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28 November 2018


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  1. robertguyton

     /  November 28, 2018


  2. robertguyton

     /  November 28, 2018

    MGT @Kiwiblog

    “Well it’s obvious that President Goodfellow isn’t leading the response on this one. If he was the young man would have be offered a promotion and the young woman asked to sign a non-disclosure.”

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 28, 2018

      I doubt it.

      • lurcher1948

         /  November 28, 2018

        I think Corky will be interested,I understand he idolised Obama
        Hi all,

        One of the mistakes all young organizers make—certainly I did when I was young—is to think that societies will change on our timetable.

        While we should be impatient about injustice—while we should seek to challenge it at every opportunity—the truth is that creating lasting change takes time. It takes effort. And most importantly, it takes listening to our families, our neighbors, and our friends.

        This week, the Obama Foundation came together for just that purpose. Representatives from all of our initiatives, like the Community Leadership Corps, gathered right here in Chicago for the 2018 Obama Foundation Summit.

        It took our entire community to pull this historic moment off. So, at this time of thanks, I want to thank you, for helping make this moment happen.

        You made this possible

        The passion, the eloquence, the skills, and the fierce intelligence that were on display at the Summit were remarkable. As I watched backstage, I saw that our next generation of leaders is already way ahead of the curve.

        Our guest, Janelle Monáe, said it best: “to know that you guys are on the ground is so inspiring.”

        That’s why I left the Summit so full of hope.

        Michelle and I started this Foundation because we believed that the most important thing we can do is invest—not in a cause or an issue—but in people. If we can help a new generation of leaders figure out how to work together in cooperative, thoughtful, and constructive ways, great things can happen. Meaningful change can occur. Our impatience toward injustice can be rewarded.

        That’s where you come in.

        Thank you, for being a part of this community.

        Your participation is essential to our mission. When you share your story, your perspective, and your hopes—and when you listen to the stories and hopes of others—it helps us build stronger communities and a brighter future. That’s true right here on the South Side of Chicago and it’s true around the globe.

        I couldn’t be prouder of our work together, and I can’t thank you enough for your support.

        Take a moment to watch some of the highlights from our Summit. I promise you’ll be thankful you did.

        Happy Thanksgiving,


        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  November 28, 2018

          Obama still thinks talk = work.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  November 28, 2018

            It’s Trump Cork idolises.

            Let’s hope that this time the YNZ Bore doesn’t come back.

            • lurcher1948

               /  November 28, 2018

              Sarcasm Kitty,sorry if it went over your head

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  November 28, 2018

              For all I knew, Corks might have idolised them both because they were US presidents.

  3. robertguyton

     /  November 28, 2018

    “Everyone should feel safe when they come to work”, Green Party Workplace Relations and Safety spokesperson Jan Logie said today. The Green Party have previously said that, like other workplaces in New Zealand, the Parliament has a problem with workplace culture and bullying. “It is clear we need to assess culture and practice in this place and find out what we need to do to make Parliament a safe and healthy workplace. We encourage people to feed into the independent review that has been initiated.”

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 28, 2018

      Christine Rankin is accusing people of bullying…she can hardly talk. A friend worked for WINZ when she did and knew the woman she dropped in it over the private plane and luxury retreat. She made the woman sign it off, and this lost the woman her job, She later won a huge sum for wrongful dismissal.Nobody liked her, she was known for her bossy nature. She must think that people have short memories.

      She coyly asked Mark Prebble if he thought that her top was too low and he said yes, he could see an embarrassing amount of breast. No wonder, when she leaned forward on the news, she fell right out (no bra) an unforgettable sight and one that I would rather not have seen, The camera wasn’t quite turned off in time.

      But she threatened to charge him with sexual harassment for an honest answer to a question.

      What an attention seeker the woman is.

  4. lurcher1948

     /  November 28, 2018

    Barry Soper is on fire today, maybe his boss said Barry you are so yesterday, im lighting a fire under your bum,NZME WANTS MORE ANTI GOVT AGGRESSION,

  5. lurcher1948

     /  November 28, 2018

    The tempory leader of the opposition Simon Bridges is crocking mumbling head down trying to sound staunch, He doesn’t project clearly as he mumbles face down reading his notes but he is National,you sometimes try to understand what they are saying, ie no tax increases means we are going to tax you more, ie GST increase maybe

  6. lurcher1948

     /  November 28, 2018

    Im watching the urgent debate in Parliment and the Hon Nick Smith whose detailed all his( the bad Cheques) offences UNDER NATIONAL), and the MP said why is this bad cheque is still in NZ, NATIONAL?????the bad CHEQUE committed ALL HIS CRIMES UNDER NATIONAL,just saying and you want National party back in powerSHUT UP NATIONAL its a cluster FUC* all around

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  November 28, 2018

      Eh ?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  November 28, 2018

        As I remember it, Nick Smith put his family’s fares on his Parliament card and then paid it back immediately from his private one. He did it for convenience, to only use one card when they were all going to the same place. He didn’t use a cheque, good or bad, hardly anyone’s used cheques for many years now. We have online and epftpos..

      • lurcher1948

         /  November 28, 2018

        READ BETWEEN THE LINES Kitty cannot think for everyone Kitty

  7. PDB

     /  November 28, 2018

    Who’d of thought that when Ardern said “read between the lines” she was actually referring to the fact that it was yet another typical coalition govt f**k up?

  8. lurcher1948

     /  November 28, 2018

    Im watching a skinny pale white National party list?MP wailing about some poor sick Maori, GOD GIVE ME A BREAK,the, National party would drive over them inside their diesel BMWs if it got them back in power,thank god Sir Key is making money for the ANZ Bank AUSTRALIA LOVES YOU sir key

  9. After listening to the ‘Urgent Debate’ called by M Mitchell (Natl Attackdog) to try & say that Minister Lees-Galloway (immigration) has made the greatest mistake ever & deserves to be sacked !
    *seconded by Paula B !!

    BUT this was followed by G O’Connor (Lab. Ohariu) in the general debate, telling it as it really is.. from Natl: “lets get up every morning & hope everything is BAD..’ so they can attack/blame it on the Govt. unfortunately that seems to be constantly backfiring on them.

    also mentioned: Bridges travelled around the country & spent $100k ‘to introduce himself’ & then found that Natl’s & his personal polling had DROPPED 😀 😀

    The only other thing the Nats found to attack, was a recent Meningitis outbreak in Northland.. that just has to be blamed on the Govt. too

    oh dear how sad.. for the ‘great economic champions’ (now in opposition)

    BUT it will take more than one year (in Govt) to fix 9 looooong years of total neglect by ‘Team Key/english’

  10. lurcher1948

     /  November 28, 2018

    WOW some Chinese fag importer(SMUGGLERS have been caught after years of sneaking death into NZ without paying taxes, we have lost millions, [Deleted, no party link. PG]

    • lurcher1948

       /  November 28, 2018

      UNDER NATIONAL FOR YEARS, PG,just saying, its the truth,overlooked under NATIONAL posting is like sunlight DISINFECTANT…

      • It’s a customs and excise issue. Not something the government deals with.

        And I think this happened this year.

  11. Alan Wilkinson

     /  November 28, 2018

    Reading the above it would be easy to think the CoL supporters think they are still supposed to be the rabid opposition attack dogs.