Is Simeon Brown a Bannonite or just a deceitful right winger?

Who is Simeon Brown? Most people are unlikely to know much if anything about him. He is young for an MP (27) and seems to lean right/conservative.

He won the candidacy for National to contest the Pakuranga electorate last election, which allowed him to romp in to a safe seat vacated by Maurice Williamson. Brown actually increased the MP majority by 2,000 votes, and helped National increase their party vote by about 1,300 votes, giving them 61.69% in the electorate. It must be one of if not the safest electorate.

Like most back bench MPs in a large party Brown has not had much attention. However he was lucky to have a Members’ Bill drawn from the ballot giving him some publicity – it would ensure anyone who supplies illegal synthetic drugs receives a penalty consistent with the penalty prescribed for supplying a Class C Drug.

This is the opposite of most current moves to combat drug problems in dealing with them more as health and addiction issues and providing far better treatment and rehabilitation rather than lock ’em up for longer.

Yesterday after the passing of the Medicinal Cannabis bill in Parliament:

Other reactions:

Yoza: This is how backwards some segments of our society truly are. While sanity is prevailing in other parts of the world, we still have drug war fanatics here pushing a prohibitionist model that has been an utter social disaster for decades.

Mark sanders: So the party would reverse this if given the chance? Cool, add another reason to never vote for you…

Matthew Whitehead: The hilarious hypocrisy of National, a party full of MPs who have big issues with alcohol, moralizing on drugs is astounding. It’s also grossly inaccurate to pretend this is the forthcoming decrimalization decision. This allows prescription by GP, and we don’t see people abusing prescription drugs outside schools or addiction centres. (inside might be another matter ofc). Coincidentally, requiring prescription by GP is a control and a regulation, Simeon.

“Misleading at best and you know it.

“So out of touch fella”

“Perhaps you could try smocking it?’

This follows a recent exchange on Twitter over immigration, with speculation that he may be some sort of a Bannonite (a follower of Breitbart/Steve Bannon).

Peter Dunne: I think you know the answer to your question already Peter!

Peter Aranyi: No, I haven’t worked Simeon out yet. I recognised the ‘socially conservative’ aspect, & we (he & I) had a private conversation about his stance on abortion law reform (he’s agin it) but this migration thing, given the demographics of Pakuranga (even more so Botany) seems oddball.

>> Surely he’s not a Trumpette? Bannonitte?

Peter Dunne: Without the stridency or ideological precision, NZFirst here touches many of the same themes. But it is not as intellectually organised as the Bannonites.

An individual attempt at right wing populism? Whatever, Brown was not very popular on Twitter yesterday:

 

32 Comments

  1. Noel

     /  December 12, 2018

    So the politicians do what they are paid to do and legislate on medical cannabis yet chicken out on recreational to a referendum.

  2. FarmerPete

     /  December 12, 2018

    This race to label, categorise, pigeonhole, marginalise and dismiss as fringe and not worthy of listening to someone ‘you’ disagree with really disgusts me. It is the refuge of those who don’t want to consider a point of view on its face. It happens mainly on the left, but the right also do it.

    • Sunny

       /  December 12, 2018

      Agree Farmer Pete!. Synthetics have been a huge problem in drug related deaths. Perhaps they could have a conversation instead of labelling people Trump or Bannon or whoever else they deem a bad guy. And re the UN migration pact – The only evidence of extremism is the Spinoff piece which uses extremist language to unfairly labels people questioning the UN Migration pact as alt right so as to stop open discourse. The Spinoff article has no balance and fails to mention of the hypocrisy of the COL, when both Winston and Labour that ran on anti immigration stance and an anti TPPA stance for that matter. Questioning the UN migration pact isn’t racist. Questioning the UN Migration pact is a question of giving more power , particularly on the question of migration, to the UN. And most particularly on section 17 which advocates for education and sensitization and funding of our media according to their UN ideology . So call me alt – right but NO to giving increasing power to the UN.

  3. duperez

     /  December 12, 2018

    If the race to categorise and pigeonhole is disgusting, is saying it happens mainly on the left simply a fact or just a point of view?

    • Gezza

       /  December 12, 2018

      It’s just a point of view, imo. Although I have seen that some people’s views are obscured by a large hypocrisy in either their right or their left eye.

      Fortunately I have only a very small one in each of both eyes and they respond to treatment when they get bad enuf for me to notice them.

