Hooton: “the real corruption in the New Zealand media”

Matthew Hooton gets good coverage in media, but he is quite critical of the hand that feeds him publicity in ‘I’m completely squeaky clean’: an interview with Matthew Hooton (The Spinoff):

“I think the real corruption in the New Zealand media comes from so-called academics frankly and Labour Party operatives embedded in the media.

“If I look at the people in PR who commentate and the people who work for unions I don’t think they represent any threat to the integrity of the New Zealand media compared with people who are basically political activists posing as journalists.

“…in New Zealand – and it’s a worldwide problem – commentary has moved into reporting. It’s terrible. When I started doing political commentary 30 years ago the basic facts of what might have occurred were established by reporters and reported in quite a bland almost boring manner. And then there were the commentators.

“One of the big risks, one of the problems that’s occurred, and Fox News is the most notorious, is the merging of reporting and commentating. That’s a far greater issue than some PR person or union boss popping up and saying what they think.”

I think he could have a solid point here – especially as the media has control of which PR person or union boss pops up and what is published, but at times seem out of control with their own involvement in commentating and influencing politics rather than just reporting. At times the lines between journalism and activism seemed badly blurred.

“Corruption” was the word he chose in August last year to describe TV3 political editor Tova O’Brien’s reporting on the Simon Bridges expenses story – which, of course, ended up mutating into the Jami-Lee Ross saga. His remarks at the time seemed – how to put it? – a bit hysterical.

“Oh, it’s a phrase,” he breezed. “They enjoyed that and ran it on the news. It was good for their ratings.”

‘Good for their ratings’ is a major factor in the evolution of political media. Most functional politics is quite boring and un-newsworthy, so there tends to be an overemphasis on the sensational and over-sensationalised.

“It’s hyperbole. That was taken from a talkback context and they put it on the news, right? It’s all fine. But that’s the biggest risk in the New Zealand media I think – where does reporting stop and where does commentating begin?”

One change has been more prominence given to the reporter over the report – media (mainly television) try to make celebrities out of reporters.

Another change is the way news is presented to us. Newspapers (the print versions) still tend to have news sections and opinion sections so you have a good idea what you are getting in each part of the paper, but online (on their own sites these articles are arranged by popularity and clickbaitability.

Or by Twitter or Facebook, who may not care about differentiation between news and opinion.

There is probably nothing we can do about this. Some of us may be discerning and able to differentiate between news, commentary, opinion and activism, but to most people it is mostly a big mash up and they see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.

But this has diverted from a key claim made by Hooton – “the real corruption in the New Zealand media comes from so-called academics frankly and Labour Party operatives embedded in the media”.

However this angle was not explored in the interview. This deserves more attention.

It’s well known that many journalists get recruited in political PR departments – but ‘Labour Party operatives embedded in the media’, if true, is a serious accusation with no sign of evidence.

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  1. Blazer

     /  January 13, 2019

    Hooten can’t hide his bias.
    What does he think Crosby Textor did for Key?

    What does he think Ede and his black ops were?

    The cohort of Roughan,Young,Armstrong,O’Sullivan,Hosking,Smith ..all may as well have been employed by the Nats.

    Where on earth did the notion that National are a ‘safe pair of hands’..’sound financial managers’…come from and become..accepted by a large sector of the population!

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    • Griff.

       /  January 13, 2019

      Heard Hooten getting interviewed on zb over the Global compact for migration.
      He came across as a totally unhinged right wing loon ranting nonsense and shouting over the interviewers calm questions.
      Pot calling the kettle black.

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      • Corky

         /  January 13, 2019

        In what way, Griff? Was he for or against the compact?

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        • Griff.

           /  January 13, 2019

          He was rabidly gibbering rubbish that has nothing to do what the actual compact says.
          NZ already complies with the compact. We treat the legal immigrants we allow into NZ with basic human rights and give them a path to full citizenship, have compliant legal processes to detain and vet illegal migrants and allow genuine refugees the chance to join our population if they meet our criteria,
          Hooton was claiming signing would mean we lose sovereign right to limit migration in any way.
          That is just right wing ranter wrong.

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          • PartisanZ

             /  January 13, 2019

            Sounds like a kind of Right-Wing version of the supposedly Left-Wing objections to TPPA – except possibly with even less foundation in truth?

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          • Corky

             /  January 13, 2019

            ”Hooton was claiming signing would mean we lose sovereign right to limit migration in any way.”

            ”That is just right wing ranter wrong.”

