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30 December 2018

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  1. Corky

     /  December 30, 2018

    Here’s a clip so germane to New Zealand it’s not funny, even though it’s about teaching black kids in American. Hell, there’s even a question about whether the narrator is a ‘real teacher’ or just a racist bigot with similar attitudes I’m accused of. No snowflake commentary. It’s very raw.

    The second clip is a snowflake version of the above. Similar to how our media would describe this situation. The nice middleclass teacher just can’t bring herself to say ”black.”.
    I feel so sorry for her. She wants to make a difference. She’s a good person. But nobody gives a fuck.

    The funny thing is everyone speaks of the future..about progress.. of evolution. Lol, what future?

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      • Gezza

         /  December 30, 2018

        Tru dat. I’ve even got cellcam video of violent behaviour by certain eels whose names don’t need to be publicly revealed at this stage but will be if it continues.

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      • Corky

         /  December 30, 2018

        And this has what to do with teaching black children, and the associated link with Maori children, Lurchy? Take your time..maybe a snack to get your blood sugar up.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 30, 2018

          Nothing. The link is only in your mind. Just because something happens in the US, it does not mean that it happens here. When was anyone murdered in an NZ school ?

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 30, 2018

              In the US, that would be on page 3, probably.

              One in the entire history of NZ education isn’t bad.

              Corky gave the impression that NZ schools have the same problems as US ones…hardly.

            • Corky

               /  December 30, 2018

              Gave the impression? Shootings in New Zealand schools?

          • Corky

             /  December 30, 2018

            ”Nothing. The link is only in your mind.”

            One of two things…you have no idea what teachers go through teaching Maori kids ( probably). Two, you are confused again( also probable). Who was talking about murder?

            90% of what that American teacher experienced, is also experienced by many New Zealand teachers. And please remember most incidents don’t make national news coverage like the teacher farewelled in my area because he had been put on notice by the ‘mob’ after he disciplined their kids in class.

            So, Kitty. I’m guessing these recruited teachers from overseas are coming from countries that still respect teachers to varying degrees ( I assume).
            How long do you think many will last in NZ after their first term contract is up?

            And, who do you think causes most problems in our education system…Polynesian kids, or European kids.?

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12114501

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  December 30, 2018

              Pakehas cause most problems, I imagine, as there are so many more of them. Stupid question. 😀

              I have taught Maori children at two high schools and my mother taught many of them at several primary schools in a city with a large Maori population as there is where I live. It’s impossible to generalise about so many thousands of people because they are the same race.

              I have no idea how many of the overseas teachers will stay, it’s impossible to guess such a thing. As you have no idea which countries they are from,, your assumption is meaningless.

              You must have missed the school massacres which are a regular occurrence in the US and in which a number of teachers and pupils have died. I have yet to hear of an NZ school with armed security guards, metal detectors and rehearsals for what to do if when there’s a shooter in the school…or heard calls for teachers to be armed. This is one area where there is a marked difference.

              You claimed that a teaching relation, a circuit head, took a whole eight hours even with help to prepare for the next term….tell that to a real teacher and see what they say .

            • Corky

               /  December 30, 2018

              Pakehas cause most problems, I imagine, as there are so many more of them. Stupid question. 😀”

              Stupid reply. For obvious reasons. But if you troll on that, what’s the use of debating?

              ”I have taught Maori children at two high schools and my mother taught many of them at several primary schools in a city with a large Maori population.”

              You always have an experience to back your argument. However, your arguments tell a different story. You have ‘NO’ experience teaching Maori children.

              ‘I have no idea how many of the overseas teachers will stay, it’s impossible to guess such a thing.”

              Not really if you think about it. While there are definite variables, if I’m right we should see many resigning after their contracts are up..given many of these teachers will be going to low decile schools. Schools filled with Polynesians. I thought that would be self evident?

              ”You must have missed the school massacres which are a regular occurrence in the US and in which a number of teachers and pupils have died. I have yet to hear of an NZ school with armed security guards.”

              Nearly 100 % correct. The schools I know have parent patrols at intervals.
              Most of the parents are Maori. ( why do you think that is?). These patrols are on an ad hoc basis because sometimes parents have commitments.

              I also wrote:

              ”90% of what that American teacher experienced, is also experienced by many New Zealand teachers.”

              ”You claimed that a teaching relation, a circuit head, took a whole eight hours even with help to prepare for the next term….tell that to a real teacher and see what they say .”

              A syndicate head ( infant classes). That’s correct. That’s what it took to get ‘her’ classroom ready.

