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3 January 2019

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  1. lurcher1948

     /  January 3, 2019

    NZME ZB office whiteboard is getting lots of use for their summer hosts
    1-1 Tobacco and smoking
    2-1 Rodeo
    3-1 Drugs and Drug testing
    What will tomorrow bring??the good old days under Sir Key

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    • lurcher1948

       /  January 3, 2019

      Never saw that coming, 9-12 on ZB, lets abuse Nash and his drug testing policy,NZME the National Party radio

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    • lurcher1948

       /  January 3, 2019

      Tomorrow single plastic bags

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  2. Blazer

     /  January 3, 2019

    sorry about that Chief…who’s tough on crime…revealing graph..

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12179119

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    • Gezza

       /  January 3, 2019

      Yeah I read that. I guess they’re finding it hard for content at this time of year if they’re regurgitating old news.

      “This summer we look back at the big stories of last year around the world and closer to home. This story was first published in May.”

      Interesting graph though.

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  3. lurcher1948

     /  January 3, 2019

    Simon Bridges my leader of the opposition

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  January 3, 2019

    Proud to have never read a paper copy of the Auckland Herald in my life(one has to have standards)

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  5. Blazer

     /  January 3, 2019

    NZH…
    Graeber’s five categories of BS jobs
    Goons:

    These are people who act aggressively on behalf of their employer, even if their actions are pointless or harmful. Lobbyists, corporate lawyers, telemarketers and PR people fall into this category.

    Flunkies: People serve only to make other people feel important. They include admin assistants, door attendants and receptionists.

    Duct-tapers: Graeber describes duct-tapers as those employed to attend to problems caused by other employees. This is a bit like hiring people with buckets to empty the water out of a leaking ship.

    Box tickers: These are people who manage the performance of a business, compiling reports and presenting a breakdown of what needs to change. One bank employee who spoke to Graeber said the vast majority of the reports he developed were ignored or not taken on board by his employer.

    Taskmasters: This category broadly refers to middle management, the group largely responsible for managing people who already know what they have to do on a day-to-day basis.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  January 3, 2019

      It’s an excellent concept ‘Bullshit Jobs’ …

      As bullshit jobs are either abandoned or taken over by computers or robots, the real holes in the colander of neoliberal economics will become more and more apparent and leaky …

      If, for argument’s sake, the real un-and-under-employment rate without bullshit jobs is say 25-30% we’ll have to start thinking about viable income alternatives …

      Even an ‘orthodox’ economy can’t function with 25-30% of its consumption power either severely constricted or completely removed …

      And what do people do in order to survive if they can’t be producer/consumers? There’s no Botany Bay penal colony left to ship them to …

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  January 3, 2019

    Hell PG you are getting the boot put in from both sides of the fence,but i think you run a fair blog….lurcher
    Robert Guyton 2
    3 January 2019 at 10:49 am
    Pete George @ Your NZ:
    “It’s hard to measure whether Kiwiblog is worse than The Standard – abuse at KB is generally worse but it is also more open, there’s a more subtle insidious approach often taken at TS – and it is aided by one sided moderation, and promoted by the master moderator, which arguably reflects more poorly on the blog.”

    https://yournz.org/2019/01/03/farrar-acts-on-ongoing-attacks-on-ardern/#comment-336562

    Why do we allow George to comment here?
    His views seem poisonous.

    This poster was from The Standard

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    • Gezza

       /  January 3, 2019

      Hang on I’ll have a look. 😐

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      • Gezza

         /  January 3, 2019

        No worries. Just robert, rabbitting on as usual. Grandies might’ve gone home & he’s got no one of the same mental age to play with at home maybe.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  January 3, 2019

          He can be very entertaining, unlike the longest resident troll who is a bullshitting bore, and I have my own theory about why he is often anything but.

          Are you thinking the same thing, Gezza ?

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          • Gezza

             /  January 3, 2019

            I find the pair of you quite entertaining, to be honest.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 3, 2019

              No, PG had it right. This vendetta has gone on too long. Time to end the stalking and fixation.

  7. kluelis

     /  January 3, 2019

    How did it go so wrong for Labour from 2008 till 2017? Phil over the hill Goff, David Who? Shearer, David I will storm to the greatest victory ever “Cunliffe andAndrew I’m an angry union man Little. And if it weren’t for the enigmatic maverick chameleon waka jumper Mr Peters Jacinda Adern could/should have been the 5th Labour no show leader. Where were the Labour party image consultants? The spin doctors the smear campaign experts? Third term National Governments are usually so easy to describe as being a bunch of rich old capitalists raking it in while the ordinary Kiwi struggles.So why did Labour fail to romp home but instead allow an old Bill English to stroll to victory? Spin doctors and smear campaign masters needed at Labour HQ immediately.

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    • Gezza

       /  January 3, 2019

      Female tv and print media journos manufactured a personality cult around Jacinda because she’s a girl, like them. Up until then she had done nothing and achieved nothing.

