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12 January 2019

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  1. Corky

     /  January 12, 2019

    Ontario/ Canada now has its own Islamic Party. They want Sharia law. Not much chance of power at the moment, but given the changing demographics and immigration that will change over the coming years.

    Their Face Book and Twitter accounts are interesting. The Twitter account seems to be for propaganda and inspiring the faithful. Their Face Book page seems to be a honey trap for
    Infidel nutters who don’t think before commenting. Who don’t realise they are indirectly supporting the Islamic cause with their anti Muslim hate. There’s also some good anti Jew stories.

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    • Corky

       /  January 12, 2019

      This is interesting in relation to the above. It seems Australia’s cautious approach was not appreciated? Or, was this teen told there was a strong Arab community in Canada. And better still, Canada has a wet liberal leader?

      But then again..she is marked for death after leaving Islam. Maybe not the best country to choose.

      https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/11/19/30/rahaf-mohammed-alqunun-saudi-teen-granted-asylum-in-australia

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      • NOEL

         /  January 12, 2019

        Wonder what the ABC journalist who hasn’t learnt that historically her profession distanced itself from activism really thinks?.
        Sophie McNeill

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        While I’m obviously delighted Rahaf is safe & can now share the news she is headed to Canada, I am disappointed she is not being resettled in Australia. This had been the plan.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  January 12, 2019

          Needless to say that the video’s crap and that the party only has one member; the leader.

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          • Corky

             /  January 12, 2019

            Qui docet,discit.

            Ignorance casts its own shadow.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  January 12, 2019

              ‘Who teaches, learns.’ Indeed, but irrelevant here.

              If ignorance casts its own shadow (most things DO cast their own shadow rather than something else’s) you must live in a permanent shade.

              It pays to check sources (or even Snopes) when it comes to this sort of thing. But the facts are never any deterrent to the bigot and their views.

              Cortex asininissimus est.

            • Corky

               /  January 12, 2019

              Not really if you think about it. You try to teach…uninvited. But you never learn. In fact, without Google your expression of knowledge is very circumspect and limited. If you weren’t so annoying you would be the blog jester.

            • Griff.

               /  January 12, 2019

              A nice little picture for you corky .
              Don’t lick the screen now.

            • Corky

               /  January 12, 2019

              You have posted that about four times already. I think I and everyone else gets the jist of your trolling.

  2. Corky

     /  January 12, 2019

    This crap didn’t happen when I was at school. What’s changed? Oh, that’s right…

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz//nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12188171&ref=clavis

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    • Blazer

       /  January 12, 2019

      so you didn’t have the strap or the cane when you went to school??

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    • PartisanZ

       /  January 12, 2019

      ‘Schools use force 13 times a day as classroom ‘chaos’ escalates’ – Heraldo …

      The peasant children are revolting!!!

      But there couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with the 19th century model Industrial Revolution ‘schools’ we compel them to go to and lock them up in 6 hours a day in the 21st century …

      There are 2,531 schools of all types in NZ, so if each of the 13 ‘episodes’ happens at a different school, ‘restraint happens at 0.5% or 1/2 of one percent of schools daily.

      There were 770,000 school students in NZ in 2009 (when there were 2,581 schools), so if each of the 13 episodes of ‘restraint’ happens to a different student, it happens daily to 0.0016% or sixteen ten thousandths of all students …

      That’s not all: “New rules requiring schools to file reports every time they physically restrain a child show that children were restrained 3309 times in the first 15 months AFTER THE RULES CAME INTO FORCE, an average of 13 times on every school day.”

      So we have no stats on what was happening before the new rules came into force, another than anecdotal data supplied by teachers that it’s “on the increase” …

      Is that so!? When I went to AGS in the early 70’s there would probably have been 13 canings AN HOUR, every single day! It was that era’s form of restraint. ‘Weak’ teachers had to use it to assert authority. The alternative was to ‘break’, which at least one did … while drunken mongrel sadists like one who later became a famous talkback host caned to satisfy their ‘urges’ … whatever those were …

      But there couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with the 19th century model Industrial Revolution ‘schools’ we compel the peasant children to go to and lock them up in 6 hours a day in the 21st century …

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      • PartisanZ

         /  January 12, 2019

        Perhaps what I really mean is: In other words Mr Heraldo …

        What a load of alarmist fucken twaddle …

        Or … A strategically placed indoctricultural ‘infomercial’ for … “Children need different support structures when they get to school because at home they are not given guidelines the way we were,” she said.

        Might be Matt King eh? Talking about a town full of “no hopers” in Kaikohe …

        The Elephant in the Room remains: What are the institution problems with ‘school itself’?

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      • Corky

         /  January 12, 2019

        ”3309 times in the first 15 months.” That’s the take home stat. The rest of your calculations are commentary. I guarantee those stats were nothing like that in the olden days.

        Quite agree with you on our antiquated school system, although I don’t impute any political angle in my observations..apart from the Marxist teacher unions.

        I have said before, all schooling basics under my education model would be taught to kids via hypnosis. That would free them up to develop their creativity and natural talents.

        But my point is this. Introduce corporal punishment back into schools tomorrow, and many of these problems dissapear overnight.

        Now, there’s no doubt about some teachers ‘getting off’ on CP. Therefore all punishment should be recorded and witnessed as happened at my school.

        Simple stuff. Simple solution. And that’s the problem…too simple. But fear not, Parti, nothing will happen. Things will get worse. The Herald will do another obligatory story..and on it goes.

        Which talkback host do you speak of?

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 12, 2019

          Introduce corporal punishment back into schools and you’d create a whole new set of problems – some being unintended – plus a return to many of the old ones – e.g. notches on belts, sadism etc – and simply add them to the already existing problems …

          I doubt many teachers would agree to do it anyhow?

