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  1. Gezza

     /  4th December 2018

    A New Zealand woman has lost a racial discrimination case against an Australian bakery where she was nicknamed “Kiwi” by her colleagues. Julie Savage had taken her complaint against Vili’s Cakes in Adelaide to the South Australian Employment Tribunal (SAET), saying the “disrespect” caused by the phrase was a form of racial discrimination.

    But the tribunal found that a New Zealander being called “Kiwi” was not an insult and dismissed her complaint.

    Savage alleged that the bakery’s managing director Vili Milisits called her “Kiwi” while she worked as a supervisor at the company in 2016, prompting others to do the same and making her feel disrespected.

    But Judge Leonie Farrell found in favour of the bakery, which argued that the New Zealand Government openly endorses the term “Kiwi” and it is is used as “a term of endearment and as a means of identifying a New Zealander”.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/109061375/new-zealand-woman-loses-racial-discrimination-case-over-kiwi-nickname

    • Noel

       /  4th December 2018

      She should have predicted the outcome. Aussies don’t give a damn about Kiwis in Australia.
      Had many discussions over lack of reciprocal benefits and they don’t want to know.
      Yet in April they waffle on about the ANZAC relationship.

      • Gezza

         /  4th December 2018

        Tbh I just see Australia as a essentially a US vassal state. Nasal imitators. I sometimes call them the yanks of the South Pacific. They’re a big country, and our diplomatic relationships and often independent foreign policy, and the way our people are treated over there suggest that deep down they don’t really like us. We’re perceived as sending them too many unwelcome poor back immigrants coming for a better life – so they treat us accordingly.

        • Gezza

           /  4th December 2018

          *back door immigrants

        • Pink David

           /  4th December 2018

          ” I sometimes call them the yanks of the South Pacific.”

          Does that not make NZ the Canadians of the South Pacific?

          I’m not sure anyone wants to sink that low.

        • Gezza

           /  4th December 2018

          Interesting observation. Not as a nation, I think, but Jacinda is our Justin Trudeau.

    • MaureenW

       /  4th December 2018

      Kiwi is a better name than Savage anyway. Silly woman.

      • Gezza

         /  4th December 2018

        I wonder what prompted her to do this. Looked like she was on a hiding to nothing from the start. If she was a bloke, she’d have been getting “Morning, sheep-shagger”.

        • Blazer

           /  4th December 2018

          ‘Morning, sheep-shagger”.

          ‘He’s fond of smutty humour.’

          Most of us outgrew it after leaving school’

          very….good.

          • Gezza

             /  4th December 2018

            I think you might have missed the point totally – and the difference – in your rush to attack me and justify your still liking schoolboy smutty jokes like, still posting pics of cocks and balls, which most men left behind when they left school and emotional maturity kicked in.

            • Blazer

               /  4th December 2018

              there is no difference.
              Instead of needlessly engaging me on this hobby horse of yours I recommend you ignore posts that you find offend your sensibilities.

              Btw your frequent use of …’I think you might have missed the point’
              does not excuse your double standard.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              Yeah there is a difference but the distinction is unintelligible to you so I’m happy to leave it at your spitting at me over it if you like.

            • Blazer

               /  4th December 2018

              high brow ,non juvenile..’humour…

              ‘sheepshagger (plural sheepshaggers)

              (Britain, slang) A man who engages in sexual intercourse with sheep; usually used as a slur for a rural person seen as unsophisticated.
              (Britain, slang, derogatory) A term of abuse for inhabitants of various countries or regions which have large populations of sheep.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              The difference – and what is going straight over your head – is that “sheep-shagger” is a very common Ozzer working bloke old, old label Kiwi men working in Australia still find themselves being called on a regular basis. Often meant in a matey way, but something when it happens, they just have to grit their teeth & grin and bear becoz it’s fixed in the heads of so many low-brow Ozzers, and they’re over there becos they get paid more and it’s a bigger place than this tourist destination.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              So, what I’m saying, just so you are clear, is that this silly woman who took someone to Court because she was called Kiwi, has little to complain about in comparison to so many Kiwi men who have to put up with being called a name which appeals to low-brow, immature Ozzers who haven’t managed to move beyond smutty humour.

              Have you ever considered moving to Oz – out of mild interest?

            • Blazer

               /  4th December 2018

              I have lived in Australia before…I agree the woman was stupid.
              As for smutty humour…accusing humans of having sex with sheep makes the cut imo.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              Exactly. And I wasn’t saying that because I think it’s hilarious. I was saying it because I think the users haven’t sexually and emotionally grown up yet, but that being called that is more grounds for complaint than being called “Kiwi”.

              I’ll leave it here because this sub-thread’s so pointless.

