Gender progress at Otago University

This year Otago University has widened their gender options, and at the same it is reported that 60% of domestic students are female.

ODT: Uni adds gender options

Whereas in the past students could choose female, male or X for indeterminate, students this year can identify as “gender diverse”, and, if they want to, specify whether they are a male or female, a transgender man, a transgender woman or non-binary transgender.

There is also the option of calling themselves Mx or Id in addition to the titles Mr, Mrs, Miss or Ms – and students can change their gender in their student details without having to provide any supporting paperwork.

So you can fairly freely choose how to identify your gender. Anyone who doesn’t like the new options doesn’t have to use them.

This looks like gender is getting complicated, but it is complicated for some people.

OUSA former queer support co-ordinator Hahna Briggs said she was “really happy” students could now use those options to express their identity.

“Students were able to change their gender marker after enrolment to M, F, or X (X for indeterminate) but they had to provide a statutory declaration or an updated passport to make this change. Now this process is so much easier”.

OUSA president for 2019 James Heath said the new university process was “in line with common practice”.

“From an OUSA perspective we welcome, and celebrate, openness with regards to gender diversity with a goal to make Otago the most inclusive campus in NZ.”

Feedback about the change from students online was very positive, describing the move as “awesome” and “fantastic”.

Most young people should be quite open and liberal about this – but there could be some complications regarding use of gender assigned facilities and qualification for gender separated sports.

Also from ODT:  Uni women outnumber men 60:40

A gender studies specialist says the 60:40 split of female and male domestic students attending the University of Otago last year is part of a trend across most Western countries — though it might be slightly higher at Otago than at other universities due to the emphasis on health sciences.

Gender disparities were “subject-specific” and last year there was a slightly larger difference at Otago than usual, probably because of the role of health sciences at the university, Fairleigh Gilmour said.

Generally, men tended to outnumber women in engineering and IT, while women tended to dominate in health-related disciplines.

There are now many more female medical and dental students, but other health fields will lean even more heavily towards female numbers.

Statistics seemed similar at most other universities around the country for students. 2017 splits:

  • Victoria University 55% female, 45% male (all students)
  • Auckland University of Technology 61% female, 39% male (domestic students)
  • University of Auckland 57% female , 43% male (all students)
  • Massey University 60% female, 40% male
  • University of Waikato 58% female, 42% male (all students)

One bucked the trend…

  • Lincoln University 49% female, 51 male (all students)

…but that could reflect on the Lincoln specialising in agriculture.

Why are significantly more females going to university than males? It may in part be due to trade qualifications being done at polytechnics. More males may get into work without qualifications. And there could be more males unemployed or in other sorts of training.

But it is clear that as far as university education is concerned females are dominating the numbers.

Knowledge is power in a number of ways.

26 Comments

  1. thespectrum

     /  14th January 2019

    Gender split on YourNZ. Men 97% Women 2%. TG ?. Does the constant stream of male rage turn women away? Do women have other sites? FB? Are men fighting imaginary world wars while women are cleaning up the mess men leave, caring for the young and the elderly? Division of labour? Your thoughts.

    • “Gender split on YourNZ. Men 97% Women 2%.”

      I doubt if it’s anything like that extreme by comment or by commenter. There is no way of knowing.

      • thespectrum

         /  14th January 2019

        Kitty Catkins “appears” to be the only women poster on this site.

        • Pickled Possum

           /  14th January 2019

          Oiii!!! Possums can be whoaman too you know.

          • Pickled Possum

             /  14th January 2019

            ok down ticker I will play just for today is it the mis-spelling of woman you didn’t like or is it just how you perceive me holding my tongue while typing my scant comment or was it because it is scant or are you just a raging man ..
            Aaaaa huh that’s it IMHO

            Raging man
            rage no more
            you are irrelevant
            that’s for sure.

