Ardern has confidence in Minister of Immigration

It will be annoying for Jacinda Ardern and Labour to have the immigration and deportation thing hanging over their conference weekend, but it is an unresolved issue that deserves more answers.

She should be disappointed.

Duncan Garner (Stuff):  Dear Iain, your shocker continues to seep

Bet this wasn’t how your Labour mates saw this weekend’s party conference playing out.

Can’t imagine, Iain, you’ll be dragged up on the stage as ministerial eye-candy either.

Standing ovation anyone? Iain Lees-Galloway for services to a foreign crook and an unsafer New Zealand.

They’re hard places to hide those party conferences too.  Unlike parliament, the pillars to hide behind are few and far between, so just keep expanding the designer beard, it’ll soon envelop you.

John Roughan (NZH): Czech ‘refugee’ shows Government needs better judgment

Putting aside all we know about Karel Sroubek now, it is easy to say the crimes Lees-Galloway knew about ought to have outweighed the risk to the life of a drug importer with gang associations. But did they really? Often it is not until you sit in a decision making chair that the right course of action becomes clear.

To my mind the significance of the crimes for this decision was the question they raised about Sroubek’s honesty and therefore the credibility of his claim to be in mortal danger in the Czech Republic. Lees-Galloway ought to have asked his officials to check that claim more closely. Had he done so, they would easily have discovered the court records showing he’d been back to his homeland on business at least once, albeit under the false name he was using when he entered New Zealand.

It is easy to blame Immigration officials for not doing these checks of their own accord but again, it’s the person in the hot seat who can see these needs clearest. It worries me that Lees-Galloway did not ask enough questions of this supposed refugee and surprises me that Jacinda Ardern was so quick to endorse his decision on Monday. A Prime Minister occupies the ultimate hot seat and is usually hyper-alert to political danger.

This issue will be ongoing pending the up to 3 week inquiry ordered by Lees-Galloway.

Laura Walters:  Immigration Minister in a precarious position

Immigration Minister Iain Lees-Galloway will be stuck between a rock and a hard place for as long as three weeks, as questions hang over his decision to grant residency to a convicted drug smuggler and gangster.

Lees-Galloway has spent the past week trying to explain his discretionary decision to grant Karel Sroubek residency – but without actually divulging any of the details of the case.

This has left him stuck in a politically precarious position where, upon legal advice, he is refusing to answer any substantive questions on the controversial issue. But the risk of making a further mess of things by spilling his secrets is much greater.

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48 Comments

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  2. Corky

     /  November 3, 2018

    The curse of Labour strikes again. Their propensity to self immolate even when political fortune favours them is legendary.

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  November 3, 2018

    Yawn the scandal after the Simon Bridges scandal after the JLR scandal, whats next weeks scandal, maybe the rapist Afghan commits another sexual assault

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  November 3, 2018

      Try comparing ILG personal decision, made under his own discretion, with a decision actually made by Woodhouse or Coleman, rather than one made by officials.

      Reply
  4. -D

     /  November 3, 2018

    New faces and extended panel time, and seemingly improved interviewing attitude, are making Newshub Nation a useful and informative program once again.

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    • Corky

       /  November 3, 2018

      They have improved their 6pm daily news roundup, too. I have dumped One News.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  November 3, 2018

        You’d better tell them, they’ll want to know that.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  November 3, 2018

          They use BIG words on TV1

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  November 3, 2018

            That explains it.

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          • Corky

             /  November 3, 2018

            Yes, big words with three items of news. Double whammy for you there, Lurchy.
            Grammar plus Mathematics. I now see why you stick with Home And Away.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  November 3, 2018

              Is that a soap opera ? It sounds like one, but you would know. I suppose that someone has to watch them, but I don’t. I don’t imagine that Lurch and RED do, either. .

  5. robertguyton

     /  November 3, 2018

    Keep flogging’ it, Pete!

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    • Going by the ongoing amount of media attention and the amount of commenting this issue has a while to go yet. Grizzling about discussing it won’t magic it away.

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  6. artcroft

     /  November 3, 2018

    This is government? No wonder none of the CoL want their party’s name headlining this act.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 3, 2018

      She may have confidence in him, not many other people have These things are not ones that were beyond his control, which can happen to anyone, they are sloppiness and carelessness.

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    • Corky

       /  November 3, 2018

      Well, yes, maybe if you are a Labour supporter. But to a Rightie it’s a monumental cock-up that needs exposing for the incompetence it is.

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    • PDB

       /  November 3, 2018

      Jacinda Ardern says the public shouldn’t judge her Government on how it’s handled the Karel Sroubek affair so far, or how they handled the Derek Handley affair, or how they handled the oil & gas ban, or how Labour handled the sexual assault allegations, or how she handled Clare Curran, or how she handled Meka, or how she handled low business & consumer confidence, or how they handled…

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    • Blazer

       /  November 3, 2018

      National in Govt…left hand didn’t know what the right hand was…doing..

