Whale Oilers fed up with Whale Oil attempts to push JLR agenda

For about a week Cameron Slater pushed the Jami-Lee Ross agenda hard, then suddenly and mysteriously last week dropped out of sight. That could be through illness, or it could be a stunt. Whale Oil management has not informed the loyal following that remains (numbers suggest many have given up on Slater and WO) what is going on. Slater’s name is being used to promote a mail order meat business but otherwise has gone to ground.

SB has tried to keep stoking the Ross agenda, using similar techniques to Slater to smear and threaten by insinuation (presuming it is her writing the posts, uncertain authorship has long been a WO thing).

But apart from a few die hard supporters and sock puppets SB and Ross are getting a negative message from commenters at WO.

A post today:  How long can Simon Bridges avoid questions about Jami-Lee Ross?

Simon Bridges is trying the strategy of refusing to answer any more questions about Jami-Lee Ross.

This is not going to work out well for him. The media are following every tweet from Ross and are publishing it within minutes. Then there are the other questions the media want answers to.

Who is she trying to fool? Most of the media are over it. And going by this, so are the Oilers:

WIC:

I have said it before and I will say it aging. Except for the media, No One Cares.

rantykiwi:

I actually feel that ignoring the yappy little JLR who hasn’t yet managed to back up his words with evidence isn’t a bad strategy.

omlete:

from the transcript published yesterday it seemed like Simon and Paula were being pretty kind to JLR.

Jman:

I think the JLR story is pretty much over with the general consensus being that JLR has acted like a boofhead and Bridges and Bennett have come away relatively unscathed. If I’m being perfectly honest, I actually think Bridges appears to have handled this whole thing with some integrity. I say this as someone who has never been a Bridges fan.

kayaker:

If some people in the media persist in giving this oxygen (stalking JLR’s Twitter and reporting every little tweet, how sad are they), I hope they feel proud of themselves when JLR hits the wall again.

DJG:

I think ignoring JLR is the right strategy for now.
If he returns to parliament and starts to release more “tales out of school” I think the public will lose interest in him very quickly. It will not help his chances of re-election in Botany.
If he starts to “lift the bed sheets” on National the best solution would be to drop a current journo’s past in to the mix, the media will soon stop prodding JLR for gossip

Des:

It’s incredible how long the media have spent on this non-issue, as opposed to their efforts dissecting Labor’s policies…

Osiris:

Absolutely the right strategy.They should have started earlier, though. Nothing magic. It’s just the ‘in a hole, stop digging’ advice. Don’t comment and you can’t be questioned further. Well done Simon et al – at last.

Geoffrey Firmin:

I’m with Simon on this. I’ve read my last article about J-L Ross. I’d never heard of him until he went on mental health leave a few weeks ago. He’s a nobody getting far too much attention.

sarahmw:

And he has given his proxy vote to NZFirst ?Now why would Winston want or need that? I felt sorry for the guy but this dripfeeding of so called info is not helping him. I’m over it and hope the people advising JLR encourage him to take the time to get well.

Second time around:

The main thing the JLR saga has done is raise Dirty Politics again along with the Exclusive Brethren and the murky National Party back history. To a swing voter that is all poison and will undermine Judith Collins’ prospects of ever becoming party leader and PM.

kayaker:

Bridges has read it pretty well. People are over it. Those who remain interested strike me as ambulance chasers who have a ghoulish interest without any concern for the mental health of Jami-Lee Ross. This is another disaster (for JLR) waiting to happen and I hope someone who cares can get to him and help him soon. I’ve said before that I really feel for his family (especially his children), it’s hard to fathom that he wants to keep hurting them.

It looks like Whale Oil management has lost their own base on this, following eighteen months of pissing off their base with a torrent of attacks on National while promoting NZ First – who have decided to proxy vote for Ross in Parliament.

Slater and Peters supporting the most toxic MP in Parliament, while the Whale Oilers send a clear message they are over it all. If Whale Oil keeps trying to flog National dead all they may have to flog off is a dead whale without ant meat.

They have proven the blog can survive without Slater, sort of, but if they keep trying to be lame versions of dirt mongers they may become the tumbleweed.

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11 Comments

  1. wooden goat

     /  November 7, 2018

    I have *no interest* in JLR (beyond simply hoping that he recovers).
    As for Simon Bridges – meh. Everything that could be said about him has been said. He’s *weak* – end of story.

    The only person in the Nats with a spine is Crusher, and if they persist in staying with the “spineless option” for leader then they’ll have another three years getting used to the Opposition benches.

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    • Gezza

       /  November 7, 2018

      Crusher is loathsome and loathed with a passion by all but the hard core right wing authoritarian noddies in National. Up against Ardern? Nah.

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  2. Gezza

     /  November 7, 2018

    “DJG:

    I think ignoring JLR is the right strategy for now.
    If he returns to parliament and starts to release more “tales out of school” I think the public will lose interest in him very quickly. It will not help his chances of re-election in Botany.
    If he starts to “lift the bed sheets” on National the best solution would be to drop a current journo’s past in to the mix, the media will soon stop prodding JLR for gossip.
    . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    Works for me. I’m really keen to know who the bed-hopping journos & tv reporters are now.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 7, 2018

      I used to know all that sort of thing when I was with my ex. One of the worst ones was my ex’s brother.

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  3. Blazer

     /  November 7, 2018

    agree with this…
    ‘I think the JLR story is pretty much over with the general consensus being that JLR has acted like a boofhead and Bridges and Bennett have come away relatively unscathed. If I’m being perfectly honest, I actually think Bridges appears to have handled this whole thing with some integrity. I say this as someone who has never been a Bridges fan.’

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    • Gezza

       /  November 7, 2018

      Yep. I reckon if a colmar brunton was taken right now Bridges’ rating might even go up a bit. He’s still virtually unlikely to make it to the next election but he’s picking up sympathy votes from people I talk to who say they voted National, don’t like him as LOTO, but think he’s been shafted, that he’s as honest a bloke as any politician can (no shortage of them pointing out the porkies Jacinda’s been telling) and stood up to it well.

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    • Corky

       /  November 7, 2018

      If English was in Bridges place..the tape would have started with a ‘beep’ and end with a ‘beep.’

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  4. PDB

     /  November 7, 2018

    It’s funny to see Cam Slater in agreement with the far-left in terms of the JLR saga being some massive scandal that would ultimately sink National. Suddenly Slater was not so awful to these people and absolutely believable. Some went as far as to say (hope) Sir John Key would be unmasked by JLR as the devil himself.

    In the end most people without an axe to grind couldn’t give a shit and those who did ended up having more sympathy for Bridges than Ross. One only wonders how the remaining Whalers can continue to frequent Whaleoil.

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    • Blazer

       /  November 7, 2018

      Slater is a typical right wing advocate..’run with the hares ..chase with the hounds’..a fairweather ‘friend’…National pragmatism… 😉

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  5. Loki

     /  November 7, 2018

    Just paying the rent.

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