            Really? Why did Australia and other countries reject the compact?

            Because, as a token gesture, they are sending a message to those socialist drips at the UN that no one will tell them how the sovereignty of their country will be implemented.

            The other reason is because they know what starts out as a non binding agreement, will down the road become mandatory.

            Hooton was just telling you what you don’t want to hear..ranting or not.

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            • Griff.

               /  January 13, 2019

              Oh dear
              Why did Australia and other countries reject the compact?
              Because Au uses the dodgy work around for its own legally mandated human rights by illegally intercepting boats in international waters and detaining illegal immigrants off shore so they do not have access to the legal recourse within the Au legal frame work.
              I know its hard for you to read though the dribble licking the screen leaves behind.
              NZ already fully compiles with the compact on migration…

            • duperez

               /  January 13, 2019

              “Why did Australia…?” or “Why is Australia…?” as if New Zealand should do the same as them? If they’re always right maybe we shouldn’t decide anything, just wait for them to make their minds up and we follow. Let’s do things their way on everything.

            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              Another possibility is that Australia and Australian politics are majorly dominated by Right-Wing ranting loons …?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 13, 2019

              @duperez, checking out the reasons someone else did something is not the same as blindly following them.

            • Corky

               /  January 13, 2019

              ”I know its hard for you to read though the dribble licking the screen leaves behind.”

              Poor ole, Griff taps out again. If in doubt, troll it out.

            • Corky

               /  January 13, 2019

              Duperez:

              Re read Alan’s comment.

              We didn’t blindly follow Australia. We blindly followed Jacinda. Not that we had any choice.

    • Corky

       /  January 13, 2019

      ”Hooten can’t hide his bias.”

      Neither can you. Hooton called out John Key’s office as corrupt and called for an inquiry?

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      • Duker

         /  January 13, 2019

        Thats just because Hootons beef was with Keys staff- Eagleson and that other couple.
        They returned the ‘favours’ – double payback

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        • Corky

           /  January 13, 2019

          That wouldn’t explain his other criticisms of National I have heard him express, like his philosophical disagreement with the way the party has and is heading.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  January 13, 2019

      “Safe pair of hands” is one of the best available examples of “if you repeat it often enough it becomes the accepted truth” …

      National’s PR machine ‘influence’ of the media must have cost a LARGE fortune!

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      • Corky

         /  January 13, 2019

        I guess the bottom line is individuals nowdays need more intellectual nous than ever to wade through the spin and bias of our modern media spectrum.

        So obviously such skills start with good education. And where do the majority of our population receive such education? Why, in our Marxist run education system.

        Yep, climate change, environmental issues and the sins of filfy witches are all preloaded.

        Then they get jobs as journalists…. and magically start rooting for the Right.

        I remember some of the replies journalists made to Bob Jones’s columns over the years. To do a rough summary it’s: ‘you think just because you have money you can say and do as you like.’ To that Sir Bob replied.. Yes! 😄

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 13, 2019

          Ah yes … When all else fails, resort to “the long march through institutions” …

          Where are the whistleblowers again …?

          And if heavily-disguised, life-long ‘deep cover’ operatives are marching their way through academic, educational, environmental and other ‘institutions’ … How come some of them aren’t marching their way through business institutions including large corporations?

          Or do large corporations have some secret method of filtering them out?

          In which case: Where are the whistleblowers?

          And if it’s so successful, this “Long March”, how come the Right haven’t copied it?

          Or have they?

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          • Corky

             /  January 13, 2019

            ”Ah yes … When all else fails, resort to “the long march through institution.”

            Everything has a beginning. It’s easy to argue the effect…and not the cause.

            ”And if heavily-disguised, life-long ‘deep cover’ operatives are marching their way through academic, educational, environmental and other ‘institutions.’”

            There are no heavily-disguised deep cover operatives. No need. They just need educating..like new teachers at training college who begin their studies not with the three R’s, but with the Treaty Of Waitangi. And if you question the tutor, he turns on you like a rabid dog and cries Racism..white privilege.

            And so a new class of educational Marxists are trained without being any the wiser.

            They will teach a new generation of journalists.

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            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              You’re actually quite comical at times Corky … I gotta laugh …

              So people who have reached the age of say 20 – 25, going off to Training College, are still so childishly impressionable and susceptible to indoctrination that all you have to do is begin their teacher training with classes in Te Tiriti o Waitangi and … BANG!!! … they’re Marxists for life?

