Ardern still very disappointing on drug problems

The Labour led coalition government has been very disappointing with it’s lack of urgency apparent lack of understanding of drug problems. And people with some expertise on drug issues are also getting exasperated.

Jacinda Ardern seems to be leading the problems.

Russell Brown (@publicaddress):

Gawd. Sort yourself out, Prime Minister. This doesn’t help anyone – and apart from anything else, it’s completely unnecessary.

Real talk: Labour has spent long enough chanting “drugs are a health issue”. It needs to take the basic step of identifying an MP (it’s maybe even better if it’s *not* a minister) who can own the drug policy issue and provide a coherent, informed voice. Ginny Anderson maybe?

Minister of Health David Clark has also been disappointing on the drug issue – he doesn’t even need to be the leas minister, under the last government an Associate Minister of Health dealt with drugs.

Rookie backbench MP Chloe Swarbrick has been trying to get things happening but even her Green party don’t see any urgency, as people keep dying, especially as a result of synthetic drug use.

Despite her efforts Swabrick doesn’t seem to be getting very far.

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  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  November 20, 2018

    It’s a typo, but what was ‘leas’ meant to be?

    I have always wondered about the supposed weedspray etc in these things, for the simple reason that the dealers wouldn’t WANT to kill their customers and lose their business. even if they had no qualms about it and no fear of being done for murder.

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  2. Where’s the news here – you know, the new information that would advance the discussion? This seems a rehash, Pete, of your hobby-horse, for no particular reason.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 20, 2018

      It doesn’t look good when the PM repeats an urban myth. It makes her and Labour look very ill-informed.

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      • robertguyton

         /  November 20, 2018

        That’s news? To be posted unusually late in the day, when Pete rarely posts anything bar “breaking news”?
        I don’t think so. It’s the weakest possible reason to rehash a criticism of the Government. Pete claims to be “balanced” in his posting. Ha!

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  November 20, 2018

          Seems balanced to me. Why should Trump be the only leader promoting fake news?

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        • Gezza

           /  November 20, 2018

          The video clip was from this morning. All I heard was an attempt by Jacinda to cover up lack of any sensible action by the coalition on this with an endless flow of basically torrents of shite intended to totally obscure and prevent a direct answer.

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        • You seemed obsessed with finding something to grizzle about. The tweet I posted was from RNZ at 6:23 pm.

          Your petty attacks on the messenger as usual avoid the issue being raised. When Labour stalwarts like Russell brown are dismayed at Ardern then she has a real problem. There’s not many votes in blind apologists like yourself.

          You seem to have sand in your eyes and your ears.

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          • robertguyton

             /  November 20, 2018

            Just adding to the creative tension here, Pete. Without it, things get boring (most of your team moaning about the coalition Government, etc.) Odd for you to be posting at this time of the day though, isn’t it?

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            • I post at all times of day, always have. Obviously most often in the morning, I get up early for that. Mostly not during the day because I have a day job. But quite often in the evening as well, depending on how much time I have and what I may have noticed during the day and evening.

              It’s nothing like ‘creative tension’ you add, it’s mostly aimless lame diversions and attempts at disruption, that just reflect on yourself.

              If you think you are bolstering left wing views then I think you’re badly misguided – if anything you make ‘the left’ look like a pack of numpties.

            • And I not that you have done nothing to argue for Ardern or the government. That’s not surprising. Many on the left (and elsewhere on the political spectrum) are very disappointed with Labour, Clark and Ardern and their approach to drug law and drug health.

              National were never expected to come to the party. Labour were, especially with Ardern’s hype. They have quickly lost a lot of faith on this issue, with no sign they have any real intent to do anything about it.

            • robertguyton

               /  November 20, 2018

              Not “adding creative tension”? Dammit, I thought I was. Well, that just leaves “pulling the tails of the Eeyores” then. I’m good with that.

            • All it does is harm your own credibility. And harms the politics you support.

            • PDB

               /  November 20, 2018

              Robert is in the camp of being in govt at all costs, people who voted on what Labour and the like promised during the election campaign feel they have been mislead.

              The coalition govt is keeping the economy going strong by largely running it as National was, doing so by flip-flopping on some of their big promises (massive reduction in immigration for example & not signing the TPPA) & delaying the introduction of other policies that will slow the economy through creating working groups and the like. Unfortunately ramping up govt spending (much of it wasted) and borrowing more money will come back to bite them.

            • robertguyton

               /  November 20, 2018

              Borrowing more money, you say, PDB?
              The Key-led Government set the bar on that, didn’t’t they!! What was the other thing they did? Oh, yeah – importing cheap labour without providing infrastructure to support them – overheating the housing market and overloading our other key infrastructures – great act to follow, PDB. No Governments are very satisfying, are they. Now if you and I could get together and design a really good one, we’d all be better off, aye!

    • Gezza

       /  November 20, 2018

      The video in the tweet is not loading from the site:
      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/jacinda-ardern-defends-controversial-synthetic-cannabis-fly-spray-claim

      This might have been a current news item on 1ewes at 6 as well.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  November 21, 2018

        The National government didn’t overheat the housing market. John Key said that they wouldn’t force prices down if they could, as that would be grossly unjust to people whose houses would be made to be worth less than they paid for them. This would force people into negative equity, paying more than the house was now worth, as happened to my brother in the UK when the housing market went down.

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  3. Bill Brown

     /  November 21, 2018

    [Deleted, you are referring to serious allegations that I have never seen any evidence of. You should have learnt that making allegations like that can lead to legal problems. Perhaps you just don’t care what trouble you have helped inflict on Slater, but it’s not happening here. PG]

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    • Bill Brown

       /  November 21, 2018

      It was simply a comment over her apparent lack of interest on a very serious matter and many do wonder

      Drugs in this country are becoming a very big problem and it’s not looking likely to ever change sadly

      I’m intrigued on what you think I’ve inflicted on Slater……. interesting comment to make – do tell

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