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  1. Missy

     /  18th December 2018

    It has been an afternoon of drama… well an afternoon of something that was meant to be drama but turned into a bit of a fizzer.

    Theresa May has been under increasing pressure regarding the date of a vote on her Brexit deal, meanwhile Jeremy Corbyn has been under increasing pressure to call a vote of confidence in the Government. Today it came to a head – sort of.

    Prior to the sitting this afternoon Labour sources announced that Corbyn would call of a confidence vote in the PM. This is a bit of a fudge on his part, if she were to lose the worst it will do is embarrass the PM and most likely increase the pressure on her to resign, it is not enough to start the countdown to an early election, this can only happen if a vote of confidence in the whole Government is called. Also, if Corbyn were to call a vote of confidence in the PM only it would not have forced the Government into allowing time for a debate or vote (which they have to do if it is a vote of confidence in the Government), in fact the Government can ignore it and continue on as if he hadn’t said anything.

    This afternoon May announced that the debate on the withdrawal agreement would occur the week beginning 7 January, and the vote would take place the week after. These are dates that were pretty much expected as it had been stated last week the vote would be mid January. As a result of this Corbyn did not call for his vote of confidence.

    Corbyn seems to be waiting to call a confidence vote after the PM loses the vote on the agreement, however, this could go against him as it is likely the DUP would vote with the Government if the agreement isn’t passed, but against the Government if it is passed.

    • Gezza

       /  18th December 2018

      I saw Corbyn described as a “Eurosceptic”in something I read yesterday. What is his actual position on Brexit?

      • Missy

         /  18th December 2018

        Good question!

        All his political career he has been Eurosceptic, he has voted against every piece of legislation to do with the EU, even when whipped to vote in favour. Since he became leader he has been more ambiguous, he campaigned for Remain (though without any conviction) and has been doing his best to try and promote a Brexit that keeps the UK in the SM & CU.

        It is generally agreed amongst all but the absolute Corbyn fanatics, that he really supports Brexit and is only voicing opposition to keep the young voters inside. Keeping in mind the majority of millennial s who voted, voted to Remain and these are Corbyn’s base. Interestingly they don’t believe he is a Eurosceptic despite overwhelming evidence, and they truly believe he wants to Remain in the EU.

        Essentially Corbyn is trying to appease both sides of the argument, hence his hesitation to provide much opposition to anything relating to Brexit, and his reluctance to support a second referendum despite that being what his base want.

        • Missy

           /  18th December 2018

          In short (to bastardise an d saying), he is a Leaver in Remainer’s clothing.

  2. Missy

     /  18th December 2018

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  18th December 2018

      That was quick; it’s only been 80 years.

      It’s an insultingly small amount; too little, too late. They wait until 90% of them are dead and then make the offer. Is that really supposed to make up for what these people lost ? Home, extended family, everything except what they could carry in a suitcase ? Compensation? Hardly.

  3. Patzcuaro

     /  18th December 2018
  4. Missy

     /  18th December 2018

    Just seen this, will have a look into it when I get home. I would suggest that someone had words to him after his pitiful performance this afternoon.

    • Missy

       /  18th December 2018

      It seems that despite the original source being the Daily Mail this is accurate. Jeremy Corbyn left the chamber earlier in the afternoon/evening after failing to table a motion on no confidence in the PM, but claiming the threat of the motion forced the PM into declaring a date for the vote on the Withdrawal Agreement (despite the PM saying last week the vote would be mid January), he then returned to the Chamber just before 6pm and tabled the motion.

      There is no reporting on what happened, but I would not be surprised if he was spoken to, most likely by his Comms guy, Seamus Milne. Corbyn seems to be very reactive to public opinion, sitting on his hands until he is under so much pressure from activists, the media, or the public, he feels he needs to take action. He is neither proactive or forward thinking, and this is why I believe someone spoke to him and convinced him to table the motion. There was a lot of criticism of him on social media and generally for not tabling the motion earlier.

      It is being reported the vote will be tomorrow evening (Tuesday).

      Note, that the worst that can happen to Theresa May is that she is embarrassed by a loss, and perhaps has more pressure applied to resign, however, I very much doubt she will resign. Despite how much she has stuffed up Brexit I do admire her fortitude, resilience, and toughness. She has hardly ever shown emotion in public, except for anger occasionally, and I don’t recall her losing her cool at all. She has faced some really tough challenges and generally come through them, and I think that in itself is admirable, though in saying that she certainly isn’t a Maggie!

      This vote will not trigger a General Election, though I doubt many of Corbyn’s fanatical Momentum followers will realise that, they have been calling for a confidence vote in the PM with a view to a General Election, wow they will be so disappointed when they realise that a vote of confidence in a single Minister (even if it is the PM) is not enough to trigger a General Election. That will be fun to watch!

      What is interesting is the timing of this stunt by Corbyn. It is obvious he isn’t really wanting much out of it or he would have called a vote of confidence in the Government. At the weekend another story of a Labour Party employee’s anti semitic comments and behaviour came to light, the individual in question was allegedly close to Corbyn. The party suspended him after the Times approached them about it, though his comments date back years. Someone who is a little cynical, and may be giving Corbyn far too much credit, (though I think much of the credit will go to his advisers), may think that this motion is an attempt to deflect the media attention away from Labour’s problems with anti semitism.

    • Missy

       /  18th December 2018

      Last night all Conservative MPs and the DUP assured the PM they would vote with her if this vote went to the House of Commons. The SNP, who have been vocal critics of the PM, questioned the wisdom of Corbyn only calling a vote in the PM not in the Government, with Nicola Sturgeon questioning which Conservative MP Corbyn wants to see as PM.

      The Eurosceptic MPs who voted against the PM last week stated they support the democratic vote of their party to have confidence in Theresa May as PM.

      The DUP said they are not interested parliamentary antics or play-acting of the Labour party.

      Downing Street dismissed Corbyn’s motion as a silly political stunt and challenged him to call a full vote of no confidence in the Government which could lead to the collapse of the Government if passed.

      These antics of Corbyn is enough to question his rhetoric that he is ready for a General Election and to lead the country, or if he even wants to. For weeks he has been saying the Government has to stand aside and let Labour take over, but when it comes to doing anything about it he seems to be running scared. Corbyn is an activist and protestor, he can’t be either as PM.

  5. Gezza

     /  18th December 2018

    Saudi Arabia condemns US Senate for murdering its reputation
    The government of Saudi Arabia condemned a recent US Senate resolution blaming Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman for the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, calling the Senate vote “blatant” interference in the kingdom’s internal affairs, according to a Saudi government statement.

    The US Senate measure, which passed unanimously on Thursday (Friday NZ Time), was a sweeping condemnation of Mohammed’s policies including his crackdown on internal dissent. And it was a rebuke of US President Donald Trump’s defence of the crown prince and his position that Khashoggi’s death should not threaten the financial and strategic ties between Saudi Arabia and the United States.

    In its lengthy response to the Senate on Monday (Tuesday NZT), Saudi Arabia accused the lawmakers of making “unsubstantiated claims and allegations” and said it “categorically rejects any interference in its internal affairs, any and all accusations, in any manner, that disrespect its leadership, represented by the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosque and the Crown Prince, and any attempts to undermine its sovereignty or diminish its stature.”
    More…
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/middle-east/109427431/saudi-arabia-rejects-us-senate-resolution-blaming-crown-prince-for-khashoggi-killing

  6. High Flying Duck

     /  18th December 2018

    I have no reason for posting this other than it seemed a great burn. There are many many memes on this lady being dumb as a sack of hammers, but she seems to be doing very well…