Teacher strikes again this week

Primary school teachers are still unhappy with pay negotiations and plan more strikes this week, starting in Auckland today and rolling out across the country through the week. This will inconvenience many people.

Last Thursday: Revised pay offer for secondary teachers labelled as ‘laughable’

About 1500 teachers turned up for a meeting yesterday to discuss the new offer from the government over pay and conditions, which would increase most teachers’ pay by 9 percent over three years.

The Post Primary Teachers’ Association has suggested teachers reject the offer, which it said was largely unchanged from another offer in September that teachers also rejected.

Teachers are seeking better pay, better staffing, cuts to unnecessary administrative red tape, and upped allowances to create better conditions in the classroom.

I wouldn’t mind 9% of increases over three years, but teachers think they need more of a catch up for that – for the sake of the kids of course.

Friday:  Primary teacher strikes to go ahead as last-ditch offer fails

A last-ditch offer from the Education Ministry has failed to avert next week’s strikes by primary teachers and principals.

New Zealand Education Institute (NZEI) president Lynda Stuart said the Ministry made the offer yesterday afternoon after a week of bargaining facilitated by the Employment Relations Authority.

She said it removed the $63,929 upper limit on pay rates for teachers with diplomas and moved it to $82,992 by 2020, the same top rate as teachers with degrees.

The top rate for those with graduate diplomas and masters degrees would rise to $85,481 by 2020.

Ms Stuart said its members would discuss the offer and vote later this month on whether to accept or reject it.

But are going on strike this week.

Education Minister Chris Hipkins said he was disappointed the teacher union decided to push ahead with strike action.

Mr Hipkins said teachers were not even given the opportunity to vote on the latest offer before the union dismissed it.

“The latest offer that the government has made is it. There’s not going to be any more money, so they can choose to accept the offer, they can ask for the offer to be reconfigured, but striking in the hope that more money will eventuate is going to lead to disappointment.”

RNZ:  Primary school teachers on strike again today

More than 100,000 primary school students in Auckland will be home from school today as teachers and principals walk off the job for the second time this year.

Today’s strike is the first of five expected across the country this week.

The strike is in Dunedin on Thursday, which will impact on me.

The Educational Institute said its members would discuss the ministry’s latest offer and vote later this month on whether to accept or reject it.

The Employment Relations Authority has slammed the teachers union’s pay demands as “totally unrealistic” and is urging teachers to take the Government’s offer.

Teachers get some parent sympathy when pushing for better wages and conditions, but run the risk of losing that support if they strike too much. Strikes impact on many people. The kids like getting an extra day off school, but it inconveniences parents, grandparents and other caregivers.

 

25 Comments

  1. David

     /  November 12, 2018

    When these teachers have finished with Labour it will be secondary school teachers but if labour are going to give in why not negotiate some form of performance pay ?
    The reason why its hard to attract people to teaching is because they are a closed shop and poor performance is protected, its been turned into a mediocre profession infested with mediocre people and naturally a nest of leftism..who would want to work there.

    • Corky

       /  November 12, 2018

      Damn straight, Dave. The sweet irony of being bitten by one of your staunchest supporters.
      Sad about the kids…collateral damage.. but, then, kids are already being short changed, education wise, so a little more of the same won’t hurt them.

      • Corky

         /  November 12, 2018

        Just watched these teachers strike action on 3 News. One Maori sheila bared her teeth to the camera. The rest were dressed in a slovenly manner. People who home school, or have kids going to private schools are giving their kids a great start to life…away from Marxist influences.

    • Gezza

       /  November 12, 2018

      I wouldn’t go near teaching primary school kids, as a male, these days. I’m too programmed to be kind to & give a pat or a hug kids who scraped their knee or whatever & want that before they stop sobbing. Dangerous. That’s not counting one’s inability to deal with disturbed or disturbing, disruptive, even violent children.

      And I wouldn’t go near teaching today’s young thugs at secondary school either.

      Ma says the nurses deserve their pay increases. That a friend of hers is a school teacher, and her mother is a nurse – and mum goes mad at the daughter for demanding more money when they don’t carry work night shifts and have months off a year. She reckons they’re overpaid as it is.

      More money in Special Education Services and Special Needs teaching I’m happy to see though. I know two women who work in this area and they say under National funding was diabolically inadequate to meet the needs of children who require intensive one-on-one teaching assistance.

  2. Ray

     /  November 12, 2018

    Looks like the teachers are running out of time to strike, High School teachers are mostly finished their years work by November and Primary only have a month before their rather generous holidays start.
    Seems they might have to strike in their holidays, not sure how effective that is going to be though it will be more popular with parents.
    Thing is it seems they not only badly timed their demands, they badly misjudged their man in Government or swallowed his statements hook, line, and sinker.

  3. David

     /  November 12, 2018

    Coppers will be next then the firefighters meanwhile IRD and MBIE still continue with their action..who is next off the block.

  4. PDB

     /  November 12, 2018

    I don’t think teachers have quite the same capital with the public as nurses – they need to be careful they don’t over-reach.

    What passes for ‘teaching’ nowadays is a joke – the old-fashioned unionised system they currently employ needs a major modernisation.

  5. robertguyton

     /  November 12, 2018

    The Government is not caving in to union demands…and were criticising them for it?
    Funny! If they had folded to the unions at the outset we’d be…criticising them for it!

    • Gezza

       /  November 12, 2018

      I’m not seeing anyone criticising the government for not caving in to teachers union pay demands. I’m not sure you actually have the ability to “read for comprehension” so maybe you are misunderstanding the criticism you’re criticising?

