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  1. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    “Some weeks ago Simon Bridges and other National MPs claimed to not know who the young man was who sexually harassed a young woman at an event. The next item on the same news was that National had been in touch with the unknown young man and he had been spoken to.”

    https://thestandard.org.nz/national-leaking-like-a-sieve/#comment-1558360

    How is that investigation going, btw?

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  2. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    “Can we save the planet without a revolution?
    by Damon Rusden
    The short answer is no; the long answer requires an explanation of what form that revolution will take.”
    https://www.pundit.co.nz/content/can-we-save-the-planet-without-a-revolution-3

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  December 5, 2018

    When you see this picture, one of the S.W.A.T team,is as mad as a hatter, the man is a QAnon believer and as hes dressed to invade a country and is standing next to the vice president SCARY if he had a AR15
    QAnon is a group of rightwing nutters
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/florida-cop-qanon-mike-pence_us_5c05c223e4b0cd916faf01b7

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  December 5, 2018

    Its another day and Farrars SPINNING away…earning his pay
    https://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2018/12/premier_house_costs.html
    the comments are always a good laugh

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    • The Consultant

       /  December 5, 2018

      You should jump over there and joing them Lurcher; no reason why Hipkins should be the only Lefty revealed as a partisan, one-eyed hack with double standards.

      “Every Kiwi family struggling to pay the bills knows that if you can’t afford to pay for dinner, new carpet and curtains for the lounge get pushed a long way down the list,” Mr Hipkins said.

      “Struggling Kiwis simply don’t live in John Key’s world where you can afford to be splashing out on heated seats in brand new BMWs and to jet around the world in military planes.

      Awwwww. How heartrending. That was for a Premier House renovation costing $275,000.

      The one under Hipkins is $3 million over five years.

      Rules for Thee, but not for me: The eternal cry of the Left.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  December 5, 2018

        Funny enough I own Premier House and are pleased the present tenant is maintaining it for NZ
        Rules for Thee, but not for me: The eternal cry of the Right..the .party of hatred and despair.

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        • PDB

           /  December 5, 2018

          Don’t worry Lurch – I too have now become complacent about the back flips this govt has taken there have been so many. After Labour/Green MP’s marched against the TPPA and then turned around and signed an almost identical agreement that failed to address most of the concerns that they marched about probably did it for me.

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  5. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    “In no particular order this year there has been the following leaks. The list is not exhaustive. They include:

    Discussions concerning the replacement of Bill English as leader being well advanced.
    Simon Bridges’ travel expenses
    Caucus discussions about the leaking of Simon Bridges’s travel expenses.
    An email from Paula Bennett to Parliamentary Services staff about the leak inquiry.
    Glenda Hughes’ involvement in sorting out Jami-Lee Ross.
    Bridges using his magical prosecutorial skills to determine who the leaker was.
    Polling data suggesting that Bridges is not liked and his caucus wants him gone.
    Details concerning funding received from the Cathedral Club.
    National’s latest polling which contradicts the very favourable Colmar Brunton polling that recently occurred. This was particularly damaging because it questioned CB’s favourable result.
    Allegations about Maggie Barry being a bully.
    More allegations about Maggie Barry being a bully.
    Yet more allegations about Maggie Barry being a bully.
    Internal talking points on how to handle the allegations that Maggie Barry is a bully.
    An email instructing a ministerial staff member to work on a letter to National Party members contradicting Barry’s claim she had not breached Parliament’s rules.
    Simon Bridges’ claim that the latest leak did not come from within National is laughable and mirror his previous identical claim which was also laughable.”

    https://thestandard.org.nz/memo-from-crosby-textor-nationals-leak-problem/

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  6. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    “And besides it should be abundantly clear that Ross is not the current leaker. The possibility is that there are many leakers from within National’s caucus.

    We always were concerned that the evidence supporting the allegation that Jami-Lee Ross was the original leaker of Bridges’ travel information was not sufficient. We understand that he was, but the public justification was weak in the extreme. We accept however that if Ross’s motivation for leaking the information was exposed it would cause further reputational damage to the party.”

    https://thestandard.org.nz/memo-from-crosby-textor-nationals-leak-problem/

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  7. lurcher1948

     /  December 5, 2018

    It’s sad when you die at work, he seemed a good man
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12171225

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  8. about 9:50pm last evening.. the start of the Committee stage of the Govt. Med-cannabis bill (about 5 minute speech by Dr Clark). Hopefully it will continue & pass, this stage today ? :/

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  9. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    ” … The anonymous texter, who leaked details of National’s internal polling last week, has hit back at the party’s leader who said the leak did not come from within his caucus.