              None of them, not one, have come from Christian Conservative &/or National Party, ACT or NZFirst homes … and be vaccinated against Marxism? (Which is the same as saying: Not one of them is a Christian Conservative ‘deep cover’ operative) …

              And, FFS, since new teacher trainees have probably got the three ‘R’s down by their age, and since the nation of New Zealand itself began with Te Tiriti o Waitangi, why shouldn’t New Zealand teacher training begin with “The Treaty”?

              “And so a new class of educational Marxist’s is created” to teach “a new generation of journalists” … Optimal Delusional Paranoia … ODP …

              I might cross your bridge a shade more often though Corky, just for the side-splitting fun of it …

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 13, 2019

              Why should teacher training be based on the start of nationhood? Does UK training begin with the Magna Carta? French with the Déclaration des droits de l’homme et du citoye? US with the Declaration of Independence?

              And if so, why is the NZ version so silent about all the rights the other nations deemed so important but apparently are not important to NZ teachers?

            • Corky

               /  January 13, 2019

              ”So people who have reached the age of say 20 – 25, going off to Training College, are still so childishly impressionable and susceptible to indoctrination that all you have to do is begin their teacher training with classes in Te Tiriti o Waitangi and … BANG!!! … they’re Marxists for life?”

              Er, no. You forget the 20-25 year olds have already had the basics installed in them during their schooling. Call teachers college, ”finishing school.”

              ”None of them, not one, have come from Christian Conservative &/or National Party, ACT or NZFirst homes … and be vaccinated against Marxism? (Which is the same as saying: Not one of them is a Christian Conservative ‘deep cover’ operative) …”

              Oh, for sure. But they don’t last long. They are ‘gang banged’ by fellow students and tutors to make sure they realise the choice is simple:
              tow the approved line, or fuck off.

              Been to school lately, Parti? Have a look junior syndicate teachers who are just starting out. The faces are different..but the mannerisms and ‘Kia Ora’s are all the same.

              “And so a new class of educational Marxist’s is created” to teach “a new generation of journalists” … Optimal Delusional Paranoia … ODP …”

              Eh, not directly, no. Indirectly yes. Now you are being funny, Parti. You should laugh more often… and make fun of yourself occasionally.

            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              Alan, US education begins from Day 1 with the pledge of allegiance …

              You’ll have to elaborate on “rights which are so important to other nations” that we [according to you] do not observe … What do you mean?

              Okay Corky, so the delusional paranoia is embedded in your DNA.

              Actually, the [what you call] “mannerisms and ‘Kia oras'” are roughly aligned with the ‘centrist’ or ‘moderate’ social progression of our culture …

              It’s flowing through everything … much business included … except perhaps the highest echelons of corporate-elitism …

              How about Existential Delusional Paranoid Ultra-Sanctimony … EDPUS …?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 13, 2019

              @PZ: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

              Your Treaty-mongers are hell-bent on creating racial distinction and your socialists have no respect for Liberty and regard pursuit of your own Happiness to be intolerable capitalist selfishness.

              They’ve had their brains smashed.

    • david in aus

       /  January 13, 2019

      What do they say about con men? They can see another one a mile away.
      Hooten, we know he is biased and he declares the obvious ones. He is calling out the obvious.
      The media stooges should declare themselves, or call themselves commentators and broadcasters and not journalists.

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  2. Ray

     /  January 13, 2019

    Interesting that our two resident lefties come out shouting it just can’t be true that there are Labour operatives embedded in the media!
    Well actually they claim the other side do it but still interesting.
    The question is how many Labour sympathisers spend their time trolling the parties that opposes them?

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    • Griff.

       /  January 13, 2019

      ROFL
      1 I am not a “lefty”.
      2 I said nothing about left wing commenters just pointed out Hooten is rabid right on at lest one issue.
      3 I DID NOT SHOUT.

      Interesting that you can not even get basic facts right .

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      • PartisanZ

         /  January 13, 2019

        Rather like a Right-Wing reporter embedded in the media is Ray …

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 13, 2019

          Ray, I can absolutely guarantee Griff is not a “Lefty” … Just check out his opinions on Maori …

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          • Pink David

             /  January 13, 2019

            It’s quite possible to be both left wing and not subscribe to every single talking point. However, I would never have considered either Griff or Blazer ‘lefties’ . Blazer is just an old fashioned conspiracy geek.

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            • Blazer

               /  January 13, 2019

              name one conspiracy I BELIEVE.