        • Joe Bloggs

           /  14th January 2019

          and MaureenW, and Missy, and Bloggs

          bipolarspectrum is bloviating into the wind

          • phantom snowflake

             /  14th January 2019

            I usually like your work, but using “bipolar” as an insult?? That hurt!

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  14th January 2019

            First ever uptick from me, Joe. Spectrum blew it big time.

        • Kitty Catkin

           /  14th January 2019

          And it’s Catkin, not Catkins.

          That’s five of us girls, and others visit.

    • Pickled Possum

       /  14th January 2019

      Constant rage from men
      Is boring but does it keep us away?
      Trolls who think they know everything about the anonomouse us … wont keep us away.

      Up tick if your a woman
      down tick if your a man.
      Do nothing if your ‘other’ 😨

      • thespectrum

         /  14th January 2019

        As you say Possum men’s constant rage is not boring because as you say we keep coming back for more. So what does that mean?

        • Pickled Possum

           /  14th January 2019

          Sir Spectrum ….today you are a woman sheesshhh can’t keep up
          OHHHH you are ‘other’ I see clearly now the rain is here.

          I said ‘constant rage from men is BORING but does it keep us away?

          We are not frightened of raging men most of us have lived with 1 or know 1 or have watched a TV show with 1 in it.
          So we YnZ women readers commenters are not put off by the resident ragers we have learnt that everyone has a right to have a say (even you know who)

          • thespectrum

             /  14th January 2019

            “(Sir) Spectrum ….today you are a woman sheesshhh can’t keep up
            OHHHH you are ‘other’ I see clearly now the rain is here?”
            I am confusing you huh?
            Plan is working.
            #I can see clearly now the rain is gone
            I can see all obstacles in my way
            Gone are the dark clouds …
            Gonna be a bright sun shining day
            #Writer Johnny Nash.

            • Pickled Possum

               /  14th January 2019

              yes, you got that song right.
              Why do you want to confuse me?
              That’s boring …man
              I am here on this site to learn and learn I have
              but interaction with game players man or woman can be even more boring than a raging man.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  14th January 2019

              I still can’t up or downtick.

      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  14th January 2019

        That’s unfair, Possum. You know I never downtick.

      • Griff.

         /  14th January 2019

        Up tick if your a woman
        down tick if your a man.
        Do nothing if your ‘other’ 😨
        7 1
        The sisterhood rules!
        Chuckles quietly to himself.

        Who cares we have a range of views why do you need to paint tits or a prick on them?

  2. Pickled Possum

     /  14th January 2019

    ‘But it is clear that as far as university education is concerned females are dominating the numbers.”
    Could it be more men go to Harvard Uni or some such like in America
    or just go overseas to finish their specialist studies? like The 2 Northland Shanes

    • Kitty Catkin

       /  14th January 2019

      Harvard is difficult to get into and the education there is no better than othe universities.

    • David

       /  14th January 2019

      The feminization of education and the explosion of non STEM courses available at little charge will see this trend continue.
      The group with the worst life outcomes in the UK are poor white males, quite a societal shift.

      • Gezza

         /  14th January 2019

        My impression is that boys have fallen behind girls at school and this has been a trend for some time. I’m sure someone’s posted stats to show that’s happening here. It probably follows this is reflected in lower numbers of university admissions as well, but I think maybe boys are also more likely to get into doing things with computers and not proceeding with formal education. Trades are short of recruits I thought? Too much involvement by women in their upbringing and education now, not enuf by men. Many boys and young men I think are battered psychologically (not usually harshly) by too many educators and mums who aren’t men and don’t know how to teach them to be men. They’re anxious and too full of testosterone and bravado to admit it or even know it.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  14th January 2019

          All sadly true, G. And a lot of stuff they see on the screen and think is man stuff is crap stuff.

  3. David

     /  14th January 2019

    Given the massive increase in females identifying as males and the near static movement the other way the 60:40 split could in the future be hiding the terrible gender gap in university study.