              The syndicate teaching plan for other teachers under he auspices she does herself with no input from anyone else. In fact I’m helping her in a weeks time get her classroom ready.

              See, Kitty. When someone has experienced the truth their arguments are cogent. There’s no need to make up bs.

        • lurcher1948

           /  December 30, 2018

          AGISM Corky

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          • Gezza

             /  December 30, 2018

            Antarctic and Greenland Ice Sheet Model, apparently.

            Did you mean ageism, Lurchy? Asking for a friend.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  December 30, 2018

          Still the Corky of old…not a nice poster

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  2. Blazer

     /  December 30, 2018

    my panel are currently assessing candidates for the YNZ Poster of the Year.

    Last years winner ,Duperez set a very high standard and has maintained it.

    The award is not able to be won by the same person in consecutive years.

    A short list of 6 posters will be revealed in the next day or two.

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    • Gezza

       /  December 30, 2018

      How many are on the panel, if you don’t mind my asking?

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      • Corky

         /  December 30, 2018

        One.

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      • Blazer

         /  December 30, 2018

        3 ..2 journalists and a butcher.

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        • Gezza

           /  December 30, 2018

          Fair enuf. My panel this year has been two Indian dairy owners, a Chinese Malaysian couple who voted Labour previously but NZF last time, sundry people trapped into chatting at NW supermarket or in those dairies, ma, and the staff of my local pharmacy. They haven’t let me down.

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      • lurcher1948

         /  December 30, 2018

        Vote Gezza,a poster and a gentleman….im a good judge of character

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    • Conspiratoor

       /  December 30, 2018

      Is the panel accepting nominations?

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      • Blazer

         /  December 30, 2018

        sure ,will consider any candidates you can make a case for.

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        • Conspiratoor

           /  December 30, 2018

          Two if i may. Thinking missy, the blogs intrepid reporter at large, and the elusive traveller …still beating the bastards back and both capable of rare insights on any given day

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  December 30, 2018

            Like Missy, Gezza has had a number of comments elevated to posts as well as providing extraordinary insights into the natural world at the bottom of his garden. For this I am willing to overlook his unfortunate blind spot regarding the greatest, the best ever, US President.

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            • Gezza

               /  December 30, 2018

              I find it difficult to argue with most of that – except that last bit.

            • Conspiratoor

               /  December 30, 2018

              Agreed, except he doesnt sleep so enjoys an unfair advantage over mere mortals. Has also allowed himself to be seduced by a state funded broadcaster with a hidden agenda. So no show…

            • Gezza

               /  December 30, 2018

              Fuck off (no offence)

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  December 30, 2018

              @C, very true that last bit.

            • Gezza

               /  December 30, 2018

              WTF are you two on about??

  3. lurcher1948

     /  December 30, 2018

    Nathan Guy, uses a borrowed/stolen facebook symbol to highlight his and the National parties shortcomings.Nathan like everything else National didn’t do in the 9 years they were in power, trying to get the sheeple to support” a did nothing party” is rather pathetic
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/109618534/thumbs-down-experts-warn-national-for-use-of-facebooks-most-famous-blue-symbol

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    • Gezza

       /  December 30, 2018

      Yeah, I reckon this is going to be a problem for him. Nathan has never struck me as the brightest bulb in the box.

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  4. Missy

     /  December 30, 2018

    A Cantab??? 😂

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 30, 2018

      Nasty, Missy. Surely a Massey grad?

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      • Missy

         /  December 30, 2018

        A Cantab Massey grad???

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  December 30, 2018

          Nah, either an Aussie or a Mooloo judging by conviction records.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 30, 2018

            An army doctor ?

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          • Missy

             /  December 30, 2018

            ooooh….. that is harsh.

            Remember it isn’t dairy farmers that have the reputation….

            Also, a cow? really? I think that would take some athleticism and most vets I have met are not that athletic!

            Lets go with Aussie! (though most here are thinking Welsh). 🙂

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  5. Gezza

     /  December 30, 2018

    Today’s Helpful Hint

    Don’t sit on your sofa and eat a sweet bun filled with cream and jam while reading a conversation between Corky & Kitty.

    Or if you do, wear an apron, have a wet sponge & an old towel handy, & it’ll probably be ok in the end.

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    • Corky

       /  December 30, 2018

      Relax..it won’t be happening again. It’s fun trolling a troll..until it isn’t. Time to move on from Kitty.I know I said that before..but this time I mean it.

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