          The fundamental problem with ‘school’ is ‘school’ itself …

          TOP’s education policy is on the right track … add four ‘C’s to the three ‘R’s … Creativity, Collaboration, Communication and Critical Thinking … maybe ‘Civics’ too at some point … and I say remove as much Compulsion as possible …

          Complex stuff, complex solution, which is why we’re so afraid of it, especially Conservatives …

          Not sure I can say who? I guess I’ll get moderated if I can’t … but since I saw the whole thing at close quarters, including the vicious, vicious caning, remember the names of those involved and would testify to it in a Court of Law … It was Murray Deaker.

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          • Corky

             /  January 12, 2019

            ”Introduce corporal punishment back into schools and you’d create a whole new set of problems – some being unintended – plus a return to many of the old ones – e.g. notches on belts, sadism etc – and simply add them to the already existing problems.”

            As I said, all punishment would be filmed. No one would get away with anything.

            ”I doubt many teachers would agree to do it anyhow?”

            Correct, it’s now the snowflake generation who honestly wouldn’t have a clue about how the real world operates..and how to handle kids from a rough upbringing.

            Damn..Murray Deaker. Well, maybe guilt caught up with him when he had a breakdown on air.

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            • PartisanZ

               /  January 12, 2019

              You’re referring to the rapidly approaching micro-surveillance ‘real world’ I assume …

              In this real world of yours, which I note is simultaneously a return to traditional values – with the notable exception of privacy – perhaps the punishment could be both administered and filmed by drone-teacher robots?

              Hopefully the “snowflake generation” is just the transitional generation after which there’ll be fewer and fewer kids from rough upbringings?

              When you and I are long gone and ‘school’ has an entirely different meaning …

              Yeah … Deaker … He was a “see you next Tuesday” kinda bloke back then … Many of the popular kids from rough upbringings loved and admired him … especially the ones with alcoholic fathers and/or mothers …

              It’s only occurred to me this very day that he may have done what he did at that dreadful morning assembly simply to impress those popular kids from rough upbringings …

              That there’s some kinda ‘teaching’ huh!?

      • Warren

         /  January 12, 2019

        At GAS caned for nt getting 50% in Latin tests 2hile at least one master softened caned the whole class..30 + students not the measly 20 teachers want today

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        • Warren

           /  January 12, 2019

          AGS and while mobile phone to small for my fingers

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 12, 2019

          You’re against reduced class sizes Warren?

          Along with being in favour of mass corporal punishment?

          Okay … Go figure …

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          • PartisanZ

             /  January 12, 2019

            “Own up … or the whole class gets it!” …

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  January 12, 2019

              The autistic children seem to be very much over-represented. The idea that it’s their ‘right’ to go to an ordinary school (and preferably have a dedicated teacher aide) doesn’t take into account the right of everyone else to not have their school day disrupted.

              In the days of corporal punishment, one teacher, who wasn’t there long because he was a pervert as well as a sadist, had his arm in plaster and would knock the pupils around the head with it for little, if any, reason. He did it to me once, and I still remember the shock of being hit (and it HURT) when I had done nothing to provoke it.

              BUT..if corporal punishment worked, why was it necessary to repeat it?

            • Corky

               /  January 12, 2019

              If medicine worked,why is it necessary to repeat it? Maybe because the patient needs more than one dose?

          • PartisanZ

             /  January 12, 2019

            One of my consolations during senior years at AGS was the 1968 movie “IF” starring Malcolm McDowell as Mick Travis, a rebel lad who leads a revolution at an old-established private school in England … Brilliant film!

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    • Pink David

       /  January 12, 2019

      “Centuries of institutional racism have kept African-American and Latinx communities from attaining anywhere near the wealth of white families. ”

      Please explain why Asians have been missed out of this ‘institutional racism’.

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  3. Blazer

     /  January 12, 2019

    Bertrand Russell…

    ‘“If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes.

    But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.

    If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, the situation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.”

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  4. lurcher1948

     /  January 12, 2019

    Miles Davis is a host now on National party Radio ZB , the money must have been good Miles…sad about the scruples

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  5. lurcher1948

     /  January 12, 2019

    WOW Miles is being sucked into the WAKO world of Kiwiblog GD, the, moon landing and the death of Kennedy, FARRAR is a magnet for dribbling nutters, but hey they vote for Simon Bridges, so you would appear as a dribbling nutter

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  6. lurcher1948

     /  January 12, 2019

    God what the hell was the prime newsreader at 5.30pm, wearing on her face, she looked as hideous as Donald Trumps face spray, HIDEOUS funny brown colour

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  7. Griff.

     /  January 12, 2019

    Earth’s Magnetic Field has Moved Unexpectedly and Scientists Aren’t Sure Why

    https://www.newsweek.com/earth-magnetic-field-baffle-scientists-north-pole-siberia-canada-world-1286507

    Extract: “Earth’s north magnetic pole is moving fast and in an unexpected way, baffling scientists involved in tracking its motions

    “The error is increasing all the time,” Arnaud Chulliat, a geomagnetist at the University of Colorado Boulder and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), told Nature. He said finding out the WMM had become inaccurate placed scientists in an “interesting situation” with experts wondering just what was going on.

    According to Nature, a geomagnetic pulse under South America in 2016 shifted the magnetic field unexpectedly. This was exacerbated by the movement of the north magnetic pole. “The fact that the pole is going fast makes this region more prone to large errors,” Chulliat is quoted as saying.

    Researchers are now trying to work out why the magnetic field is changing so quickly. They are studying the geomagnetic pulses, like the one that disrupted the WMM in 2016, which could, Nature reports, be the result of “hydromagnetic” waves emanating from Earth’s core.

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