    After last week’s National Party caucus meeting RNZ received a text message outlining details of internal polling, claiming there was a lot of disappointment among caucus members.

    Simon Bridges yesterday said the leak did not come from within his caucus, and would not discuss the polling numbers which were not as flattering as a recent public poll.

    “I’m not going to talk about internal polls, what we know is we’ve got a poll there that’s public, that’s 46 percent, that shows we’ve got momentum, you can understand there’ll be speculation and rumours.”

    He was asked about the internal polling, putting his party 4 points lower at 41 percent.

    “I don’t talk about internal polls, it’s a Labour Party trick.”

    After RNZ ran the story with Mr Bridges’ comments, it received another text from the same anonymous person saying Mr Bridges was foolish for thinking the polling leak did not come from a National MP.

    The texter offered details of what happened in yesterday’s caucus meeting as proof they were an MP.

    RNZ has been unable to verify the texter’s identity.” END

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/377531/leaker-claiming-to-be-national-mp-sends-another-text

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    • Gezza

       /  December 5, 2018

      Time for another enquiry by the Speaker.

      The texter offered details of what happened in yesterday’s caucus meeting as proof they were an MP.

      They need to front up quickly on this, to have any credibility, because this being an MP leaking to damage their own party makes absolutely no sense now when it’s clear Bridges’ days are numbered & the necessary arrangements will be made over Xmas.

      I’m thinking it’s possible someone from a well-funded, well connected party, with some sleazy contacts in the electronics industry or private security services has bugged their caucus room.

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      • robertguyton

         /  December 5, 2018

        Let Bridges run his own enquiry. Like last time, he’s declared “Labour did it”, like last time he’s declared “it wasn’t a Nat MP!” – his enquiry will find that like last time, this latest leak is from JAMIE LEE ROSS!!!!

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        • Gezza

           /  December 5, 2018

          Well, tbh, I doubt this is even real. Sounds like a con by some warped individual with a severe personality defect.

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  10. Gezza

     /  December 5, 2018

    Question Time /Kweschun Toyme

    Might have a butcher’s.

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  11. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    Ha! Bridges booted out, along with the Shadowy Minister! Cheery by!

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  12. robertguyton

     /  December 5, 2018

    Are those petulant Nat’s walking out of the House the moment their own questions are finished?

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    • robertguyton

       /  December 5, 2018

      Carmel slams the Nat’s for behaving like 16 year-olds! Funny. Notes that the challengers to Bridges were the one’s who stayed!

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    • Zedd

       /  December 5, 2018

      Yes they are acting like a bunch of petulant children.. throwing tantrums, because they cant get their way.. after 9 Looooong years of doing as they saw fit; for the top 50.1% who kept them in power. “How F@cking IMMATURE !”

      Gen. debate; Paula continuing with a ‘hissy fit’ about the Govt. actions.. oh dear how SAD

      As Carmel said ‘She led a walkout in school at age 16’ just shows the mindset of ‘Team Bridges/Bennett’

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  13. Alan Wilkinson

     /  December 5, 2018

    Looks like National have made their point pretty clear. They are sick of Mallard protecting weak Ministers and have called him on it:
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12171816

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    • lurcher1948

       /  December 5, 2018

      YAWN

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  December 5, 2018

        Afternoon nap, Lurch?

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        • lurcher1948

           /  December 5, 2018

          Allan have you noticed how boring Bridges is, he talks as if he’s browbeating some Maori caught smoking a joint in court, “does the pm stand by all her statements” in a mumbling croaky voice

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    • lurcher1948

       /  December 5, 2018

      Alan do you mean to say Nationals NOT COMING BACK,Labour go on a law change frenzy,we can do it

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  December 5, 2018

        Apparently the ones with questions still to ask stayed and others came back later.

        But anyway it is Winston who decides what laws Labour can pass and when, not Parliament, Lurch.

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  14. lurcher1948

     /  December 5, 2018

    Hey hey what’s there to say,I’m 70 years old today,had a wine or 2 and thanks for paying my pension,all of you

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    • lurcher1948

       /  December 5, 2018

      THANKS PG for putting up with me or maybe not but CHEERS

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 5, 2018

      You are doing well for a grumpy old youngster, Lurch. Have one for me. And a friendly lick or two from Gemma, Tinkerbell and Coco.

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    • PDB

       /  December 5, 2018

      Good on you Lurch! Hope you had a great day.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  December 5, 2018

        The cut and thrust and the shifting sands plus dog agility it’s a good life if the beers good, run hard is the saying OR go home

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