Open Forum – Friday

25 January 2019

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  1. David

     /  25th January 2019

    Soper and Tova are definitely on Team JLR. Now whatever happened to avoiding politicians and journalists private lives, why is this different ? Its because the media want to take out Bridges and claim a scalp, of course. For Soper it will be Peters demand to get the Kiwibuild failure off the front page and please time it so it doesnt interfere with Ardern and after my visit to Ratana. What a disgrace to his profession.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12195642

    Its a great text message and I call bullshit that it tipped him over the edge 2 months later, she sums him up pretty well though with that Southland bluntness and I would say it will be good for her political career.

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    • Gezza

       /  25th January 2019

      In a recent survey conducted here by moi, only Sir Alan said he would be willing to buy a used car off Tova.

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  25th January 2019

    Things will be interesting in National MP Sarah Dowies household today.The husband and 2. children could be a bit disappointed with Sarah’s behavior.

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    • They have already separated, this was common knowledge for months, it’s just that the media hadn’t gone public with it until now for some reason.

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    • Gezza

       /  25th January 2019

      Not your fault for not knowing, Lurchy. Agility eventing around the place winning medals n stuff can take you out of the gossip loop I expect.

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      • Mother

         /  25th January 2019

        Media should not be airing interviews like that. It won’t help the suicide rate. Mr Ross is not in the right position to be publicly declaring he will help community with mental health issues.

        There is too much public talk about mental health.

        If Mr Ross is genuine, the doubts expressed by the naysayers could be devastating to his family.

        As usual, we’re talking about the wrong things. I call it ‘yapping’.

        We need to curb our media. Perhaps individuals on social media could try setting a good example.

        Gossip goes down like tasty morsels.

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        • Blazer

           /  25th January 2019

          Sarah is very cross with Jamie…Mother….do you think a stiff talking to would work!

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      • lurcher1948

         /  25th January 2019

        If ownly

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  25th January 2019

          It’s a crude and undignified text that says far more about her than the recipient.

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  3. Corky

     /  25th January 2019

    We seem to have air traffic controller issues in New Zealand..claims of being short staffed and controllers arriving late for work.

    Why not? This is Aotearoa. Who needs standards…right? Stuff a plane load of passengers- they can wait.

    Pilot: ‘Auckland control, this is Emirates flight 7291, flying on flight plan 622. We are approaching the outer marker, please advise.

    Control: ‘Kia Ora flight 7291. This is an automated response. We are currently experiencing difficulties. Please use visual confirmation before landing. Good luck.’

    Marvellous. 😄

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12179415

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    • Gezza

       /  25th January 2019

      Are you totally losing the plot or have you just forgotten to have breakfast, Corks?

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      • Corky

         /  25th January 2019

        What’s your problem? Is this any different from other rampant exaggeration on this blog? The difference here is people could die in a worst case scenario.

        Have you lost the plot? Just asking😒

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        • Gezza

           /  25th January 2019

          I don’t have a problem. I just have fun with you.

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          • Corky

             /  25th January 2019

            I know..

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            • Gezza

               /  25th January 2019

              I thought this pretty slack behaviour tho:

              “Staffing levels of air traffic controllers are a “significant safety concern” and represents an increased risk to the traveling public, a union says.

              It comes after Police Minister Stuart Nash blasted one controller as a ”clown” for turning up late to work and delaying his flight.

              “Air NZ Plane late leaving Napier by 20 minutes yet again; but for the 2nd Monday in a row it’s because air traffic controller turned up late for work,” he tweeted in September.

              “Yet again a plane full of punters delayed because some clown slept in! Unbelievable & unacceptable.”

              Airways, which runs the air traffic system, said the delay was in fact caused by an air controller’s car breaking down.

              Pretty obvious who the bloody clown is now, Stuart – eh?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  25th January 2019

              I think that we should poach the US ones once they’ve had their back pay. If they ever do…

            • Corky

               /  25th January 2019

              Talking of fun. One reason why you shouldn’t have a Mexican mother !! Damn, an ace sniper could respect this.

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12195748

  4. PartisanZ

     /  25th January 2019

    Keep well away from this news Righties –

    ‘Tobacco ties undermine Taxpayers’ Union’ – Newsroom

    News that the Taxpayers’ Union receives money from a tobacco multinational is not entirely shocking. But while it can take donations from whomever it pleases, its failure to declare its conflicts fatally undermines its credibility, Sam Sachdeva writes.

    “Here at the Taxpayers’ Union, we are no defenders of ‘Big Tobacco’ or its lobbyists.”