            • Pink David

               /  January 13, 2019

              I have no idea what you BELIEVE, but you do post an awful lot about ‘bankers’.

            • Blazer

               /  January 13, 2019

              so withdraw this then…’. Blazer is just an old fashioned conspiracy geek.’

              I post factual content about bankers that no one has been able to refute.

            • Pink David

               /  January 13, 2019

              “so withdraw this then…’. Blazer is just an old fashioned conspiracy geek.’”

              I really see no need to do so. That is my opinion and you really have not done anything to change that.

              “I post factual content about bankers that no one has been able to refute.”

              Like I said, you do post a lot about bankers….

            • Blazer

               /  January 13, 2019

              and like I said…’ that no one has been able to refute.”!

      • Spotty

         /  January 13, 2019

        “Interesting that you can not even get basic facts right .”

        You mean like Hooton’s surname?

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 13, 2019

          OMG!!! Well spotted Spotty … That’s the argument won Right there!

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  3. PartisanZ

     /  January 13, 2019

    “I think the real corruption in the New Zealand media comes from so-called academics frankly and Labour Party operatives embedded in the media … basically political activists posing as journalists.”

    Here’s the real giveaway though –

    “One of the big risks, one of the problems that’s occurred, and Fox News is the most notorious, is the merging of reporting and commentating. That’s a far greater issue than some PR person or union boss popping up and saying what they think.”

    1) Fox News!!! Shit! The world’s deeply in the Lefties’ grip if Fox News is his best example! Fox News are what? … Right-Wing … or Alt-Right? They described detention facilities for refugee children forcibly separated from their parents as “Summer Camps” … with straight faces …

    2) PR people don’t “pop up and say what they think” … PR people control what anyone who “pops up” has to say! The greatest ‘danger’ in the media is undoubtedly the embedded or graft-access PR people … from whichever side … although I believe True Bluey’s distinctly outnumber Reds in this arena …

    They’re the one’s responsible for the ‘Transport’ lift-outs posing as journalism which are basically PR advertorials for ‘Four Lanes + Chinese Investment’ … and for the weekly or bi-weekly repetitive quasi-articles espousing the same through the utterances of Matt King & Shane Reti (up this way) … Each electorate will have their examples of this sort of thing …

    Keep it in “the public eye” … Repeat it often enough and it becomes “the accepted truth”.

    It stands to reason Blueys have the advantage in manipulating the media … they’ve got the business backing … the corporate-political ‘lodge’ behind them [and within] … They’ve got the money …

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    • Duker

       /  January 13, 2019

      His idea of a ‘left wing ‘ journalist who was committing a ‘partisan bias’ was Tova Obrien and the leak of Bridges limo travel
      ROFL.
      ( The partisan bias would be if it showed the real truth – Bridges was going round the country in limo visiting the partys regular donors and raising money. ( small meetings in small towns) It was cabinet club on steroids. Now both partys do that so that would be a teensy bit unfair to make it the ‘lede’. Anyway average voters get riled up up over fat cats in limos anyway , so that was all the lede you needed.

      Who wouldnt take up a story that showed – eventually- a mole in the caucus. Any reporter would see a ‘storm in a teacup’ story was going to lead to bigger things.

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  4. Colin Wilson

     /  January 13, 2019

    C’mon Pete, we all know how corrupt our media have been during the last 15 months Nothing but fluff pieces and cover ups of just how incompetent and lazy our PM is.

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    • Corruption is a strong accusation, and for that I’d like to see evidence. I think it’s on a different level to laziness and celebrity obsession.

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    • Blazer

       /  January 13, 2019

      where you been for the previous 9 years..Col?

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    • duperez

       /  January 13, 2019

      Just for those who don’t follow things that closely Colin, could you outline the laziness of the PM over the 15 months. How did she spend her time, what did she actually do? What didn’t she do which she should have done? How has the shape of her days differed from those of previous PMs?

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      • Duker

         /  January 13, 2019

        Ive heard for a major company the top job is described as this: Upwards and Outwards. Ardern is the Upwards and Outwards category

        That is decisions come up through the business and either something straightforward is confirmed or its difficult and a final decision has to be made by the CEO – who could still defer. Outwards to passing those decisions onto the wider shareholders/public/ government and or engaging in public debate on issues that are of interest to the company.
        Those down the ladder in the company concentrate ‘inwards and downwards, that is is this working of , or a new project is on track, or developing a new project with input from every one involved.
        Those would be Ministers and heads of departments. And so it would continue down the managemnt ladders.
        Ministerial aides would specialist in small areas of policy or legislation or anything thing else.
        Back bench Mps would be both outwards facing for their electorate and be a specialist is a small area for the party.

