May loses Brexit vote badly, now faces no confidence vote

As expected the Withdrawal Vote (Brexit plan) was defeated in the UK parliament, the only surprise being how badly the loss was:

  • Ayes 202
  • Noes 432

That’s the worst defeat by a Government in Britain in 95 years. In normal times that degree of humiliation would result in a rapid resignation by the Prime Minister, but these are not normal times. Theresa May is hanging on defiantly.

Soon after the loss Jeremy Corbyn and party leaders tabled a vote of no confidence:

This will be debated and probably voted Wednesday in the UK (Thursday NZ time). It is predicted that May may survive this, but her Government and the Brexit plan (or lack of) are both in tatters.

Telegraph:

Theresa May’s future rests in the balance after Jeremy Corbyn tabled a no-confidence motion on Tuesday night, just minutes after the Government suffered an unprecedented defeat over its Brexit deal.

With MPs voting by 432 to 202 to reject the draft withdrawal agreement, Mr Corbyn raised a point of order requesting that a vote be held on Wednesday,  after Prime Minister’s Questions.

Speaking in the Commons, Mr Corbyn highlighted that the defeat was the largest inflicted on any Government since the 1920s, adding that Mrs May had “lost the confidence of this House and this country.”

We may find out by morning, NZ time.

Morning update from BBC:

  • Government faces vote of no confidence after PM’s huge parliamentary defeat on Tuesday
  • The Commons rejected Mrs May’s EU withdrawal agreement by 432 votes to 202
  • MPs now debating Labour’s no confidence motion ahead of vote at 19:00 GMT
  • Government expected to survive, with DUP and Tory Brexiteers backing PM
  • Labour says further no-confidence votes could follow if this one fails
  • European leaders have reacted with dismay at the voting down of the deal

Guardian – Brexit: MPs debate no-confidence motion after May’s deal defeat

MPs should be given indicative votes on what happens next, says Brexit committee

Next move ‘has to come from London,’ says EU

It isn’t just the Conservatives who are divided.

John Woodcock, who was an elected as a Labour MP but who now sits as an independent after leaving the party because of his opposition to Jeremy Corbyn, has told the Commons that he will not be voting for the motion of no confidence in the government this evening. He said he thought Corbyn and John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, were not fit to hold high office.

Here is the full transcript of what Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator, told the European parliament this morning about the Commons Brexit vote. He said “the risk of a no deal has never been so high.”

21 Comments

    • Missy

       /  17th January 2019

      The EU may renegotiate, but they have been hostile to that, so that is unlikely. Extending Article 50 can only happen for a General Election or second Referendum, so that is unlikely. Changing the PM won’t happen unless Cabinet kick her out now, which is unlikely this close to 29 March, or if the Govt loses a No Confidence vote, which is also unlikely at the moment. There won’t be a second referendum under May, and it is a short sighted view as it would be more divisive, further a second referendum would be damaging to UK democracy and the public’s engagement in politics. Scrapping Brexit would be worse than a second referendum and would do incredible damage to democracy in the UK, and it would alienate millions of voters from engaging in politics in the country. The least damaging to UK society is in fact the no deal option, which isn’t actually no deal, it is no agreement with the EU, however a number of countries that have an FTA with the EU have said they will roll those agreements over to the UK whilst bilateral agreements are being negotiated, however Remainers and the media don’t want to acknowledge that as it doesn’t fit their narrative.

  1. thespectrum

     /  16th January 2019

    Life won’t change in the UK whatever happens.
    75% of Brits will still live in their tiny Coronation Street houses
    with the other 55 mill in their overcrowded ,dirty tired country.
    And it will still be raining,

  2. Missy

     /  17th January 2019

    I was held up at work, so was listening to the result of the vote on the way home.

    Ayes 306
    Noes 325

    The Government have survived the vote of No Confidence.

    • thespectrum

       /  17th January 2019

      How unsurprising and dull like all of England.

      • Missy

         /  17th January 2019

        Well, based on your comments you are no doubt an expert on what is unsurprising and dull.

        • thespectrum

           /  17th January 2019

          No my comments are entertaining and challenging always.

          • Missy

             /  17th January 2019

            No, I think you are mixing them up with Gezza’s comments, in addition to unsurprising and dull yours are also devoid of any substance.

            • thespectrum

               /  17th January 2019

              I will not stoop to your level of personal abuse because I am secure in the knowledge that I am a brilliant observer analyst and writer of social and political issues.

            • Gezza

               /  17th January 2019

              😍😍😍

            • MaureenW

               /  17th January 2019

              As Maggie Thatcher said “if you have to tell people you are, you aren’t!”

            • Gezza

               /  17th January 2019

              😳

              True in Specs’ case, but hang on Maureen.
              Sir Alan says he’s a bastard.
              And he is ! >:D

          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  17th January 2019

            Not quite true. You said I was and I thanked you for the compliment.

            • Gezza

               /  17th January 2019

              Close enuf for me, quibbler. 😉

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  17th January 2019

              If I recall right you said I was a bastard’s bastard and I was too polite to point out where that puts you.

    • Blazer

       /  17th January 2019

      Theresa May,Theresa might… be….functus officio!

  3. Alan Wilkinson

     /  17th January 2019

    May continuing her impersonation of Monty Python’s Black Knight. Surely she is down to her last limb?

  4. Alan Wilkinson

     /  17th January 2019

    If May was ever going to deliver Brexit why on earth was Hammond her finance Minister?