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31 December 2018

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  1. Corky

     /  December 31, 2018

    Crikey…I was in the middle of a mouthful of kefir and organic oats when I heard an old sparring mate from way back had been knighted. Nearly choked.

    I agree with little of what Kim Workman says, but at least he’s been consistent and has never backed down to ridicule. I admire that.

    Congratulations, son…I mean Sir!

    Talking of knighthoods, we really need to give Peter Dunn one. He’d love to big note and I’m sure the bow ties would grow larger.

    • Gezza

       /  December 31, 2018

      Hang on I better see if I made the cut this year. 😐

      • Corky

         /  December 31, 2018

        I’ve already checked. We didn’t make the cut. Free passes and the best restaurant tables will have to wait until next year.

    • lurcher1948

       /  December 31, 2018

      Are you mad?? dunne….knighthood for services for being a pig in a trough

      • Corky

         /  December 31, 2018

        He troughed in style. That puts him above the rest.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  December 31, 2018

          Anyone who deludes themselves that life as a politician is an easy ride for good money is totally delusional and has never met any, never mind known any.

          17 hour days as a matter of routine don’t seem like much of a trough to me, although the ignorant will never stop using this insulting term.

  2. Blazer

     /  December 31, 2018

    Shadbolt accepting one, just shows the transmogrification of the non conformist rebel is.. complete.

    • Gezza

       /  December 31, 2018

      Well, we he turned up at our school when I was in 6th form and used up the religion period to talk about being a professional anti-establishment activist I still recall him telling us that he expected one day to be told to get out of the way Shadbolt you’re part of the establishment & you don’t know what you’re talking about – so I guess he might’ve had a long term plan.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 31, 2018

        I can’t remember if he came to our school, he might have when he was in the town. I have a dim memory of his long wild hair and way out clothes. And that goofy grin, of course,

        • Gezza

           /  December 31, 2018

          That was a great year. For literature we studied Simon & Garfunkel at one point.

  3. lurcher1948

     /  December 31, 2018

    Heard Bruce Russel of NZME ZB fame(a rabid rightwinger who quotes Fox) ranting on about boy racers but he did have a long rant on the dangers of Muslims so i thought his biggest fear and hatred would be a(Muslim labour voting boy racer who wants sharia and came in on a boat ) wheres Trump to build a wall across Beasley Avenue??

    • duperez

       /  December 31, 2018

      A wall across Bealey Ave? Or a wall around Russell with all sorts of electronicy things on top to stop the noise getting out? 🙃

    • Corky

       /  December 31, 2018

      Stop fixating and start worrying, Lurchy. How long before Indonesian people smugglers try this given we have such a ”nurturing” PM?

      Can you imagine the pandemonium as snowflakes face the unthinkable?

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/12/29/migrants-crossing-english-channel-has-become-major-incident-uk-says/?utm_term=.20fe194cf0ed

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  December 31, 2018

        I take it that you have never been on the Channel ferry and don’t know that it’s so narrow that in some places one can see France across it. People swim across it. Indonesia is rather further away from us than Europe is from England.

        • Corky

           /  December 31, 2018

          No , I haven’t been on the Channel ferry. But I went by rail recently.

          Here’s the point you miss. Those refugees are crossing the Channel because conditions are right and they have a chance.

          Likewise conditions are right for people smugglers to try New Zealand. To be sure, it would be an extreme high risk venture. But it’s possible. I think the only thing stopping smugglers trying is they’d probably be spotted and turned back before they reach the point of no return.

          It’s simply a matter of mind set, not logistics( although that’s still of major importance).

          I once rode a 1st gen stand-up Kawasaki jet ski from near Rabbit Island on the Mt Maunganui main beach, to Mayor Island and back. It this case the reward was ego.
          Everyone told me it wasn’t possible…but it was. I had the mindset to make it happen.

          • Blazer

             /  December 31, 2018

            most illegals arrive by plane..Corkey..thats a fact ..aussies don’t understand..the emotive ‘boats’ issue is politcal..capital.

            • Corky

               /  December 31, 2018

              ”Most illegals arrive by plane.”

              That may be true, I don’t know. But, however they arrive, it has nothing to do with people smugglers giving it a crack from Indonesia.

            • Blazer

               /  December 31, 2018

              why do people flee their countries Corkey..what are the real reasons?

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 31, 2018

            I think that it’s more likely that nobody would want to try sailing that distance; have you any idea how far it is ? The chances of arriving alive would be minimal.

            I have crossed the Channel enough times to how long it takes. When you say that you went by rail, did you mean here or in the ‘Chunnel’ ?

            Your claim about the jet-ski is of no relevance at all, even if one were to believe it. The two things – taking a boat from Indonesia to here and a supposed jet-ski ride – are so unlike each other as to be not worth trying to make them have anything in common.

            Just because conditions are right in the Channel doesn’t make them right on the open sea.

