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16 January 2019

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    • Pickled Possum

       /  16th January 2019

      ‘She was refused bail and was to be held in the court cells to reappear later in the morning.”

      “Urgent free legal aid”….why how and WTF
      Great to see NZ slinging out louts … just a few more hundred thousand to go!

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    • Gezza

       /  16th January 2019

      Disgusting people; no respect for anyone, including themselves, selfish arseholes. And in their seventies ! Hope someone got their plate number.

      Doesn’t say whether they were Kiwis or foreigners, so I’m assuming they were NZers.

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      • Pickled Possum

         /  16th January 2019

        might be the travellers grandees what a pair of disgusting people.
        Hope the law find them and give them shit!!!

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  16th January 2019

          They’re Travellers, not Romany gypsies; in other words, transients, as far as I know.

          It’s worth the legal aid to get the buggers out of the country. I was in Hamilton city centre today and if I’d gone past the Court House I’d have seen the charmless wonders. People going past on the city shuttle bus must have had a lovely vision.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  16th January 2019

            Wrong place, can’t be bothered rewriting.

            The Travellers are in the Waikato, lucky us. These dirty sods should be easy to trace. Lazy brutes.

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  1. PartisanZ

     /  16th January 2019

    Half page, paid, Bluer-than-Blue advert in the Northern Advocate today … simple layout, simple message … oft repeated …

    ‘Dr Shane Reti – MP for Whangarei’

    – Four Lanes, not sticks
    – Medicinal cannabis
    – Cancer radiotherapy

    “Doing the work”

    I invite you to ponder those spin-doctored, catch-cry words for a moment …

    Four Lanes … whenever … but no sticks until then … (So plenty more deaths “going forward” until we can collect our PPP payback tolls. Those sticks probably prevented the three car collision Alan was so inconvenienced by the other day from being a fatal). Tolls … not sticks.

    Medicinal cannabis!!! FFS! This is the National Party talking!

    Is this the same National Party who voted down Chloe Swarbricks Bill and then sabotaged the Select Committee process of Labour’s ‘Clayton’s Legislation’ … finally claiming that its ‘minor extensions’ are entirely Reti’s work!?

    I can’t claim anything for certain about radiotherapy availability in Whangarei, but I believe the new Oncology Unit at Whangarei Base Hospital was opened in 2015 or thereabouts. Is Reti actually talking about something that’s ‘new’ or even current? [Someone may know?]

    It’s like a Blitzkreig almost every day! In almost every newspaper!!! It’s a Bluezkreig*

    Who’s paying for this? Could it be the taxpayer, even in part? Are these adverts legal?

    Gotcha!!!! Thanks for your suggestion Blazer, but Bluezkreig is my new word # 200.

    Yay! PartisanZ!!!

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    • duperez

       /  16th January 2019

      The other day AW asked what Winston Peters had achieved. What he has achieved is getting the Northland National MPs into action and being visible. The game of ‘we care’ is suddenly important.

      My dealings with the previous Whangarei MP showed he and they were in cruise mode. Make waves by pushing like hell for SH1 to be dramatically upgraded? No way, it wasn’t important. Strange now how it’s the biggest thing in the world needing attention.

      So much so that Reti wants money taken off roading projects in other provinces so we can travel at 110kph on our ‘Waikato style’ motorway while presumably it’s okay for those in other regions to die on their less safe roads. Matt King and Reti haven’t put that on their roadside billboards for some reason.

      The main road certainly needs improving. We kept hearing that there are proportionately a high number of deaths on it. It is such a dangerous piece of road that those big hoardings have been erected in various places alongside it to distract drivers?

      Ironically, like the signs that used to be on roadsides welcoming us to Mike Sabin country, they have a symbolism wider than they could have foreseen.

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      • PartisanZ

         /  16th January 2019

        Yes, it’s sorta like the new tribalism … Regional tribalism … to which we Far Northerners are expected to and many willingly are giving up our District affiliations …

        What’s in it for us?

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  16th January 2019

        @duperez, the next extension was already comitted. Why would they need to push like hell when it was already happening under National?

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        • duperez

           /  16th January 2019

          Because they want to be visible and show they should be in Government?

