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7 January 2019

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18 Comments

  1. David

     /  January 7, 2019

    As someone quite dedicated to a healthy lifestyle and diet I have pretty much knocked off drinking now, never a huge drinker but a regular one, and had a ginger beer while out at lunch and ended up with a headache and then had a second lunch. Not being used to much sugar I googled how much sugar is in the Bunderberg, its a lot but the label is in such tiny print I could never have read that so for me instead of tax sugar I think labeling needs to be a lot bigger . Macs do a ginger beer with 40% less sugar but I think its the quite delicious Heineken zero zero for me.
    For someone who has a very very low sugar intake my bodies reaction was alarming, be careful out there.

    • David

       /  January 7, 2019

      Fun Facts from the Institute of Economic Affairs ; In the UK in the 60s people consumed 45kgs of sugar a year and now its 35kgs.
      Total sugar intake since 1992 has decreased 20% and added sugar by 28%.
      4 to 10 year olds are consuming 28% less sugar than they did twenty years ago.
      Sugar sweetened soft drink sales have dropped 46% in the last decade.
      Signs of tooth decay have dropped from 83% to 28% since 1983 in 12 year olds.
      Childhood obesity peaked at 19% and now sits at 16% and is steady.

      I guess we need to get our fat arses off the couch and stop making excuses and on that note I am off to the gym.

      • Kitty Catkin

         /  January 7, 2019

        I don’t drink soft drinks because I don’t like sweet drinks. I did like the soda water with lemon that Pams made, although it had a tiny bit; soda water is, to me, the nicest drink of all. A caff had water with mint in it, and a jug of water in the fridge with a sprig of mint is really refreshing. The mint stays fresh for ages.

        I read somewhere that tooth decay in the UK was up.

  2. lurcher1948

     /  January 7, 2019

  3. lurcher1948

     /  January 7, 2019

    Gezza you are getting a hard time on Kiwi Blog,
    secondcumming
    I thought Pete George had his own blog to run?
    Maybe he’s just getting bored shitless with all those ‘pukeko’ vids……

    Thumb up 8 Thumb down 0 LOG IN TO REPLY REPORTJANUARY 7, 2019 9:09AM
    As SNOWFLAKE righties they sneak in and depart back to their hate filled comfort blanket, the right brave keyboard warriors,

    • Gezza

       /  January 7, 2019

      Well, not really. Even I’m getting bored with all those pukeko vids. That’s why I’ve added some eels and some sparrows.

      • Pickled Possum

         /  January 7, 2019

        Bar-stards!!! Bloody kiwiblog eh gezza what do they know. I bet they all secretly know ALL about Bluey Sweety Aspen and still remeber Pickles with an awww. Wonder if David got this much shit from the BBC. Keep up the fabulously wonderful vids … kidz love them. Where else can some city kidz see pooks and not forgetting the River Sharks who acksully can be domesticated it seems. Given the BIG one a pat yet? ROCK ON GEZZA STREAM.😎😍

    • Gezza

       /  January 7, 2019

      Gezza you are getting a hard time on Kiwi Blog
      Just as well I never visit there any more these days so I don’t know what they’re saying – although now that you’ve let me know …

      PS: Cheers, Possum.

      • Gezza

         /  January 7, 2019

        Hmm. That’s a somewhat bigger rat’s ass than I was expecting. Still, it IS Kiwiblog & they’re a bigger blog than YNZ.

  4. sorethumb

     /  January 7, 2019

    Goff quotes Mahatma Gandhi:

    “[Religions are different roads converging to the same point. What does it matter that we take different roads, so long as we reach the same goal. Wherein is the cause for quarrelling?] And I think those words were wise words indeed. So today we celebrate multicultural Auckland. One of the most diverse cities in the world. Culturally and in terms of different ethnicities and religions” And we celebrate that we do follow those practices of Mahatma Gandhi that we do follow a harmonious society where we respect each other and there is no cause for conflict between any of us. Because we believe in the same thing and work together in this city for the same outcomes that Mahatma Gandhi wanted which was social justice, which was truth and which was non-violence between our peoples.”

    https://multiculturaltimes.news/stories/2018/10/17/auckland-mayor-commends-the-citys-diversity

    Mahatma Gandhi also said

    The English have taught us that we were not one nation before and that it will reaquire centuries before we become one nation. This is without foundation. We were one nation before they came to India. One thought inspired us. Our mode of life was the same. It was because we were one nation that they were able to establish one kingdom.

    I believe that the civilisation into which India has evolved is not to be beaten in the world. Nothing can equal the seeds sown by our ancestry. Rome went; Greece shared the same fate; the might of the Pharaohs was broken; Japan has become westernised; of China nothing can be said; but India is still, somehow or other, sound at the foundation. 
    Greece, Egypt, Rome — all have been erased from this world, yet we continue to exist. There is something in us, that our character never ceases from the face of this world, defying global hostility for centuries.

    The indirect influence of Christianity has been to quicken Hinduism to life. The cultured Hindu society has admitted its grievous sin against the untouchables. But the effect of Christianity upon India in general must be judged by the life lived in our midst by the average Christian and its effect upon us. I am sorry to have to re record my opinion that it has been disastrous. It pains me to have to say that the Christian missionaries as a body, with honourable exceptions, have actively supported a system which has impoverished, enervated and demoralised a people considered to be among the gentlest and most civilized on earth…
    Young India (13 July 1924), reprinted in Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi, Volume 24, New Delhi, 1967, p. 476.
    I wanted to know the best of the life of one (Muhammad) who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind. I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle.

    Why, of all places in Johannesburg, the Indian location should be chosen for dumping down all kaffirs of the town, passes my comprehension. Of course, under my suggestion, the Town Council must withdraw the Kaffirs from the Location. About this mixing of the Kaffirs with the Indians I must confess I feel most strongly. I think it is very unfair to the Indian population, and it is an undue tax on even the proverbial patience of my countrymen.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi

    • Blazer

       /  January 7, 2019

      well how does Gandhi think I India became the best cricket team in the..world?

  5. sorethumb

     /  January 7, 2019

  6. Chuck Bird

     /  January 7, 2019

    Surely, this sort of thing amounts fraud and in some cases child abuse. I believe this happens more often than we hear of and in many cases goes undetected.

    I believe this should be treated as a criminal offence although it will never happen. What do others think?

    Father learns three sons aren’t his after 20 years of parenting

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12186508

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  January 7, 2019

      It’s certainly fraud, I would say, If there had been family assets on his side and they had inherited them although they were no relation, the mother would certainly have committed fraud.It’s cruelty to the children, too.

      It has always happened. The English PM, Lord Melbourne, who inherited the title when his brother died young, was not the child of his mother’s husband, Lord Melbourne, and it was an open secret that he wasn’t. But he still inherited. George Eliot’s partner couldn’t divorce his wife because he had let his name be put on the children’s birth certificates, thus condoning her adultery. Lord Melbourne, the putative father of the PM, would have been in the same situation.

      Have you read The Wiltshire Scandal (the Mordaunt case)

    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  January 7, 2019

      My reaction was that he had mishandled the situation by losing his relationship with the boys. Twenty years of parenting should have survived the genetic discovery especially when his wife was the cheat.

      More to it I think.

      • Chuck Bird

         /  January 7, 2019

        Alan, do you think this is fraud and if not why not?

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  January 7, 2019

          I think it is cheating, not fraud. If he thought the children were his he was obviously having sex with his wife and she may well have been unsure who fertilised her.

          Also there is no evidence in this story she deliberately set out to get pregnant by her lover or to defraud her husband.

          Why do you think it is fraud and what evidence do you have that would support a charge of fraud?