            It is you who are missing the point. It would be beyond high-risk, it would be suicidal, It’s not a question of mindset (to use a tired cliche)

            Do it the other way – here to Indonesia – and then tell me that it’s mindset that matters, not logistics.

          • Kitty Catkin

             /  December 31, 2018

            7548 km, and they’d have to skirt around quite a lot of Australia, I don’t think that it’s likely.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  January 1, 2019

              Again it is Cork who misses the obvious point.

  4. Blazer

     /  December 31, 2018

    well the panel has chosen these 6 to pick the YNZ POTY from

    High Flying Duck-David-Gezza-PDB-Griff-PartisanZ.

    The main criteria was -being a frequent poster
    -original commentary
    -informed opinion without resorting to’ playing the man not the ball’
    -having evidence to backup any proposition

    There have been a number of new ,and very erudite commentators on YNZ in the last few months who have not been considered because the whole of 2018 is the relevant timeframe.

    Cut and paste news,regurgitating other opinions without a personal analysis , ultra biased invective, and ad hominum epithets while sometimes entertaining have not been taken into consideration.

    • Griff.

       /  December 31, 2018

      informed opinion without resorting to’ playing the man not the ball’
      Well that rules me out of contention then.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  December 31, 2018

        Dunno, Griff. Could get a “most improved” award?

    • Conspiratoor

       /  December 31, 2018

      A couple of space cadets in there but otherwise not too shabby

    • David

       /  December 31, 2018

      I am flattered

    • Blazer

       /  December 31, 2018

      the butcher will text me with his selection at 5p.m..and I will post the winner …shortly after that.

  5. Blazer

     /  December 31, 2018

    So the winner and new YNZ POTY is a unanimous decision…the ubiquitous and versatile…Gezza!

    YNZ would not be the same without him.All the best for 2019 Gezza.

    • lurcher1948

       /  December 31, 2018

      Never piss around with great music …a word from the wise

    • lurcher1948

       /  December 31, 2018

      BEGINNERS LUCK…lets check the votes

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  December 31, 2018

      A good choice, B. If I may say so, I was right again. 👍

    • Gezza

       /  December 31, 2018

      Jesus bloody Christ ! I never expected that !
      I probably should say a few words.
      Shit ! I’ve got nothing prepared … hang on …

      • Gezza

         /  December 31, 2018

        Thank god. I’ve managed to cobble something together from my acceptance speech when Corky awarded me the Sherlock Holmes award in July.

        Righto. Here we go:
        My special thanks to
        My mum, my dad, (RIP) my ma, my 2nd dad (RIP, and thanks for ‘like nobody’s business’)
        Bluey, Aspen, Sweety, Pickles, Jojo, Alex, & the triplets, my purple bird people
        GB, OB, Charlie, Prettygirl, & all the kids, Duchess, Ivan The Terrible, Ludmilla & all the duck people, including the mandarin duck, gone too soon
        Seamus Shag & all me sparrers & blackbirds & tuis & Bernard the tiwaka & his g/fs
        Ella, Elvira, Tamaiti, Nuthafulla, Granville & all the other eels – my riversharks
        The late, grate, Sir Alan Wilkinson, RSVP – without whose need to obviously be sorted out I might never have even posted here
        Rev Sir Peter George (For services to beige)
        David
        Pink David
        High Flying Duck – although he sometimes misses the point thru sheer determination to do so
        Griff (sometimes, not often, rather not go into that: it’ll get nasty)
        Blazer – makes me realise how happy I am most of the time
        PartisanZ – always makes me proud of who I am & where I came from
        Possum – for being Maori as & proud of it
        Lizzie Marvelly – for reminding me just how great normal hetero women & mums are
        Kitty Catkin – for not giving a damn & telling it like it is – for her
        Corky – for not giving a damn & telling Kitty how she is – for him
        PDB – for occasionally saying sensible things
        The Winter Energy Payment – for nothing
        Phil Twyford – for surpassing the Winter Energy Payment on that score
        Simon Bridges – for reminding what wincing is
        Judith Collins – for making Simon Bridges look over his shoulder
        Winston Peters – for proving that in politics bottom lines have more to do with bottoms than lines
        Conspiratoor – for reminding me to be wary of people who get info out of you while never giving any away themselves
        duperez – for often having a good, shiny point & knowing how to bury it for treasure hunters
        MaureenW – for letting me know instinctively when I’m not in the mood
        And look – there have just been so many others, too many to mention
        Mwah mwah mwah
        Thank you thank you thank you

        • PartisanZ

           /  December 31, 2018

          Congratulations Gezza!!!! Well done mate!

          And a Hari Hou Tau (Happy New Year) to everyone from First Runner-Up PartisanZ!

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  December 31, 2018

          Missy deserves an honourable mention too, especially for her despatches from the terribly confused old world motherland.

          • Gezza

             /  December 31, 2018

            Very true. Every post of hers is required reading for me. Excellent foreign correspondent and astute conservative political analyst, imo.