    Jordan Williams’ words, in the foreword to a 2016 report on the impact of tobacco taxes, have a certain irony in light of his organisation’s financial ties to British American Tobacco.

    https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2019/01/24/413371/tobacco-ties-undermine-taxpayers-union?preview=1

    To the tune of ‘There is no depression in New Zealand’ –

    “There’s no Charitocracy in New Zealand”

    Still, the words “Jordan” and “Williams” should have been a complete giveaway RIGHT from the start … shouldn’t they?

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    • Blazer

       /  25th January 2019

      the veil worn by the ‘Taxpayers Union’ is very thin….and almost high farce.

      Selective outrage and a stalking horse role for political leverage.

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      • Duker

         /  25th January 2019

        The TU is to the national party like Greenpeace is to the greens
        It’s a direct action wing..even going so far as to take out Colin Craig for national. Can’t have that 4% going to waste

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  5. Blazer

     /  25th January 2019

    the success…express…

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12195266

    ‘Now he says he’s worth “zero” — but he still lives in a “nice home” in Coffs Harbour worth more than $11 million “which is basically owned by secured credit”.

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  6. sorethumb

     /  25th January 2019

    How intensive parenting causes inequality

    In a traditional, conservatively-minded society, social norms and standards of individual behaviour are reinforced by the whole of that society – by shared institutions and through the collective parenting functions of the community (“it takes a village to raise a child”). The harsh realities of life also have a disciplining effect (“if a man shall not work, he shall not eat”).
    In a modern, liberal-minded society, there is more leeway – material abundance is sufficient to pay for the consequences of irresponsibility and ill-fortune alike (indeed, distinguishing between them has come to be seen as illiberal). Villages no longer raise children – and as for telling off a child that isn’t yours, don’t even think about it. In regard to the shared institutions of the community – those are either much weaker than they used to be, like the churches, or they’ve become professionalised, like the schools – their in loco parentis functions a matter of policies and legalities, not the organic, instinctual transmission of values.

    Community, defined not as an abstract political concept, but an everyday lived reality, has retreated from the formation of character in children. That task is left primarily to parents. Those with the time, energy, support and resources to make up for the retreat of community (not to mention the outright negative impact of popular culture) have done so. Others, while seeing the need, have struggled.
    https://unherd.com/2019/01/how-intensive-parenting-causes-inequality/

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    • Gezza

       /  25th January 2019

      You should maybe have considered sending that and a bit of your own commentary to PG as a possible guest post. That’s an interesting and topical issue.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  25th January 2019

      Yeah, yeah … It takes a village … as long as its not a Maori or indigenous peoples’ village …

      Some kind of quaint English or Pilgrim place no doubt … like Salem?

      Your comment could equally be entitled: How inequality causes intensive parenting.

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    • Corky

       /  25th January 2019

      Where’s your pride in being humanoid, Lurchy?

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      • lurcher1948

         /  25th January 2019

        You seem very proud to be human Corky as long as its your version of a human being and you are as fat,ancient and orange as the trump is, but hes a dead end evolutionary path

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  25th January 2019

        I am sure that Lurch is not a robot-humanoid.

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        • Corky

           /  25th January 2019

          Glad you picked up on the word ”humanoid.’ Given humanoids in their present state of evolution have a ”limited sphere of activity,” you should be able to draw your own conclusions.

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  7. Gezza

     /  25th January 2019

    Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern says the New Zealand government is not discriminating against Huawei, despite a decision to block Spark from using equipment produced by the Chinese manufacturer for its upcoming 5G network. Concerns had been raised by some intelligence agencies that Huawei was too closely connected to the Chinese government.

    “This is not about a particular vendor,” Ardern said, in an interview at the World Economic Forum at Davos in Switzerland. “This is about a framework in New Zealand that I think serves us well.”
    More…
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/110155860/jacinda-ardern-says-new-zealand-is-not-discriminating-against-huawei

    Yeah. Right ! 😀

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  8. lurcher1948

     /  25th January 2019

    If it was the Tempory leader of the opposition,Simon Bridges the audience would be shouting out, SPEAK UP and stop mumbling and SPEAK CLEARLY..

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  9. lurcher1948

     /  25th January 2019

    David Seymour interviewing Trump….in my mind

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  10. Duker

     /  25th January 2019

    The US Senate just voted on the Dems plan and the White house plan

    Unsurprisingly The Whitehouse plan relieved even less votes….and the Republicans are in the majority

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