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  2. Gezza

     /  16th January 2019

    Some of you may recall me posting in General (now Social) Chat that after visiting Te Papa I spent Saturday afternoon with my sister and her hubby on the Wellington wharf front, with many others, enjoying the sunshine, and particularly the frolicking of these many beautiful dolphins, in the harbour all day on Saturday.

    Anger after jet skiers chase dolphin pod in Wellington harbour


    Jet skiers get close to dolphins in Wellington. Photo / Mark GeeJet skiers get close to dolphins in Wellington
    … … ….
    Then this:
    Locals have slammed the actions of jet skiers amid claims they got too close to a pod of dolphins in Wellington harbour.

    About 30 or 40 dolphins swam around the waters of the capital yesterday delighting spectators in Oriental Bay and Evans Bay.

    However, the pod of dolphins was disrupted by a pair of young men on a jet ski who he said “ploughed” through the group. “I was quite shocked to see them do that,” Gee said. They kept going round and round chasing the pod, he said, adding he could hear them “yahooing” as they carried on. “They definitely split the pod up.”

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12189545

    Ma told me on Monday morning that it came over the ZB news they are going to be prosecuted. Not sure by whom, but I bloody hope so.

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    • Griff.

       /  16th January 2019

      D O C are the marine mammal authority
      They have a hot line
      https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/native-animals/marine-mammals/sharing-our-coasts-with-marine-mammals/
      Dolphins at night in clear water following a boat are an amazing sight.
      They activate the phosphorescence so you get glowing tubes of sparkly green light in an otherwise black sea.

      I hope they chuck the book at the idiots.
      Fuck jet skis and all who sail on them…. anti social noise making shite .

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      • Griff.

         /  16th January 2019

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      • Corky

         /  16th January 2019

        I own a jet ski, Griff. Definitely most owners are reasonable people. However,admittedly, there is a solid core of fuckwits who own JS. Mostly yuppie types who can’t conceive of enjoying the outdoor without using technology. The problem with modern JS are their massive horse power…and the fact some people don’t realise they have no brakes.

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        • lurcher1948

           /  16th January 2019

          Jetski owners, hooning arseholes usually rightwing who ruin peoples peace,scare mammals, are sexually useless, so a noisy toy between their legs is all they can get….covered it all i feel

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  16th January 2019

            I agree, they are a bloody nuisance. I don’t think that they are right wing, but they are the rest. They’re like people who hoon up and down beaches in cars. You forgot to say that they endanger people as well as fish and sea mammals.. boy racers on the water. The kind of people who can’t enjoy themselves without as much noise as possible, or appreciate the beauties of nature, as they haven’t the imagination to see it as anything but somewhere to race up and down, either in a car or other vehicle, as noisy as possible.

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            • Kitty Catkin

               /  16th January 2019

              The bigger the jetski, the smaller the brain and other parts.

              Fining them won’t make the unlucky dolphins unafraid again. Let’s hope that they don’t associate the machines with human beings and are not terrified of coming near people. It would be tragic if this animal cruelty led to the poor things being traumatised.

  3. PartisanZ

     /  16th January 2019

    Great news … ‘Vodafone NZ staff brace for hundreds of layoffs’ – NZHeraldo … c/w photo of smiling assassin, new CEO Jason Paris

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12191128

    “We haven’t got our digital channels where we want them to be… so we’ll be doing a lot of work on automation and digitalisation.”

    Paris said you’ll start to see the company rearrange from trying to win new customers to doing a “much better” job of looking after existing customers.

    Vodafone NZ’s profit dropped $7.7m down to $39m last year on revenue that edged up $5.1 million to $2 billion.”

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    • Corky

       /  16th January 2019

      So, what do you expect Vodafone to do? Keep unwanted staff on?

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      • PartisanZ

         /  17th January 2019

        The question ultimately is: If companies like vodafone could fully automate & computerize – to the point where they needed perhaps 100 staff instead of 2,700 – would it simply be a matter of shedding all those staff?

        Will their charges ever reduce?

        If not, based on the argument that capital expenditure on computers & machines won’t allow price reductions while maintaining “profitability”, maybe it would be better for ‘maintaining employment’ to be one of their goals?

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  4. Corky

     /  16th January 2019

    Don’t know what this is about. But some liberal drip crashes and burns with Trumpy Derangement Syndrome.

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  5. Kitty Catkin

     /  16th January 2019

    I wonder what reaction there would be if house renovations were done free for Pakehas only, as they are for Maori house owners.

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