Conservative and liberal views of science

GMO=genetically modified organism

This is in the United States. I would guess we don’t  as many (proportionally) or as conservative conservatives here as in the US, but have nothing to base this on but observation.

It’s interesting to note that here the Greens have been strongly against GMOs.

It comes from this thread on Twitter:

 

Source: Conservative and Liberal Views of Science, Does Trust Depend on Topic?

 

21 Comments

  1. Patzcuaro

     /  12th January 2019

    The only person that conservatives trust is Trump and God of course.

    • PartisanZ

       /  12th January 2019

      Mike Pence too I hear …? Or does he fall into some category other than ‘conservative’?

      Where do Alt-Right Fundamentalist Christian Conservatives fall on this spectrum?

      A more pertinent question might be: Why are any of those subjects in the graphs considered ‘science’?

      Aren’t they all industrial applications of science distorted by such things as economics – markets, money and manipulation?

  2. PartisanZ

     /  12th January 2019

    Pete, I know there’s around about 1100 truly hard-core Conservatives … give or take a few too cowardly to identify themselves …

    So, let me get this straight … In the truly ‘Conservative’ world-view, vaccination is 50/50, climate change is around 70% not happening, nuclear power is 60/40-ish – although we’ve no idea what proportion relates to what scientific opinion – for or against(?) – evolution theory is 70% wrong &/or bad – probably ungodly too – and finally GMOs are 70% acceptable [presumably?] …

    Huh! Go figure …

    • Pink David

       /  12th January 2019

      “So, let me get this straight”

      That’s not what you were trying to do at all, given your waltz off into nonsense…

  3. Corky

     /  12th January 2019

    Well, that explains a lot about liberals, doesn’t it. They appeal to authority. They are stuck in these little bubbles like some on this blog. Unable to get their heads around anything out of their comfort zone. Anything that needs to be thought about.

    Climate Change..manmade, I assume…89% of liberals believe what scientists tell them!!

  4. Chuck Bird

     /  12th January 2019

    The climate is getting warmer and the sea level is rising. However, no one knows how much is caused by human activity. Those who claim they do are fools or liars and conmen like Al Gore and so-called scientist who are paid to come up with a certain view.

    • Griff.

       /  12th January 2019

      Do tell us more about this conspiracy chuck?
      I love having a good laugh.
      Nasa
      The world bank
      The UN
      192 governments .
      All major scientific body’s.
      97 % of climate scientists.
      University’s.
      The World health organization.
      The World meteorological organization .
      Every valid political party in NZ.
      And many others…..
      Are all in on this hoax?

      Maybe we should apply Occams razor .
      Yip
      You are your co whackos are the ones who are wrong.

      You note that temperatures were declining before we started burning fossil fuels with the industrial revolution .
      This suggests more than all the warming is man made.
      Unless you can find an as yet unknown force that has warmed the earth exactly as we expect CO2 to do and can prove over a hundred years of atmospheric physics are wrong. .

      • Griff.

         /  12th January 2019

        FWIW
        We are now off the scale of the above chart with a rise of about 1.15C in the last 150 years.

        • Chuck Bird

           /  12th January 2019

          Hey Griff, How did Greenland get it’s name?

          • Griff.

             /  12th January 2019

            Hay chuck whats that got to do with your wacko conspiracy?

            The Saga of Erik the Red states: “In the summer, Erik left to settle in the country he had found, which he called Greenland, as he said people would be attracted there if it had a favorable name.”[22]

            Trump is nothing new real estate developers have been dishonest for ever….

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th January 2019

              I have read that Greenland was much warmer then.

              They did have original names then; Greenland, Iceland, Vinland….

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  12th January 2019

              In the UK, the stock line was that an MP was after the house, which was supposed to make it more desirable if the buyer didn’t wonder why an MP would live nowhere near the constituency.

  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  12th January 2019

    Has anyone done the same analysis fifty years ago? I suspect the results might have been reversed.

    I also suspect it is the science that has changed and become political, not the non-scientists.

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  12th January 2019

      So do I.

      Did you stockpile supermarket bags ? I did. Not that I use many, but I now have enough to last for years, possibly life at the rate at which I use them.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  12th January 2019

        Got a cupboard full but we use a lot so they won’t last too long.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  13th January 2019

          I always have reused mine, so my conscience is clear. It seems idiotic that bin liners will still be sold…like most people, I use Pak & Save bags for these, and empty them into the black bag so that they can be reused in the kitchen bin. This also means that it takes longer for the black bag to be full.

          I like tote bags, but always have a plastic bag or two in them.

          • phantom snowflake

             /  13th January 2019

            I’ve been using biodegradable bin liners which are made from corn starch. They’re made by ‘Big Black Sacks’ company. A good option, I have found, but not as robust as traditional plastic bags so have to be handled more carefully.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  13th January 2019

              Do they break down in landfill ? Compostable ones need to be in compost bins to break down. I use mine until they split, then wash them and put them in the recycling bin. They go for a long time before this happens.

            • phantom snowflake

               /  13th January 2019

              The manufacturer provides little information beyond “100% compostable/ biodegradable.” However I have noticed that the bags degrade if liquid is pooled in them, which as well as being a drawback, is suggestive that they would readily biodegrade.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  13th January 2019

          The Warehouse is still selling them.

  6. Alan Wilkinson

     /  13th January 2019

    My guess was on target: At the beginning of the survey, in the 1970s, conservatives trusted science more than anyone This 2012 article gives a far better world and historic perspective:
    https://www.livescience.com/19341-conservative-trust-science.html