Ross to stand for NZ First in Botany – plan or joke?

It is easy to take this comment as a bit of a joke:

Funny thought ….. JLR jumps to NZF, a bit of theatre from Winny on saying XYZ, then JLR enters a by-election … wins for NZF and gets a plumb role in govt.

Oh so so funny

That seems ridiculous, but lets join a few dots.

That was said by someone with a close association with Cameron Slater.

Early last year Winston Peters’ lawyer represented Slater in his defamation case versus Colin Craig (unsuccessfully).

For many years Slater had criticised and ridiculed Peters, but suddenly last year switched to supporting Peters and NZ First through the election campaign. This may have simply been a way of trying to damage Bill English and National, who he had fallen out with, but it did raise some questions of why the sudden switch.

This year Slater has continued to attack National, and has attacked Simon Bridges since he took over the leadership.

When Jami-Lee Ross was ejected from the National caucus and took leave from Parliament (again) Slater became prominent in his support of Ross, and used information and secret recordings from Ross to attack Bridges and National. Some of Slater’s Whale Oil helpers have continued with their anti-bridges/National agenda.

Yesterday Peters announced that NZ First would proxy vote for Ross in Parliament – see NZ First proxy voting for Jami-lee Ross. Peters sounded uncomfortable trying to explain this unusual arrangement.

RNZ:  NZ First to hold Jami-Lee Ross’ proxy vote

Speaking to reporters at Parliament, Mr Peters said the decision was made in the “spirit of representation” to ensure Botany voters were heard in Parliament.

“We’re not here to kick the National Party,” Mr Peters said.

“We are here to say to the people of Botany… you deserve to have your voice heard.”

As long as Ross stays away from Parliament the voice of the people won’t be heard in Parliament, so this is a strange claim – unless Peters is just trying to impress Botany voters perhaps.

Back to the ‘funny’ comment – I would have thought that Peters was too politically astute to stand Parliament’s most discredited MP for NZ First in a by-election. But Slater and his mates could be silly enough to think it is a cunning plan. He and the person who made the comment have histories of trying some fairly stupid stunts.

I guess anything is possible but it is very hard to see Ross stand any chance if he tried to keep his Botany seat, even if he happens to recover from his claimed health problems in time for the campaign – someone who is unable to do their job in Parliament would struggle to get votes in an electorate.

Peters must realise this, so it’s hard to see him going for this unless he thought it was a way to kick National – when he says something like “We’re not here to kick the National Party” that raises suspicions that that is exactly what his intention actually is, akin to his ‘with the greatest respect’ comments.

It would be remarkable if Ross could get anywhere near close to winning Botany.

If he somehow managed that, getting “a plumb role in govt” would also be a stretch. That would mean he would take over responsibilities of a current NZ First minister, which would be unlikely to go down well. And Labour would be nuts to accept Ross in their Cabinet.

So this all seems to be a big joke – except that I wouldn’t put it past Slater and his mates to think it was a cunning plan.

It would go something like this:

  • Ross too sick to attend Parliament
  • NZ First proxy votes for Ross
  • Ross resigns from Parliament
  • Ross now not sick and stands for NZ First in Botany by-election, and wins
  • Ross appointed Cabinet Minister, replacing Tracey Martin as Minister of Children and Minister of (Internal) Affairs

Yes, it’s a joke.

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24 Comments

  1. Gerrit

     /  November 8, 2018

    Biggest stretch of the imagination is Ross winning the Botany seat for NZFirst.

    Especially if National puts up a well respected candidate like Daniel Newman.

    How double faced would it be for Peters to accept a stray MP from another party whilst maintaining a straight face with the waka jumping bill?

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    • duperez

       /  November 8, 2018

      Biggest stretch of the imagination is Ross winning the Botany seat. Under any label.

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      • Gezza

         /  November 8, 2018

        Damn straight dupers ! 👍

        Suppose he might get his own vote and maybe his estranged wife’s – but that 2nd one could be a big question mark.

        And if the prick had any integrity he wouldn’t vote for himself.

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    • Blazer

       /  November 8, 2018

      National just need to put up another China man.
      They’re already paid for an half the electorate is..Asian.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  November 8, 2018

        PLUMB role ???

        Does that mean that his career as an MP is down the dunny ?

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  November 8, 2018

          Asian doesn’t mean Chinese; Asia is a huge place with many countries in it and Asian is not a nationality any more than European is.

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  2. David

     /  November 8, 2018

    Its a funny old situation where Peters was really smacked on WO and in a personal way and then all of a sudden the world changed…I think its pretty obvious why.

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  4. High Flying Duck

     /  November 8, 2018

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  5. unitedtribes2

     /  November 8, 2018

    and what was the urgent meeting with NZ first last weekend about

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  6. robertguyton

     /  November 8, 2018

    Imagine how focused Ross will be on the campaign to win Botany and how hard he and his supporters will play to win the seat! Given that Lack et al are very experienced at winning seats for their clients, the chances of Ross winning are very high, Imo.

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    • Gezza

       /  November 8, 2018

      Who’s Lack?

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      • unitedtribes2

         /  November 8, 2018

        Lacklushter

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 8, 2018

        Lack? Lack Lustre, you know him? Nah. Spell check twisted Lusk into Lack. Or some distractions at this end; grandson, visitor…

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    • Alloytoo

       /  November 8, 2018

      “chances of Ross winning are very high, Imo.”

      Most Botany residents thought Ross was a bit of a prick before they voted him in. He is unelectable there now under any banner.

      A decent candidate might well sway some NZFirst candidates over to blue though.

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 8, 2018

        “Most Botany residents thought Ross was a bit of a prick before they voted him in.”
        It’s the National Way.

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        • Alloytoo

           /  November 8, 2018

          The alternatives at the ballot box were and continue to be worse.

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  7. Zedd

     /  November 8, 2018

    hey good idea man !

    NZF needs a electorate MP to consolidate their position 😀

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  8. PartisanZ

     /  November 8, 2018

    Plan or joke?

    In what we currently have the impertinence to call democracy, is there really any difference?

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