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  5. Pink David

     /  January 13, 2019

    “1) Fox News!!! Shit! The world’s deeply in the Lefties’ grip if Fox News is his best example! Fox News are what? … Right-Wing … or Alt-Right? They described detention facilities for refugee children forcibly separated from their parents as “Summer Camps” … with straight faces …”

    He was using Fox as an example of blending news with opinion and not being clear about it.
    Did you miss that bit?

    “The greatest ‘danger’ in the media is undoubtedly the embedded or graft-access PR people … from whichever side … although I believe True Bluey’s distinctly outnumber Reds in this arena ”

    I’m curious to what makes you think this advantage goes to the conservative side? Ms Ardern is a PR person, and all the science would say the PR profession is staffed by people who lean left. Then you have another example of people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who is exceptional at PR.

    “It stands to reason Blueys have the advantage in manipulating the media … they’ve got the business backing … the corporate-political ‘lodge’ behind them [and within] … They’ve got the money …”

    There is plenty of reason to believe the opposite is the case. The vast majority of people in the media are left wing for a start. It’s quite possible that many in the media don’t actually know anyone who is right wing.

    Does that not confer a major advantage?

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  January 13, 2019

      Blueys may have their money but Lefties have our money.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  January 13, 2019

      What can I say Pink David … Hooten has a ‘duty of care’ to be clear about it IMHO …

      I’m very happy to have a look at the “science” which says the PR profession is staffed by people who lean Left … got a link for that!?

      I’ve seen a number of other claims from Righties that “the vast majority of people” believe this or that … Maori seats removed … cannabis kept criminalized … no End of Life Choice etc etc … which turns out to be from surveys conducted among the members of quasi-organizations like NZCPR … Surveys with a 98% margin of error …

      The major advantage will always be with the money … Rogerednomics proved that beyond any semblance of doubt …

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      • Pink David

         /  January 13, 2019

        “I’m very happy to have a look at the “science” which says the PR profession is staffed by people who lean Left … got a link for that!?”

        All soft skill professions are left leaning. PR is a sub-set of psychology, and that is almost entirely left (>85%). There is plenty of reliable science covering this.

        “The major advantage will always be with the money … Rogerednomics proved that beyond any semblance of doubt ”

        An advantage. Both sides have these.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 13, 2019

          The cunning stunt neoliberalism has pulled off is to make it very difficult for social-democratic ideas to be projected as advantageous …

          Their not advantageous except in the bigger, more expansive, tangential and ancillary sense.

          If it’s all about ME ME ME, how can ME paying more tax to benefit everyone in the whole of my society look attractive?

          Especially if I don’t really think of it as “my” society? If I’ve been indoctricultured to believe there is no such thing as community, communal well-being or the common good?

          And especially those individuals from my whole society – which I don’t accept as being mine anyhow – my fellow human beings who I’ve been taught and conditioned to despise, fear and hate?

          So it’s not “my land” … It’s just the trade-able commodity Real Estate … and ‘they’ are not “my people” … They’re just …

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          • PartisanZ

             /  January 13, 2019

            More correctly, “I’ve been indoctricultured to believe that MY personal needs, wants and desires are immutably equivalent to ‘the common good'” …

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  6. thespectrum

     /  January 13, 2019

    I gave up watching the 6 0clock TV news in 1975 because it obviously was not news but an infomercial for middle aged right wing whites because that’s where the money is and TV back then was a very expensive medium. It was more economic reality than political bias. It was done that way to attract audiences to prime time TV. News papers have always been far more balanced because they are not so expensive to produce and people can take time and reread articles . The Holmes show and talk back radio again through economic realities were always heavily white right wing middle aged focused. Talk radio like George Baloni was the first ZB talk back host and was a raving right winger. Even today 1ZB eg Leyton Smith is as alt right as it is possible to be. Kiwi blog is another alt right site aimed at white middle class right wingers because that is where the money is. Its really about money and consequently power. Money talks.

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    • Pink David

       /  January 13, 2019

      “I gave up watching the 6 0clock TV news in 1975 because it obviously was not news but an infomercial for middle aged right wing whites because that’s where the money is and TV back then was a very expensive medium. It was more economic reality than political bias. It was done that way to attract audiences to prime time TV”

      This pre-dates commercial TV in NZ by years. I don’t think there were even ads on TV in 1975….

