Open Forum – Monday

10 December 2018


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  1. David

     /  10th December 2018

    Kiwibuild is morphing into the taxpayer underwriting speculative apartment developments for one of the richest men in NZ. Mr Cassells is a very good operator and a quality developer who knows how to deliver a project which is a saving grace but if this is a model Twyford is going to use then sooner of later the taxpayer is going to be involved in a development that will go south.
    The development does fit with what is now Twyfords vote rich target audience of wealthy high earning young persons who could no doubt afford a property in the private market if they did a bit of saving. Probably not what was in the manifesto however.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  10th December 2018

    Just watched Duncan Garner fawn over the tempory leader of the opposition Simon Bridges,and was thinking who will Duncan be fawning over in the new year after the barbeque season,will it be ****** .

  3. lurcher1948

     /  10th December 2018

    You get to laugh at the weird posts on Farrars nutters club called general debate on kiwiblog but some of the nutters think our bright articulate clear speaking PM called Jacinda Adern is this weird female and yes the host lets them vent and post, BUT THEN THEY VOTE NATIONAL…no surprises there
    Does anyone know if you can still get that ‘Dream Job’ at the United Nations with a Criminal Conviction?

  4. High Flying Duck

     /  10th December 2018

    • lurcher1948

       /  10th December 2018

      BUT BUT if you wait Nationals leaker will say,Simon took the picture and there’s a walk out if you don’t agree

  5. lurcher1948

     /  10th December 2018

    Because everyone in New Zealand knows the”right” are petulant babies, who had their toy(NZ)stolen away from the rich pricks,(THEM) so a post on whalefat interested me and (ITS ALL JACINDAS FAULT)the more the right whine, the longer out of power they will be.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  10th December 2018

      I don’t know why any other dogs bother to enter, they must know that it’s waste of time.

      When is he coming to the Waikato?

    • Gezza

       /  10th December 2018

      Another great pic of the lad, Lurch. Have this one on me

  6. lurcher1948

     /  10th December 2018

    The opposition seems to consist of judith collins and david seymour, WHERES simon bridges, i know, in bed with his comfort blanket

  7. How to get there: 234 comments on The Standard, Pete, 122 here.
    Quite good.
    I hope you plan to join in a bit more next Sunday, with some inspirational stuff from the centre-right 🙂

    • Gezza

       /  10th December 2018

      I might go have a look, see what it was about.

      • Gezza

         /  10th December 2018

        What thread or post is it?

      • Gezza

         /  10th December 2018

        Robert Guyton 2.2
        9 December 2018 at 12:04 pm
        Oh, how I wish I’d been first in line on this thread!
        I was ready, having written a cracker of an opening comment (imo 🙂 designed to set the tone for what I hoped would be an inspirational, fun thread that would attract the creative and pragmatic commenters, of whom there are many here on TS, some of whom helped forge the ideas for this thread – but I was delayed by visitors (nice, unexpected but delaying :-), and now here we are, discussing cannibalism and coal and getting a lecture from Pete George!

        Good Lord!

        Time to pull my Big Boy pants on and join the fray. First up, I’ll paste in my pre-recorded address to the nation, then roll my sleeves up and send Mr George back to his own playground 🙂 (too many smiley faces, I know, but I don’t know how to do the teeth-grinding emoticon!)

        How to get there? Why, start at the beginning, go on to the end, then stop, my last-year-at-primary-school teacher used to say. Everything’s up for discussion though, isn’t it? It might be that we’re already well through our journey (many TS posters were born well before the arrival of television in New Zealand, BT, that is, “Before Telly”, before Samantha’s twitching nose, David Frost’s gravitas, Ellie-Mae’s Clampett’s…good lord, what was it Ellie-Mae exuded???) So, many of the nuanced comments seen here on The Standard come from seasoned observers and thinkers who seem to me a little … anxious about the future and consequently keen to play a part, asap, in doing something about improving the outlook. TS, as a forum for tossing ideas back and forward, is doing pretty well, in my opinion, but can seem a like a Jackson Pollock painting at times; topics from all over and comments from all and sundry, splashing views all over the canvas, but producing something that you mightn’t especially like to hang on your wall.

        This thread, boldly titled, “How to get there” after a poem by Australian cartoonist Michael Leunig’s delightful-if-somewhat-sobering comment on life, accompanied by the images you see at the top of this post that capture the journey described, is intended to attract comments from those who want to … get there, and have something useful to recommend about the process of doing so.

        Over the past several whiles, various posters here have intimated their desire for a “softer” thread that might provide opportunities for non-combative discourse; that is, pleasant trading of ideas about worthwhile things to do, as we elsewhere wrestle with life’s tough stuff; whether that’s possible on an open blog with a clear political inclination is another matter, but we will see.

        This is an idea that arranged itself, as leaves piled after a little whirl-wind in a public park do, with several regular posters here gathering about the spark of the idea and fanning it with their own puffing and blowing, till the ember flared bright enough for the authors here, Te Reo Putake in particular, to take notice and offer to help; thanks TRP, I hope you don’t end up with egg on your face  It could flop. There may be so few people “out there” who care about getting there, or talking about ways that there can be got to, but we will see. In any case, I reckon it’s a good idea and am happy to contribute.

        (written last night, in a haze of bonhomie, before reality bit – gritted-teeth-smiley-face)


        • Gezza

           /  10th December 2018

          Robert – why do you put your big boy pants on to post over there, and then put your little boy boy pants on to post here?

      • Gezza

         /  10th December 2018

        From TS – Robert’s thread

        Pete George 2
        9 December 2018 at 10:48 am
        Estimates of the population of the world at the time agriculture emerged in around 10,000 BC have ranged between 1 million and 15 million.

        Even earlier, genetic evidence suggests humans may have gone through a population bottleneck of between 1,000 and 10,000 people about 70,000 BC

        World population has experienced continuous growth since the end of the Great Famine of 1315–17 and the Black Death in 1350, when it was near 370 million.

        The population is now about 7.7 billion people. Subsistence farming and gathering (I guess many Greens are against hunting) would be impossible (for survival) in most populated parts of the world.

        Grafton Gully 2.1
        9 December 2018 at 11:30 am
        Cannibalism is a possible solution to the dilemma. How much high grade protein goes up in smoke ? You could do the maths. Or if eating other people is not acceptable, why not convert them to fertiliser and food for farmed animals and pets. Organ and blood donation are already commonplace. There are precedents in Pacific cultures, abolished by colonisation, and in societies that practice sky burial. Post mortem processing of human fat and hair for soap and felt was undertaken on a small scale in WW2 Europe. Why not amend the relevant legislation to allow the recycling of human corpses ?