      If it wasn’t for Winston Peters seizing the opportunity to exploit Labour’s malleability (he would’ve figured out on the first day of coalition negotiations they had bugger-all policy to speak of, & no idea how to implement the few policies like Kiwibuild that they had announced) Jacinda would just be the leader of Labour Opposition.

      Her background is a Comms degree so she will have studied PR, image management and spin doctoring & is actually good at it, so any advisers they are using are already talking to someone who can evaluate them with a reasonable degree of knowledge.

      She’s an accidental PM really. A manufactured one like the Monkeys were a manufactured group. The Monkeys turned out to have some actual real musical talent. Now we have to see if Jacinda has what it takes to develop into a proper PM in her own right.

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    • Pink David

       /  January 3, 2019

      “Spin doctors and smear campaign masters needed at Labour HQ immediately.”

      Funny how your response to failure is simply to insist on more spinning, more smearing, and not look at the actual policies or people.

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  8. Gezza

     /  January 3, 2019

    Ma and I got caught up in a traffic jam on the way home from Welly Hospital – the chap up top there at the site of a car accident that closed the Terrace Tunnel there is bleeding and has a knife.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109714449/crash-closes-sh1-through-wellingtons-terrace-tunnel

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    • Gezza

       /  January 3, 2019

      Oh, more

      A two-car crash that has forced the closure of the main route in and out of Wellington city was reportedly caused by a man driving the wrong way into incoming traffic.

      And witnesses say after the impact he got out of his car wielding a large knife.
      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12185170

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    • lurcher1948

       /  January 3, 2019

      Interested, hope you or your partner are all right

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      • Gezza

         /  January 3, 2019

        Three Wellington double-decker buses have been brought in to help remove the man who scaled pipes above an entrance to the Terrace tunnel on State Highway 1.

        As at 7.30pm, the man had been above the tunnel for seven hours.

        The country’s main highway remains closed seven hours after the man, who had a knife, climbed above the road following a crash near the tunnel on Thursday.
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109714449/crash-closes-sh1-through-wellingtons-terrace-tunnel

        Any updates on ZB, Lurchy?

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      • Gezza

         /  January 3, 2019

        Some chap on ZB is just saying why don’t they drop a net on him with a helicopter and lift him out like they do when live trapping deer? 😐

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        • Gezza

           /  January 3, 2019

          Now some shouting sheila and the ZB host are saying they think it’s all over now; police to give a press conference at 8.30pm in a coupla mins – he’s just got rid of her. What a raver she was, started off about the cricket I think,

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  January 3, 2019

            Don’t think it’s over. Herald and Stuff not showing any breaking news.

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        • Gezza

           /  January 3, 2019

          Followed by some moron named Kelvin saying they should just shoot him in the leg and when he falls off onto the road just have an ambulance waiting & off they go. :/

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  January 3, 2019

            Mrs Al would be with Kevin on that. Short shrift there.

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            • Gezza

               /  January 3, 2019

              That drop would very likely kill him, Al. It’s about 3 stories up.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 3, 2019

              Yep, realise that. I think he’s cost more than a human life is worth already. Shoot him and put the money saved to better use.

          • Gezza

             /  January 3, 2019

            Man’s 8-hour standoff
            20:43 hrs
            Man perched over a Wellington motorway refuses aid, and police say it could go through the night.
            New video: Inspector Chris Bensemann speaks to media about the man above the Wellington motorway

            Must admit you’d think someone would’ve figured out a non-lethal solution by now. Set up nets below or something.

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            • Gezza

               /  January 3, 2019

              Inspector says he was not being pursued by police.
              Has some personal issues.
              People in the other vehicle he hit suffered moderate injuries and were taken to hospital.
              They want to resolve this without anybody getting hurt. the buses are there to reduce the drop space.
              He could be up there all night, but they hope he will eventually come down himself.
              Asks Wellingtonians to be patient.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 3, 2019

              I guess it’s only Welly so what does closing SH1 and probably causing thousands of people to miss their planes and appointments matter?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 3, 2019

              He’ll probably nod off and fall off anf kill himself anyway.

            • Gezza

               /  January 3, 2019

              Nah, they’ll just have diverted traffic round to Aotea Quay and either round the bays (nice scenic drive) or around via Kent & Cambridge Terrace. They probably haven’t needed to block off any side streets. It’s only the tunnel that’s blocked I expect. Traffic could still access The Terrace as although it’s called the Terrace Tunnel, it’s adjacent to it on the motorway.

              Be interesting to see how long he manages to stay up there though.

            • Gezza

               /  January 3, 2019

              Man ends 10-hour ordeal above Wellington motorway by coming down safely
              Stuff reporters 22:36, Jan 03 2019

              The man who scaled pipes above a Wellington motorway tunnel entrance on State Highway 1 has ended the 10-hour ordeal by coming down safely.

              A Stuff reporter at the scene said the man made his way down just before 10.30pm on Thursday after talking to someone he knew – not a police officer. Soon after he was taken away in a police car.
              https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109714449/crash-closes-sh1-through-wellingtons-terrace-tunnel

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