Media watch – Tuesday

15 January 2019

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  1. MaureenW

     /  15th January 2019

    I wonder if Stuff gets paid for banging on about the man-made element of climate change. This article attempts to isolate the man-made carbon-emissions factor from the earth-tilt factor, and states
    We’ve got to keep emissions as low as we can otherwise we will go back to levels not seen in 14 million years.
    (I wonder who saw them 14 million years ago?)
    https://i.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/109924074/rising-carbon-emissions-putting-antarctic-ice-sheet-under-threat

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    • Gezza

       /  15th January 2019

      Possibly Winston Peters. And I wouldn’t be too surprised if Trump said he did if there were some votes in it.

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    • Duker

       /  15th January 2019

      You have hit the nail on the head maureen
      Stuff has a backroom deal to publicise these tenuous global warming stories.

      What they dont say about the earths tilt is that within the last 11k years were mostly within an Ice Age- which still partly exists. The peak glacial was about 22k years ago.
      Increases and decreases within that period existed as well and extended back millions of years.
      The evidence is that tilt was a biggest factor in forming an ice age and that temperatures rose and fell without the burning of fossil fuels. That inconvenient truth isnt mentioned either.
      Parts of Auckland ( as well as other places in NZ) still have deposits of wind blown soils that occurred during that period as the seal level was out near Great Barrier and and it was too cold for much plant life so the wind could blow the surface soil around
      This is at Timaru, where it was one of the first places recognised as connected to glaciation

      https://teara.govt.nz/en/photograph/8395/john-hardcastle-loess-pioneer

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th January 2019

        I was going to say Trump and Winston Peters would have seen them, but I was beaten to it. Bugger.

        The weather in the other half of the world doesn’t seem very warm.

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      • Griff.

         /  15th January 2019

        The evidence is that tilt was a biggest factor in forming an ice age and that temperatures rose and fell without the burning of fossil fuels. That inconvenient truth isnt mentioned either.

        Changes in incoming solar radiation as a function of latitude in December, January and annual average, due to the astronomical Milankovitch cycles (known as orbital forcing). Source: Marcott et al., 2013.

        Changes in temperature since we came out of the last glaciation note the uptick at the end due to our CO2 emissions.

        In your eagerness to gibber conspiracy about what is not mentioned you missed the part were orbital forcing means temperatures should be declining my friend.
        Source.
        http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/09/paleoclimate-the-end-of-the-holocene/

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        • Griff.

           /  15th January 2019

          As to the effects on Antarctica and sea level
          This is the yearly melt in billion tones for the last 40years.

          The melt is doubling every six years .
          Combined with acceleration in ocean warming and the northern ice melt from Greenland we are seeing see level rise accelerating.
          Presently it is about 4mm a year we expect it to reach over 10mm a year by the end of the century perhaps sooner.
          It will keep on rising for a thousand years or more.
          source
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/energy-environment/2019/01/14/ice-loss-antarctica-has-sextupled-since-s-new-research-finds/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ef569a85adb8

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        • Corky

           /  15th January 2019

          Still beating the drum of bs, Griff? You can be thankful we have a media peopled by idiots. That allows fanatics like you free reign to shovel bs.

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          • Griff.

             /  15th January 2019

            Lick lick licky lick lick

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            • Corky

               /  15th January 2019

              Is that the climate change projection model for 2019, Griff? 😄

          • Griff.

             /  15th January 2019

            Lets qualify that insult shall we
            All graphs are from peer reviewed science published by acknowledged experts in their fields and referenced to the sources so you can check for your self.
            I know it hard for you to understand though the dribbling ignorance you call your opinion .
            That is not “rubbish” it is humantys best understanding of the world .

            I seldom comment on climate change unprompted.
            I am merely countering the ignorance I see posted by those fanatics who dont know what they are talking about.

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            • Corky

               /  15th January 2019

              Well, here’s the thing, Griff. I treat people how they treat me.

  2. High Flying Duck

     /  15th January 2019

    With all the bad things in the world right now, sometimes a story of such immense courage arises that you cannot help but be lifted and your hope for humanity restored. The comments he has received reflect the true inspirational story he has shared:

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  15th January 2019

      He may well be being satirical at the expense of people who take themselves veddy, veddy seriously when it comes to this sort of thing….and the genuine ‘news’ stories about how some ‘celeb’ has cut/dyed/curled their hair 😀

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th January 2019

        I think that he’s a trans man.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  15th January 2019

          Yes … possibly … but we don’t REALLY know do we?

          He might just be a genuinely sensitive soul …

          They do exist … although they’re very seldom seen on political blogs …

          High Flying Duck may have searched one out on Twitter to pillory?

          If so … Well done HFD!!!

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  3. Kitty Catkin

     /  15th January 2019

    The unlovely Traveller family claim to be leaving tomorrow, Yeah, right.

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    • NOEL

       /  15th January 2019

      Not to worry they now have 28 more days.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th January 2019

        Oh, I am glad, as they are now not too far from me.

        I do hope that they don’t have trouble finding places to stay now that they have been on the news and everyone knows all about them. 😀 😀 😀

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  15th January 2019

        If I’m in town tomorrow, I might see them if I’m (un)lucky, they’re unmissable.

        You’d wonder what they took the car salesman for. How many are there ? Did he say that five children were in the back of the van – no seats.

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        • duperez

           /  15th January 2019

          Looking on the bright side, some of the coverage has been entertaining:
          “So in lew of an infringement notice one of the adult passengers was taken to the local Warehouse …” 🙂
          https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/109940444/rude-travelling-family-cause-police-call-out-to-hamilton-burger-king

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  16th January 2019

            What’s the point of a fine? They won’t be around to pay it. Just get the buggers out and hope that you’re not on the plane with them.

            The girl in the cafe I had lunch in said that they’d all been told not to let them in. (the caff is in the Casino)

            As they’re Travellers (i.e. transients) in Ireland, they won’t have a regular income, I suspect, so are probably criminals. They would only need the fare and a bit for petrol, as they don’t seem to have paid for much.

            If I was going to do that, which I never would, I’d be making myself as unmemorable and as undescribable as possible; I’d be quiet and not draw any attention to myself.

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