        • NOEL

           /  4th December 2018

          Was common to be called a “sheep shagger” when introduced as a Kiwi during a years secondment to the ADF. Eventually just ignored it.
          But years later when I took my son to an ANZAC commemoration across the ditch his reply was “you Aussies are always going on about how you like our lamb roasts so why knock it.”

          • Gezza

             /  4th December 2018

            Other people have been called worse from time to time I expect. I imagine with one or two here it’d often from be a multiple choice menu of male & female body parts.

  2. Gezza

     /  4th December 2018

    Trump’s mangled truths on Russia probe, Cohen, & pretty much everything else
    As well as on Russia, Cohen, Mueller, Trump displays a slippery grasp of the environment as well as trade policy. He also spread around to his millions of Twitter followers a wildly false claim that people in the country illegally get more aid from the federal government than Americans get in Social Security benefits.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12170754

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  4th December 2018
      • Gezza

         /  4th December 2018

        I don’t bother reading your Trump articles any more Alan. I just look at the stuff I like about his whole circus act and wait to see what the end result will be
        1. at the conclusion of Mueller’s enquiry
        2. at the next Presidential election

        I didn’t try to call the outcome of the Congressional elections but they might be an indicator of the next Presidential one. Who knows.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  4th December 2018

          At the conclusion of Mueller’s enquiry, whenever and if ever that is going to be, both Mueller and Trump will try to justify themselves. Democrats will support Mueller and Republicans will support Trump. Non-aligned will either plump for who is most entertaining or ignore the whole thing. Putin will be unscathed. Democrats and the media will try to launch another investigation. Trump will go on appointing judges he likes and the Senate will go on blocking bills the Democrat Congress keeps putting up.

          The circus will continue with Trump as ringmaster.

          • Gezza

             /  4th December 2018

            The circus will continue with Trump as ringmaster.
            Yes I know that’s your opinion. And nothing will change it.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  4th December 2018

              So far I’ve been right and contrary opinions wrong. Facts always change my opinions.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              You choose your facts and your interpretations of them to fit your biases and look for support from like-minded commentators. That’s all.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              There’s nothing wrong with that. That’s what most people do. But you delude yourself that you don’t.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              In my opinion. Which I already know you couldn’t a damn for – so there’s no need to mention that. I accept that as a given.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              Gotta go. Later, Al. I’m assuming because you’re still here that it’s raining up there. It’s a bit rainy here too at the moment, but I blame the government for that.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  4th December 2018

              It’s good to see you are right about at least one thing, G. I think the rain is over for the day and I’m hoping to head off to slay the last gorse soon after a bite to eat.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              Yes. It’s good to see we are at least agreed the government is responsible the rain. Bon apetite. Ma’s making me ham sandwiches. She’s having hers with tomato. It’s about time she made our lunch. I told her that. She larfed. Whereabouts is the last of the gorse?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  4th December 2018

              The road end of the eastern track. Hopefully not too bad. Won’t be taking the dogs though. Last time they played in the mangroves and the two smaller ones came back covered in mud that took half an hour to bath off. Gemma’s longer legs just needed a hose down. Didn’t do my ute seat much good either.

            • Gezza

               /  4th December 2018

              * Bon appétit (I should’ve checked. Thought it looked wrong.)

  3. Gezza

     /  4th December 2018

    Michael Moore’s at it again … should be a giggle

    “It was scenario few saw coming. As a typically pointed and poignant Moore montage shows – on the eve of the election, celebrities like George Clooney, Katy Perry and Jay Z had already anointed Hilary Clinton as the next Commander in Chief, while The New York Times gave her rival just a 15 per cent chance of winning. But as the evening unfolded, it became clear there had been dramatic shift between expected perceptions and the reality.

    With trademark tongue-in-cheek, our guide initially comes up with a more humourous take on who or what is to blame. Rather than the Russians or FBI director James Comey, Moore suggests pop singer Gwen Stefani was the true culprit. That because when Trump discovered that she was earning more than him at NBC for her role as a judge on The Voice, he decided radical action was needed. Attempting to prove his worth and popularity, Trump staged a fake Presidential announcement. While the move backfired and NBC sacked him for some of the more outrageous comments he made during his speech, the interest it generated was all the encouragement he needed.”

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/film-reviews/109058212/fahrenheit-119-michael-moore-reveals-how-hilary-got-trumped

  4. Gezza

     /  4th December 2018


    Amid market exuberance following the trade-war truce, a sober warning sign has emerged

    Is the US on the brink of recession?
    Well, if you believe the theory that bond markets rule the world, then maybe.

    Amid all the market exuberance after Trump’s trade war truce, a sober warning sign has emerged that all is not well in the US economy.

    US bond markets spoiled the equities party on Wall Street last night as the treasury yield curve inverted – something widely considered an accurate predictor of recession.
    More…
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12171060