Media watch – Thursday

22 November 2018


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    • Gezza

       /  November 22, 2018

      Came up on 1ewes at 6 again last night. The gender indeterminate twits on the board who banned cops in uniform are still hanging on insisting they have made the right call as sponsors, the army, and other groups are bailing out because they’re discriminating against normal people.

  1. We’ve had a lot of rain here over the last month, and over the last week in particular.

    Dunedin (via Metservice):
    Last month – 245.2 mm (normally 40-80 with variation)
    Last six days – 131 mm

    That’s just at one weather station, there has been much heavier rain in some locations.

    Most of the most dramatic flooding is actually normal flood mitigation using ponding areas. Overall it hasn’t been too bad.

  2. FarmerPete

     /  November 22, 2018

    Anyone know why the Stuff page has been difficult to load for some time now?

    • Gezza

       /  November 22, 2018

      Loads ok on my laptop but not on my iPad 2. Just too full of embedded animated ads and video clips I expect.

  3. I read that Mr Little intends to announce details on promised ‘reeferendum’ before end of 2018

    Binding/not, whether to run it PRIOR to next election, sort of question likely.. more details, not just ‘do you support drug reform Y/N’

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 22, 2018

      Reeferendum !!! Oh, the wit 😀

      I wouldn’t say yes to a vague question like that, though..

      • I saw an episode of The Simpson, they were discussing this. Kent Brockman (the news reader), had a sign “REEFERENDUM”.. it is clear what the thing is about, without other words needed , to clarify 🙂 😀

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  November 23, 2018

          Oh, I thought that it was a witticism of yours.

  4. methinks many in the general public are growing tired of the wait.. talkback ZB, a year ago they had many callers.. now it sounds like the host just presenting their ideas & a few callers saying Y/N

    I was concerned about the promotion of the word ‘Decrim’ mainly because it is totally undefined; fines only, warnings, no legal supply chain/black-market sales continue only.. perhaps a few home grows ? BUT seen as the ‘soft option’ to ‘LEGALISE IT MAN !!’

    The better word is ‘Regulation’ (same as alcohol) ; stick to these rules & you wont be arrested… end of story

    • Griff.

       /  November 22, 2018

      I was listening last night as Tim B pushed decriminalization.
      You may as as well say make it legal to use but keep the income stream going for gangs.
      We already have de facto decriminalization with most cops decided its not worth the effort to prosecute someone for a couple of joints

      legalize, regulate, tax and educate.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  November 22, 2018

        I’m with you on this one, Griff.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  November 22, 2018

          I’d settle for decrim, Zedd, for the moment. Let people get used to the idea.

          A friend who smokes it says that the boys in blue turn a blind eye to casual users. as they are more interested in real crims.

          • If we are going to have Law Reform then methinks it needs to go beyond ‘decrim.’ else the supply chain remains under black-market/gangs

            BUT if the cops are ‘not bothering’ with casual users.. thats a good start, but its too vague

            Regulation: a strict set of rules, that outline clearly what is acceptable & what is not.. beyond prohibition/zero-tolerance 🙂

            Its 2018 not 1975, the world has definitely turned since then; estimates that 80% have tried the herb. That is a ‘F’ by any standard on the drug war

            • btw; Thats a 20% success rate of cannabis prohibition.. has FAILED !!!!

              NY Mayor Fiorelli said in 1944 ‘Any law that is unenforceable at the rate of ‘marijuana prohibition’, is by definition a not worth pursuing’ (paraphrased) ie has failed

              this was a response to the 1937 Marihuana Tax act in USA.. that started the race to ‘Global drug War’.. DEA etc.

              nearly a century & counting 😦 😦

            • google: Harry J Anslinger if you need ‘proof’

      • Tim B claimed to be, staunchly prohibitionist once.. he seems to have soften his stance ?

        • Griff.

           /  November 23, 2018

          He was saying he thinks decimalization is as far as he thinks we will go.
          It depends on how the questions they ask in the referendum are framed.
          Binary question : legal or Status quo.
          Or a three way: legal market .Decriminalize possession of small amount but still illegal to supply, Status quo.
          A three way may split the vote and leave status quo with a majority.

          The question asked will very much shape the vote
          Hoping enough see the light that we get a legal well regulated market with tax income to help offset any increase in social cost and pay for harm minimization.
          I think the country would be very close to 50/50 on the question. That is a huge change from where New Zealand was a few decades ago.

          If not this time it will be legal in my life time as the reefer madness generation dies off and those who have always lived with cannabis being a common recreational substance take their place.

          One good thing is if the referendum is part of the next election it would encourage many youth who do not vote to do so .

          • I think they need to have 2 Questions:

            Q1) pick your fav. choice:
            a) decrim only, no comm. market
            b) fully legal grown/sell/use, few rules only (eg age)
            c) regulate with strict rules alcohol
            d) even harsher penalties; death for dealing/manuf. or imprison for possession/use too
            e) other/non of the above; suggestions

            which ever above, gets most votes: run off against ‘Status quo only’

            • Griff.

               /  November 23, 2018

              I prefer legal and almost the same as we treat alcohol

              For sale only at dedicated r21 stores (i dont want to be exposed to piss heads when i buy)Restrictions on siting distance from schools etc.
              No advertising cannabis product out side of the confines of outlets or outlet websites.
              Mail orders from dedicated websites also allowed.
              Product to be tested / certified for strength and contaminants.
              Product Traced and taxed from grower level.
              Tax leveled so retail price is about 10 bucks a gram.
              Legal for an individual person to posses up to a maximum of 50 grams dried and five plants.
              No private unlicensed sales
              .Under 21 illegal to buy or posses.Illegal to sell /supply to under 21.
              Drug testing for driving or employment to be based on testing for resent consumption not on residues that do not measure intoxication .
              Reasonable easy to become a licensed grower/ retailer so the market does not become dominated by big business.
              Cafes /coffee shop/ lounge style outlets allowed for consumption on site and/ or purchase to take away.