      “middle aged right wing whites ”
      “white right wing middle aged”
      “white middle class right wingers”

      You seem to have an issue here.

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      • Corky

         /  January 13, 2019

        Yeah, that’s if there wasn’t cricket on..or another transmission break down. I think we did have choice though..TV2. Learn’t to play many Bobby Goldsboro songs during that time when TV2 used him as an interlude when they broke down.

        THANK GOD FOR CAPITALISM AND A FREER MARKET.!!!

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        • Blazer

           /  January 13, 2019

          ‘Bobby Goldsboro songs’… 😉

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          • Corky

             /  January 13, 2019

            Yeah, ”Summer The First Time.”. I think we upgraded to Albatross a few years later.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  January 13, 2019

          A FREER MARKET … and the immigrants who come with it, eh Corky?

          Globalization of course has, and always will, include a ‘freer’ labour market …

          Over 35 years the Right have made an absolute mockery of the word “free” and its derivatives like “freedom” and “freer” …

          You might as well say, “A Level Playing Field” … [ROARS of laughter!!!!] …

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          • Corky

             /  January 13, 2019

            Well, less cricket, less Bobby, more TV channels and the internet has sealed the deal with me , Parti. I’m a Rightie. I want the good things in life. You are a welcome to empty shelves and working for the collective.

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            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              And you’re welcome to give up your job to a Muslim immigrant …

              What does “less Bobby” mean?

              There is no way of knowing whether more TV channels and the internet would not have happened in a social-democracy … which was never immune to market forces …

            • Corky

               /  January 13, 2019

              ”And you’re welcome to give up your job to a Muslim immigrant …”

              Now you are starting lose it, Parti.

              ”What does “less Bobby” mean?”

              Less TV transmission failures we`’d still be having if the state ran everything. Bobby’s music filled in the interludes when archaic technology failed.

              ”There is no way of knowing whether more TV channels and the internet would not have happened in a social-democracy … which was never immune to market forces …”

              True, but we can have a good guess. Let’s put democracy in North Korea and see what happens.

      • thespectrum

         /  January 13, 2019

        Pink David
        “This pre-dates commercial TV in NZ by years.
        I don’t think there were even ads on TV in 1975″….
        As with the majority of your comments you are so badly wrong.
        Advertising was introduced to Aucklander’s on 4 April 1961.
        You are a lot younger than many of us here so your ignorance
        is often a result of your poor appreciation of history.

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        • Pink David

           /  January 13, 2019

          “Advertising was introduced to Aucklander’s on 4 April 1961.”

          My god, it took you 14 years to work out “it obviously was not news but an infomercial for middle aged right wing whites “. Clearly. you are a slow learner.

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          • thespectrum

             /  January 13, 2019

            @Pink David.
            Again (as usual) you are wrong.
            We did not get TV until 1970.
            You just assume and make a fool of yourself time after time.
            Trap for young players.
            I focus on the facts evidence and the truth.
            You should try it sometime.

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            • Pink David

               /  January 13, 2019

              “We did not get TV until 1970.”

              I’m confused, you remembered the date of the first ad so well, I had assumed it was a formative experience for you.

              “I focus on the facts evidence and the truth.”

              I hear that a lot, yet what do I see;

              “middle aged right wing whites ”
              “white right wing middle aged”
              “white middle class right wingers”
              ” raving right winger”
              ” alt right site”
              “alt right ”

              That’s a lot of bigotry for someone who makes the previous claim.

            • thespectrum

               /  January 13, 2019

              No silly I looked up the first commercial broadcast date online. Its called research.
              You should try it some time.

            • thespectrum

               /  January 13, 2019

              “white middle class right wingers”
              ” raving right winger”
              ” alt right site”
              “alt right ”

              That’s a lot of bigotry for someone who makes the previous claim”
              .
              No bigotry at all just describing a demographic its done all the time.
              All big businesses in fact most businesses and political parties
              sell product to target groups based on demographic.
              Its called “research” something you are loath to involve yourself in.
              Leighton Smith is definitely an alt right host no doubt.
              ZB is definitely a right wing network no doubt.
              Kiwi blog is so obviously heavily right wing.
              Why even pretend to deny the obvious.
              Your just being silly again.
              Remember.
              “When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

  7. PartisanZ

     /  January 13, 2019

    Here’s a POSSIBLE example of the reporting-commentary overlap and how subtle it might be in some cases. David Fisher’s ‘Big Read’ article NZ Herald 20 December – ‘The desolation of Kaikohe and the single punch which ended a man’s life’ …

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12178975

    Aside from the killing, a Mayor’s regret about what his own government did to Kaikohe when he was MP mixes with Matt King’s “town full of no hopers” and Shane Jones’ “economic abandonment” …

    But how did these two ‘subjects’ become interwoven like this in the first place? Was it entirely the ‘reporter-commentator’s’ choice? Did an editor suggest it? If so, what are the editor’s leanings? What other forces might have been at play?

