployed codswallop on appropriate occasions though currently have a preference for b>claptrap. Depends on how pretentious the target is.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  November 1, 2018

              Oops, typing with a bandaged finger isn’t conducive to html accuracy.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  November 1, 2018

              I like the word codswallop; it just sounds like what is is. ‘What a load of codswallop.’ Balderdash and claptrap are classics, too, some things never change.

              Cobblers is less refined, but very expressive.

            • robertguyton

               /  November 1, 2018

              Kitty – you clearly don’t know what “codswallop” refers to, or at least the best interpretation of the word. Isn’t Captain Pugwash a character and a half!

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  November 1, 2018

              Codswallop doesn’t have an obscene origin, if that’s what you’re getting at. You may be confusing it with poppycock.

              I don’t know anything about Captain Pugwash.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  November 1, 2018

            But Captain Hogwash is alive and well and posting on YNZ under the name of (ahem) Five letters, pink avatar….POP !

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  4. “Espiner-“Well, in your time in office you didn’t deport the man.”
    Bridges- “Well, the Minister acted on the advice given.”
    Espiner- “Well, what’s different, now?””
    ‘K.

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    • Corky

       /  November 1, 2018

      The difference is quite simple, Robert.

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 1, 2018

        Give ‘er all y’ve got, Corkyo!

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        • Corky

           /  November 1, 2018

          Robo..you posted. I’m waiting for the answer. Be a devil. Tell us the difference. Imagine you are waxing lyrical over the JLR affair. 😄

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 1, 2018

        ““Well, the Minister acted on the advice given.””
        ““Well, the Minister acted on the advice given.””
        ““Well, the Minister acted on the advice given.””

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        • Corky

           /  November 1, 2018

          No. But I’ll get back to you. Just had some plants turn up from Parti’s part of Aotearoa. Freight is a killer.

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  November 1, 2018

      Not sure what the Espiner interview was about, but Immigration officials have confirmed they never brought up Sroubek with any previous minister before ILG, so Woodhouse had no opportunity to do anything about it.

      The guy came in to NZ under a false passport while Labour were in. He was discharged without conviction for a crime while National were in which didn’t trigger deportation reviews, and the shit hit the fan…this week.

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 1, 2018

        His country hadn’t requested extradition.
        That’s all.

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  November 1, 2018

          Extradition now? Labour have denied that is the case, although others have reported that extradition has been requested.

          When National’s Justice spokesman Mark Mitchell asked Justice Minister Andrew Little if there was an extradition request for outstanding criminal proceedings against Sroubek, he replied: “No”.
          ” … The fact of the matter is there has been no extradition request from the Czech Republic to New Zealand in relation to Mr Sroubek’. (Little said)

          Who knows what tomorrows story will be eh?

          But Woodhouse couldn’t do anything about a person he had no idea existed.

          ILG probably should have thought twice about a gang banging drug dealer in jail as being the ideal new citizen.

          Jacinda also didn’t exactly cover herself in glory by saying “if he offends again it is on him, not us!”.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  November 1, 2018

            There’s no answer to that, is there?

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          • robertguyton

             /  November 1, 2018

            “others have reported that extradition has been requested.”
            Who?
            Was it backed by… evidence??
            Nope.

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            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 1, 2018

              “The Parole Board also noted Sroubek’s close association with the Hells Angels and that the Czech Republic were still seeking his extradition, which had been on hold until a decision had been made on deportation.

              While it hasn’t been explicitly stated by Immigration Minister Lees-Galloway, it seems he was persuaded to cancel the deportation of Sroubek because of his evidence about why he fled from the Czech Republic.”

            • High Flying Duck

               /  November 1, 2018

              “National leader Simon Bridges also asked why the Government was ignoring the Czech Republic’s request for extradition.

              Peters’ response cited privacy provisions in the interests of the safety of others.”

            • Gezza

               /  November 1, 2018

              I expect robert will be apologising for his gross error & thus wasted sarcasm in respect of this matter imminently.

            • There was no request for extradition.

            • robertguyton

               /  November 1, 2018

              There was notification that extradition was being considered. There was no request for extradition.
              Help me, Jesus.

            • Gezza

               /  November 1, 2018

  5. Patzcuaro

     /  November 1, 2018
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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  November 1, 2018

      Never an Emmerson fan but a) the Minister’s not in a corner since he’s reviewing the decision and b) his department overlooked the pertinent facts they should have known and caused the SNAFU.

      So apart from getting everything wrong as usual it’s a good cartoon.

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  6. Blazer

     /  November 1, 2018

    criminals and con artists must think NZ is a real sleepy backwater..when it comes to PR.
    Standard claim..I will be persecuted/killed if you send me back..ignore the circumstance of my arrival..both National and Labour are guilty of inconsistent application of deportation orders.

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