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22 December 2018

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19 Comments

  1. Missy

     /  December 22, 2018

    • Griff.

       /  December 22, 2018

      Shortest day then renewal. A brand new year is born.
      Reminds me of Christmas except it predates it by millennium.
      Don’t tell mother… Christ birthday is really an ancient heathen festivity cop opted by a middle eastern cult . It might make her question what else in our society is actually not based on the Christen paradigm.

      • Missy

         /  December 22, 2018

        Indeed, I believe christmas was co-opted from the Yule festival which traditionally begins at the solstice and lasted for 12 days (the 12 days of christmas come from this I think).

        In the UK a little more prominence is given to the solstices than in NZ, even in terms of the seasons they have two starts to each season, they have the meteorological start (for winter this is 1 December) and the astrological start (for winter/summer it is the solstice, for spring/autumn it is the equinox). This is usually noted when discussing the seasons.

        So, for those who wish to go by the astrological start of the seasons today (21 December) is the official start of Winter (in Northern Hemisphere) and Summer (in southern hemisphere).

        • Griff.

           /  December 22, 2018

          https://www.nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/archaeology/stonehenge/

          Centuries of fieldwork since show the monument was more than a millennium in the making, starting out 5,000 years ago as a circular earthen bank and ditch. A complicated pattern of wooden posts was replaced in about 2600 B.C. by 80 dolerite bluestones from Wales that were rearranged at least three times once the larger sarsen stones were added several hundred years later. These huge sandstone blocks, each weighing around 25 tons, were transported some 19 miles (30 kilometers) to create a continuous outer circle with five trilithons (pairs of uprights with a lintel on top) forming a horseshoe within. It’s been estimated that it took well over 20 million hours to construct Stonehenge.
          Holy Site or Scientific Observatory?

          Modern debate over the monument’s meaning has two main camps: those who see it as a holy site, and others who believe it represents a scientific observatory. Both camps base their theories on the site’s celestial influence, with alignments to the sun and moon taken as evidence of rituals linked to the changing seasons and the summer and winter solstices. Alternatively, alignments identified particularly with stars point to a megalithic calendar used for working out dates or to reflect or predict astronomical events such as solar eclipses.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  December 22, 2018

    One tough lady, she wouldn’t let”bone spurs” stop her serving her country.

  3. kluelis

     /  December 22, 2018

    Longest day of the year has passed. Winter is on it’s way 🙂 Safe Holidays to all.

    • Missy

       /  December 22, 2018

      For me it is summer on its way…. I can’t wait.

      Safe holidays and travels to everyone, and lets hope no drones disrupt your holiday plans.

      Though to be fair, apart from the early nights it hasn’t been too bad so far this winter, last year it was freezing by now, and we had already had snow at the beginning of December.

  4. Kitty Catkin

     /  December 22, 2018

    Rouxle Le Roux is on the front page of the Herald, saying that she’s not a heartless psychopath, that she prays for the dead boy’s family and wants to make it right.

    In her defense, she has just graduated as a boat crew member.

    She must be a fool if she imagines that she can make it right. She can’t bring her victim back to life, and nothing else would ‘make it right’.

    I was a hit and run victim, and the two women who sped away leaving me injured and unconscious on the road couldn’t have made even what they did right, even if they’d wanted to, which they didn’t.

    • Gezza

       /  December 22, 2018

      Were they caught and prosecuted?

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 22, 2018

        No. The only witness had to make the decision to see if I was still alive and couldn’t stop them or get their number.

        They had the gall to send someone to the hospital, claiming that she had seen the crash and bringing flowers. She had ‘seen it’ in a different place and seemed very nervous. I was still groggy so didn’t catch on that this was a catspaw, sent to see if (a) I was alive (b) what I remembered.

        How despicable.

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 22, 2018

      Hang on, the boy killed rode through a red light with headphones on and no helmet. I get it that she didn’t stop but I don’t get it that she was responsible for his death. I think his mother is trying to displace some of her own guilt.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 22, 2018

        I wish that I could say that I was never stupid on a bike at 15; we all were, I suspect. We used to sail down a steep hill, look mum, no brakes. You couldn’t pay me enough to do that now, especially when I think what would have happened had we not slammed on the brakes before we reached the busy intersection.

        He was stupid, but he didn’t deserve the death penalty…and a boy on a bike would be fairly visible. I think that she knew that she’d hit him and carried on. She must have.

        Even when a car hits a person, it makes a loud bang.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  December 22, 2018

          He was stupid and is dead. His mother let him ride without a helmet wearing headphones so he was oblivious to other traffic. That was appallingly stupid too.

          A boy on a bike is not very visible. Most cyclist vs car accidents occur because the driver doesn’t see the cyclist. We don’t know what obstructions and distractions pertained. Charging through a red light on a bike into the path of a car is asking for death.

          Yes, she heard the bang and probably got a glimpse of something. Certainly she should have stopped and deserved prosecution for that. But that’s all in my book.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 23, 2018

            My mother didn’t ‘let me’ ride down the steep hill, and she didn’t ‘let’ my brother go to pubs underage…but we did these things. If you did nothing stupid as a teenager, you must have been a member of a small minority.

            I think that it would be difficult not to see something that you went straight into.

  5. Gezza

     /  December 22, 2018

    Further leak from Beehive Letters

    Gerry Brownlee to Megan Woods
    RE: Thompson and Clark Spying