      What criticism I see is mostly along the lines of teachers have stacks of time off and in comparison to some other government employees are well-paid already; if this government – which is almost kept afloat at times by union donations – thought it was going to be able to have a rational and reasoned pay negotiation round with the teachers’ unions, who would of course know that a Labour-led Government would look after them & be reasonable in their demands & not take strike – they are naive in the extreme, and they are learning this the hard way.

      They probably do not have enuf taxpayers’ dollars to meet the likely demands of all “their” government employees whose “best interests they have at heart”. A major charm offensive will be needed to placate those who get less than they are demanding, and the various unions won’t give a shit about whether other union employees might miss out if they screw too much out of the coalition.

      Hopefully there’ll be no more levies (#moretaxes) to pay for any increases if the Coalition caves in too often.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  November 12, 2018

        I can never see why more more money will stop burnout from overwork.

        • Gezza

           /  November 12, 2018

          It pays for the psychiatrists and psychologists to rewire the brain again. 😕

  6. Zedd

     /  November 12, 2018

    After 9 loooong years of neglect by ‘Team Key/english’ they are now standing up & making demands from Labour (& NZF/Grns) because they know that this Govt. are at least listening. Meanwhile the Tories are trying to say ‘It is Labour’s fault’ that they are striking (NOT) :/

    Narrow minds on the Right & in right-leaning MSM 😦

    • Corky

       /  November 12, 2018

      What a load of dribble. Look at the posted clips above. That’s the problem. Good Tory governance kept these people inline..and tried to get objective targets from/and for their teaching curriculum.

      • This one “they” will not have to keep “inline” any more. My daughter-in-law just resigned . She wrote “not underpaid but overworked” . A better teacher you could not have wished for. I feel sad it has come to this.

        • Corky

           /  November 12, 2018

          I know all about teachers being overworked, Teoranga. I have family members who are teachers. One, a syndicate head, spent a whole day before a new term preparing work. Even with me and others helping, it was a solid 8 hours. That’s on top of a refresher course she attended in her own time. Oh, and the new shoes she buys for pupils who don’t have shoes.

          May I suggest your DIL take a short term contract teaching English overseas. The money is fantastic.

          • And in the meantime they import the spare ones from overseas??? Canada has a surplus. DHL going overseas is not an option – wife and mother .

        • Corky

           /  November 12, 2018

          It’s interesting looking at Teoranga’s comments. He/she probably has little time for my viewpoints. And whether they believe me or not ,at least I had a chance to put my case forward without undue abuse.

          Now, spot a troll:

          ”Anyone who spent a mere 8 hours preparing for the new term would be getting off very lightly indeed. It would be unheard of. Unless the family members were also teachers, there would be little point in asking them for help. My mother was a deputy principal, so I know what sort of hours are actually put in before a new term, and it is a lot more than eight.Dream on, and make your stories more credible.”

          Funny..I didn’t think you needed to be a teacher to photocopy, staple, check equipment for defects, do marking with a mark sheet and get resources ready.

          Clairvoyant, all knowing and calling me a liar. If Kitty thought that, why waste her time on my comments?

    • The Consultant

       /  November 12, 2018

      Wah, wah, wah.

      Team Key/English also left you a huge budget surplus just as they said they would nine years ago, having inherited a forecast decade of deficits had Labour stayed in power. And that surplus would be even bigger if a billion dollars hadn’t been used to bribe 1st year varsity students and their parents, with another billion to try and buy Winston First and Lube Hand Shane a future after the Toxic Gnome finally quits or karks.

      So stop whinging and spend the money. It’s the only reason for Labour’s existence anyway, so you may as well live up to your beliefs.

      • Corky

         /  November 12, 2018

        That’s a value for money consultation.😄

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  November 12, 2018

          Anyone who spent a mere 8 hours preparing for the new term would be getting off very lightly indeed. It would be unheard of. Unless the family members were also teachers, there would be little point in asking them for help. My mother was a deputy principal, so I know what sort of hours are actually put in before a new term, and it is a lot more than eight.Dream on, and make your stories more credible.

  7. duperez

     /  November 12, 2018

    The numbers and how they are used is interesting.

    On here we have, “The top rate for those with graduate diplomas and masters degrees would rise to $85,481 by 2020.”

    Elsewhere, “The latest pay offer would have given teachers around a $10,000 pay rise bringing the average salary up to about the $85,000 mark, Newshub political reporter Jenna Lynch says.”

    I’m trying to get my head around the average being at the same level as the top salary and that average is for someone experienced with what you’d expect to be a top level qualification of a graduate diploma and masters degree.

    On the surface it seems a bit like saying the average All Black is 2.00m tall, weighs 118kg and has played 87 internationals but only using the statistics of Sam Whitelock and Brodie Retallick.

    Then the Herald headline had “Education Minister Chris Hipkins hits back: ‘Other Kiwis would appreciate $9500 pay hike,” than in the same article, “Hipkins said the latest offer would give the majority of teachers a pay rise of close to $10,000 over three years.”

    My calculator reckons that someone on $80,000 (one of the highest on their scales) getting 3% extra a year for three years gets and extra $7418 over that time.

    Maybe Hipkins embellished his averages for teachers by including principals’ salaries into his workings. A bit like saying the average All Black back is 2.00m tall and weighs 118kg by including Whitelock and Retallick in the calculations because they spend time out in the backs and sometimes play like backs.

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