    I’m thinking of a book I read which stated (to paraphrase): First and foremost, the loyalty of the media is to it’s owners …

    There was no ‘Big Read’ in-depth article about Kerikeri when Jaydin Locke’s February 2017 coward’s punch landed Derek Tanner in hospital with severe head injuries he was still suffering the effects of in April 2018 …

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12026879

    As Kaikohe local John Coleman said in his excellent letter-to-the-editor in last week’s Northland Age, “the social problems are the same everywhere” …

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    • Pink David

       /  January 13, 2019

      “There was no ‘Big Read’ in-depth article about Kerikeri when Jaydin Locke’s February 2017 coward’s punch landed Derek Tanner in hospital with severe head injuries he was still suffering the effects of in April 2018 …”

      So, write the article.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  January 13, 2019

        Pink David, You Righties use the most extraordinary methods of deflection …

        Do you know who David Fisher is?

        I probably could write it … but I don’t have his experience and connections.

        And there’s the rub regarding this reporting-commentary topic … experience … and connections …

        It would be extremely interesting to know what PR forces came into play in writing an article about Kerikeri … The District Council, for instance, would move their Offices there from Kaikohe in the wink of an eye if they could …

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        • Pink David

           /  January 13, 2019

          “Pink David, You Righties use the most extraordinary methods of deflection ”

          It’s a story you feel is neglected. the onus is on you to address it if you feel so passionate about it. I don’t know Fisher, nor anything about those places.

          “And there’s the rub regarding this reporting-commentary topic … experience … and connections ”

          You gain these things by doing.

          “It would be extremely interesting to know what PR forces came into play in writing an article about Kerikeri … The District Council, for instance, would move their Offices there from Kaikohe in the wink of an eye if they could”

          Then ring the guy who wrote it and ask him. Do the investigation you feel is missing.

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          • PartisanZ

             /  January 13, 2019

            What you’re saying is: I have to do the investigation because the Fourth Estate is neglecting its generally accepted role as being investigators and reporters in favour of being commentators …

            And … I rest my case.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  January 13, 2019

          Almost anyone would move from Kaikohe to Kerikeri in the wink of an eye if they could, PZ.

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          • PartisanZ

             /  January 13, 2019

            You wouldn’t want all those “no hopers” over Kerikeri way though, would you Alan?

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 13, 2019

              Probably closer to home for you than me, PZ. But I’m sure there are many who could/would have a better life there.

            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              You mean with all the work available in Kerikeri Alan?

              Don’t kid yourself. There’s already a poor underbelly – for want of a better description – in Kerikeri-Paihia-Russell …

              The ‘merging’ of Kaikohe with Kerikeri would simply make that poor underbelly realistically proportionate per capita for a district which – aside from ‘enclaves’ like Keri – has been “economically abandoned” for 30 years until Winston came along as MP in the bye-election …

              Instead we have the present situation where privilege and poverty are “ghettoed” between prospering East Coast ‘Tourism & Retirement’ towns and what Matt King, their very own Parliamentary representative, describes as “deprived communities” full of “no hopers” in the ‘Farm and Forestry’ “Heartland” Centre and Wild West …

              King should maybe have a think about who did the “depriving”, when and how?

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  January 13, 2019

            Winston has done what exactly? Hopelessness is peer culture and family induced. Kerikeri gives more chances to break out of that. Lefty regulation keeps many poor but again Kerikeri gives more chances to surmount the regulatory barriers to employment.

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            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              You mean the culture induced by family members and peers who are completely dissociated from the the culture of their settlements, communities, districts, regions, nation and the world?

              You, like Matt King, don’t give them much credit.

              I should have mentioned Horticulture in Kerikeri shouldn’t I?

              “Spray and walk away!” … Which may not be quite so good for retirement folks … but is kept out the tourists’ gaze … aside from the tourist-workers.