    • FarmerPete

       /  December 12, 2018

      It has been endemic on the left in the last two years, and also very vitriolic. But it does go in cycles, in my view. It is just an attempt to shut down dialogue which some interested party doesn’t like. But it goes way back. I am old enough to recall Muldoon labelling people as communists. You know how it goes – ‘don’t listen to him, he is just a communist.’ The current version is to label people as alt right, misogynist, homophobic etc and to marginalise them so ‘decent’ people won’t listen to them.

  4. robertguyton

     /  December 12, 2018

    He’ll be a Luskite.

  5. robertguyton

     /  December 12, 2018

    “Is Simeon Brown a Bannonite or just a deceitful right winger?”
    He’s also a Nat MP.
    Leaker?

    • Gezza

       /  December 12, 2018

      Spamming again?

      • robertguyton

         /  December 12, 2018

        Pete asked a question, I supplied two, probably correct, answers.

        • Gezza

           /  December 12, 2018

          Bugger. Used up all my allocated time for you today now.

          • robertguyton

             /  December 12, 2018

            Shoulda used it more wisely.

            • Gezza

               /  December 12, 2018

              I couldn’t find a wise comment by you to use it on.

            • robertguyton

               /  December 12, 2018

              You’re on overtime now, Gezza.
              Pete’s lucky you don’t charge.

            • Gezza

               /  December 12, 2018

              I bill him monthly. He never pays, because he’s never requested my services. >:D

              Off down to Mars. Donated you one minute, robert. Be grateful.

            • Gezza

               /  December 12, 2018

              Lol *ma’s.

              I blame YOU.

  6. Duker

     /  December 12, 2018

    Regarding Simeons increased majority. Its more relevant too look at who was running in his seat last time . As a candidate there was ACT ‘leader at the time’ Jamie Whyte and an Andrew Craig for the Conservatives- that 5,500 votes for people who didnt contest against Brown in 2017.
    Both ACT and Conservative faded as party vote as well, going from roughly 3000 votes to 300.
    Thats what caused Brown to ‘increase his majority’, not some special talent from someone who doesnt have any – another polly from a very young age with little to none real world experience- he was a local councillor while still a university student.

    • robertguyton

       /  December 12, 2018

      [Deleted statements ‘of fact’ with zero facts or substantiation. PG]

    • robertguyton

       /  December 12, 2018

      Simeon Brown reminds me of Todd Barclay. Todd Barclay (and Sarah Dowie) have had discussions with Simon Lusk (Sarah told me).

  7. Tautoko Chloe; many Natl MPs in the 3rd reading debate (esp. Brown) were basically resorting to out & out FEAR-mongering; plain & simple. Do they really expect the public to believe that 1000s of terminally ill (or palliative) patients will now be roaming the streets & hanging around schools, openly ‘smoking DOPE’ just to thumb their nose at the cops/establishment ?
    HOW PATHETIC.. that is totally hysterical & irrational.

    Mr Seymour (pro-this bill) even used ‘sanctimonious’ & ‘moral high ground’, when responding to Brown’s debating speech

    btw Simeon.. If you take a ‘sanctimonious’ approach; God/Jehovah/Allah or whatever god you bow to.. created all things, including cannabis leaf/buds. (Genesis)
    It is not ‘the DEVIL’s harvest’ or ‘the Plant with it’s roots in HELL’ as they claimed in 1940-50s USA.. but it seems some actually believe this OR use it, to justify their backward looking ‘status quo only’ rhetoric OR big pharma 😦

    • “How small you’ve become !’ (Natl) 😦

      • robertguyton

         /  December 12, 2018

        It’s sad how far they’ve fallen. That sort of idiotic fear-mongering is just pathetic.

        • It was bordering on ‘mass hysteria’ from the opposition.. it will be the END of the world & the sky will fall on us all !

          • robertguyton

             /  December 12, 2018

            Making Simon Bridges…Chicken Little?

            • Zedd

               /  December 12, 2018

              yes his (Bridges) speech was one of the worst.. talking about every second house will have a pair of shoes hanging over the power wires: ‘tinny house’

              wotaturd

  8. sorethumb

     /  December 12, 2018

    I read the piece on Bannon: spoiler: he merely counter claims without evidence.

  9. Chuck Bird

     /  December 12, 2018

    I have known Simeon Brown for over 10 years back when he and I were collecting signatures opposing the anti-smacking bill. He is certainly more honest than any in the current government.

    • Blazer

       /  December 12, 2018

      so you believe in smacking children as well…no surprise there.

  10. robertguyton

     /  December 12, 2018

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