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3 December 2018

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  1. David

     /  December 3, 2018

    Labour slip in the polls and wow there is an article from Gayford about parenting the first baby.
    The press gallery sisterhood, Garner and various others who have been spouting UMRs internal Labour polling have been well and truly duped. All Labour,s lying has done is made people surprised at how well National is doing and made them take notice, own goal.
    Cullens tax plans will take Labour into the 30s as he tries to introduce what he couldnt when he had 9 years to do it.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  December 3, 2018

      A poll is like a WOF, it’s only the few peoples opinions at that moment in time,has anyone here ever been polled??

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      • David

         /  December 3, 2018

        Me, by UMR with their leading questions. Push polling I think is the term

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      • Gezza

         /  December 3, 2018

        Yes I was polled by 3 political telephone pollsters in the lead up to the last election.

        I don’t recall who the callers said they were but they must have said something acceptable to me at the time, They were all non-committal when asked if they were polling on behalf of a particular party, but I responded to two sets of very detailed poll questions anyway, out of interest in what they would ask.

        In the third case I was given an extraordinarily obfuscatory response to who they even were, so I said no thanks. I had found the previous poll so detailed I had to keep saying “Can you repeat those options again, please” too often, & I couldn’t be bothered doing another one when they’d started off like that.

        I expect at least one was on behalf of Labour and another National. But I have no idea if that’s correct. One series of questions was far more wide-ranging and detailed than the other. I didn’t like being polled not knowing who it is for & am not sure I would do any more. They took a lot longer than indicated by the poll caller.

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    • duperez

       /  December 3, 2018

      So who are you going to give credit to for Gayford being in the news as a poll comes out showing a Labour drop? The picture you seem to be painting surely suggests someone has done some good work. 😊

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 3, 2018

        That’s odd about CG, as he was last heard saying that he was going back to work and handing the babysitting to the grannies.

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  2. David

     /  December 3, 2018

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/109029234/nelson-santa-parade-goes-multicultural

    What the hell ! Could they not have found another way to celebrate bi-culturalism. The parade is the Santa parade, its put on for the kids, the kids want to see Santa could you not find some other forum for your virtual signalling.
    Imagine if they replaced the fella doing the Maori greeting for Obama with a skinny white girl.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 3, 2018

      Hilarious contradiction at the end: Art is about making people think/Comments are turned off for this article.

      Stuff comtinues to make people think only what it wants you to.

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      • David

         /  December 3, 2018

        “Art is about making people think” well they succeeded there I think they are idiots.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 3, 2018

          There’s no reason why Santa has to be a Pakeha, but this was a flop because nobody could guess who it was meant to be. It makes the parade look silly and will have disappointed many children. No wonder that had to close the comments,the site was probably going down because there were so many.possibly

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 3, 2018

            ….with a white girl dressed as the Sugarplum fairy, David, just to make the point.

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    • Gezza

       /  December 3, 2018

      It came up on 1ewes at 6. The council has apologised.
      https://yournz.org/2018/12/03/santas-a-crock/#comment-329584

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  3. robertguyton

     /  December 3, 2018

    So, let’s see … who’s in Government and who’s in Opposition presently….???
    Oh!

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 3, 2018

      Robert wakes for another day of banal trolling.

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    • lurcher1948

       /  December 3, 2018

      Has anyone noticed on a nearby rightwing,any bad news drags coming out like bullying,but a poll,instant posting..being Nationals attack poodle,spinning must become tiresome

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  December 3, 2018

        You are such a grumpy old bugger sometimes, Lurch. Can’t you enjoy good news occasionally?

        Besides, Farrar is a pollster himself so of course he is interested in them.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  December 3, 2018

          What the hell has grumpy got to do with it, what good news?.I don’t give a damn but if it makes you walk with a spring in your step good on you but when the poll reverses again we are here to hold your hand, and wail along with you(well not me)..

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 3, 2018

            Poor old Robert has forgotten who the government is/

            It’s National, Robert.

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            • lurcher1948

               /  December 3, 2018

              And Jeramy C runs Britain

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 3, 2018

              If RB has forgotten who it is, he might as well be told that National is….

            • Gezza

               /  December 3, 2018

              Who the hell is Jeramy C? o_O

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 3, 2018

              I have no idea; ask Lurch.

            • Gezza

               /  December 3, 2018

              Lurchy mate – hey, neighbour – if you haven’t passed out yet – who the hell is Jeramy C?

    • lurcher1948

       /  December 3, 2018

      You cannot say that Robert,some of the stressed out righties HERE are not near their comfort blankets and still are sulking… but they have Simon

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 3, 2018

      Reality is many women judge themselves by how much money is spent on them and their men judge themselves by how much they can afford to spend on women.

      What the money actually buys is irrelevant.

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  December 3, 2018

    Just when you are having a good day, basking at the latest poll results….then shit happens

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  5. David

     /  December 3, 2018

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12170060

    Interesting article from Soper, one might think it was pre written on the predication that National had dropped in the CM poll, either that or he was a little drunk and got the numbers the wrong way round.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 3, 2018

      Doesn’t read as if he had seen that poll. Maybe he has caucus informants or maybe he just interviewed his keyboard.

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      • David

         /  December 3, 2018

        Bizarre, surprised the editors let it out. Does show a tiny hint of his terrible bias, I get the media dont like Bridges but its really not their job.

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        • Blazer

           /  December 3, 2018

          good old ‘barely sober’ is hardly pro Labour.

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          • David

             /  December 3, 2018

            I think its more anti Bridges. He is certainly pro Winston but Peters does feed him stories and occasionally they are true ones.

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  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  December 3, 2018

    Came across this atrocious debacle by the useless, brainless pricks at DoC while looking for something else:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12096433

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  7. Gezza

     /  December 3, 2018

    Feels like a Friday to me here for some reason.

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    • robertguyton

       /  December 3, 2018

      December is the “Friday” of the year, Gezza.

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      • Gezza

         /  December 3, 2018

        I would argue it was the Sunday if there was a sensible argument to be had here.

        But 7 days – one week, 12 months – one year ? Not seeing it.

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