      ‘Mr Delamere, former National immigration minister in the 1990s, said there was no indication Sroubek was not Jan Antolik, the name he was using at the time.

      He said Sroubek should have been deported as soon as it was discovered in 2009 that he was using a fake passport, or when he was charged. National was in government at that time.

      Mr Delamere said the minister at the time could still have deported him even though he was discharged without conviction.

      “It should never have been on [Iain Lees-Galloway’s] desk in the first place.”

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  November 3, 2018

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      • Corky

         /  November 3, 2018

        I think you missed the point, Blazer. You are one of that handful..along with Robert below.
        Even if you were right, who’s looking in Nationals direction apart from a few Die Hards?

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        • robertguyton

           /  November 3, 2018

          “who’s looking in Nationals direction”
          True. They’re a spent force.

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      • PDB

         /  November 3, 2018

        Blazer: “National in Govt…left hand didn’t know what the right hand was…doing..”

        The Col govt don’t even have hands, just two left feet they attempt to put in their mouth on a daily basis.

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        • robertguyton

           /  November 3, 2018

          What a daft statement. Sits well here though.

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          • Gezza

             /  November 3, 2018

            Why do you think that?

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            • robertguyton

               /  November 3, 2018

              PDB said:
              “The Col govt don’t even have hands, just two left feet they attempt to put in their mouth on a daily basis.”
              I responded; “What a daft statement. Sits well here though.”
              Gazza asked:”Why do you think that?”
              Because PDB’s claim is …daft and sits well with his and others’ daft claims here.

            • Gezza

               /  November 3, 2018

              How in god’s name do you come to that conclusion?
              It doesn’t sit very well at all with all your daft claims here, for a start.

            • robertguyton

               /  November 3, 2018

              You don’t think PDB’s claim: “The Col govt don’t even have hands, just two left feet they attempt to put in their mouth on a daily basis.”
              is daft?

            • Gezza

               /  November 3, 2018

              No. I think it’s quite funny.

              I don’t agree with it entirely, but until JLR went for Bridges’ jugular & shat all over himself, Jacinda and Labour had been lurching from one embarrassing disaster (violent bullying Minister, dodgy Deputy Police Commissioner appointment process, Clare Curran fiasco; most secret government ever, can’t remember the others) and been out caught out telling porkies several times – so much so that even the normally besotted msm, even, 1ewes was calling it her “horror month” – they certainly did seem to be opening their mouths and putting their feet in it – to use the colloquial expression.

              I can’t remember National ever having had quite such a collection of so many embarrassments in such a short time. Theirs tended to be spread out over longer periods.

  9. robertguyton

     /  November 3, 2018

    “He said Sroubek should have been deported as soon as it was discovered in 2009 that he was using a fake passport, or when he was charged. National was in government at that time.”
    Yup.

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  November 3, 2018

      But INZ didn’t bring it to the Minister’s attention. You are barking up a tree that doesn’t exist.

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      • Corky

         /  November 3, 2018

        Pete has delivered utu.

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      • Blazer

         /  November 3, 2018

        INZ officials were incompetent…then.

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        • High Flying Duck

           /  November 3, 2018

          Which is very different to “blame the Nats!”.
          INL hasn’t come out looking great, and ILG has come out looking incompetent. There’s no need to cast aspersions elsewhere.

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 3, 2018

        The Minister’s responsible…but only when National are in Opposition.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  November 3, 2018

          That seems to be Miss Ardern’s policy, anyway.

          She has definitely dropped Immigration right in it. She is taking a real risk by doing that, I think, it’s very obvious that they are being used as scapegoats, and no amount of waving the baby around will take attention away from that.

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          • robertguyton

             /  November 3, 2018

            Does “she” wave her baby around? Or are you using hysterical language, Kitty?

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  November 3, 2018

              Well, it was there being brandished like a trophy….

            • robertguyton

               /  November 3, 2018

              Trophy? The baby? In your mind, Kitty. Only in your mind. Others more balanced saw it as … a baby.

            • Gezza

               /  November 3, 2018

              Nah … tbh, poor little Neve was being used as a prop for photo ops. Haven’t seen any MP dads hawking their babies around like that. Gayford was supposed be just sitting quietly in the background mothering the child, like all the other MPs mums do.

            • robertguyton

               /  November 3, 2018

              “Prop” – that’s a daft claim, as is, “Gayford was supposed be just sitting quietly in the background mothering the child”. Was he? by whose reckoning? Yours? Kitty’s? If you can link to his claim, or Jacinda’s claim that he would be, ” just sitting quietly in the background mothering the child”, I’ll shower you with praise. If not…

            • Gezza

               /  November 3, 2018

              Let me explain how I operate, robert, as this may assist in your feedback:

              A No of fucks given for whether people praise me or not
              -2
              B No of fucks given for whether plonkers praise me or not
              A x 1000
              C No fucks given for whether you praise me or not
              -2000

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