              “Spray and walk away!” is an excellent example of “surmounting regulatory barriers” actually …

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  January 13, 2019

              B.s. I give them credit for being able to break out whereas you want to keep them trapped in colonised helplessness permanently.

            • PartisanZ

               /  January 13, 2019

              You gave them a modicum of back-handed credit Alan, that they could “break out” on the proviso they moved away from Kaikohe …

              Very similar to Matt King’s assertion that the spirit of Kaikohe will be revived by removing the young people from the town for ‘training’ …

  8. PartisanZ

     /  January 13, 2019

    I may owe David Fisher a conditional, reserved or partial apology … There was a ‘Big Read’ article written with Peter De Graaf about Jaydin Locke’s coward’s punch … although it doesn’t interweave any commentary about the nature or ‘culture’ of the place: Kerikeri …

    It does, however, get mixed-up with the Matt King sponsored, Alfred Ngaro supported ‘Coward’s Punch’ Bill then before Parliament, which creates a new charge under the Crimes Act allowing up to 20 years imprisonment for coward’s punch causing death …

    The article therefore has a ‘Blue’ tinge to it … and all I’m doing is asking: How did that ‘Blue’ tinge come about?

    King’s ‘Coward’s Punch’ Legislation won’t make any difference to Derek Tanner, Locke’s victim, who survived Locke’s cowardly assault …

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11996641

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  January 13, 2019

      @Parti
      I think that David Fisher is a good investigative journo but I do wonder if he has a problemo with Maori … he sometimes writes as he has … puts all Maori in the same too hard basket …

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      • PartisanZ

         /  January 13, 2019

        Kia ora Possum … I’d certainly rather have David Fisher doing investigative journalism than not have him doing it …

        Personal bias is another thing that must surely enter into much or all journo-commentary?

        But if there is ‘influence’ of various subtle or not-so-subtle sorts on Fisher and others ethically top-class work – and I’m only asking not accusing – where does that leave much less ethical journalists … and perhaps their much less ethical bosses?

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  9. phantom snowflake

     /  January 13, 2019

    Peter Aranyi at ‘The Paepae’ is a frequent and, at times, vociferous critic of Matthew Hooton. In this article from last August he takes aim at Hooton’s “corrupt media” meme.

    But this week, in response to a news story on TV3/Newshub Matthew Hooton really went spare. He reached into a dark corner of the propagandist toolbox.
    The story was Simon Bridges’ roadshow cash splash: $113k in taxpayer money on limos and hotels (arising from an intriguing early leak of National MPs’ travel expenses) which highlighted how much Crown limousine travel Simon Bridges had run up as Leader of the Opposition in the last three months.
    Apparently in a state of high upset, Hooton accused a prominent TV political editor of ‘corruptly’ running ‘a despicable smear campaign’ (oh, the irony) against the National Party leader. The reporter was, it should be said, merely doing her job, reporting a news story. But in Hooton’s fevered conspiracy theory, she is engaged in a ‘personal vendetta’ to remove Bridges as National Party leader, having formed a view he’s ‘not modern enough’ to lead the party. (Don’t get me started on his other conspiracy theory about how women in senior journalism roles is somehow A Very Bad Thing for his beloved National Party. Matthew, pls.)
    His preposterous, bullshit claim of a ‘vendetta’ carried out by an ‘extreme left-wing’ journalist is no innocent misunderstanding. It’s a strategy.
    Hooton, for whatever reason, most likely his longstanding partisan loyalty to National (“deep in my DNA” remember, as he said here) is peddling a ‘lügenpresse‘-style (lit. ‘The lying press’) conspiracy theory: smearing news coverage of which he doesn’t approve as ‘corrupt’ and untrustworthy. What a piece of work. Desperate.

    http://www.thepaepae.com/matthew-hootons-latest-fevered-conspiracy-theory-lugenpresse/38539/

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  January 13, 2019

      Silly nonsense. He’s not claiming a conspiracy, just Lefty journalist activists doing what they always do.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  January 13, 2019

        What a piece of work Alan. Desperate.

        The quotes attributed to Hooton absolutely REEK of conspiracy theory!

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        • Corky

           /  January 13, 2019

          The Whaler has some good back posts about this guy.

          Reply
        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  January 13, 2019

          @,PZ, they don’t. Unless conspiring with yourself is now a thing as in “personal vendetta”.

          And how a bad thing for the National Party becomes a conspiracy theory is a mystery known only to yourself.

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