A rich man’s benefit entitlement

Who decided to call talkback radio ‘Magic Talk’? Seems a very strange attempt at branding, but that’s another story.

Whether it was a deliberate attempt to attract attention, or just an unplanned flare up, duel hoists Sean Plunket and Peter Williams dueled over benefit entitlement on air.

Stuff – Magic Talk clash: Sean Plunket attacks ‘greedy boomer’ colleague Peter Williams

Plunket ignited a feud with Williams, who he called a “greedy boomer”. But Williams, a former TV host, hit back saying his generation deserved the benefit because they worked and “saved hard”. He said they also never indulged in coffee culture, or “smashed avocado”.

Good grief.

“You are a greedy boomer. You are just a greedy boomer,” Plunket repeatedly said during the heated on air debate between the two hosts.

His remark came after Williams, who is 64, said he would sign up to receive superannuation when he turns 65.

Plunket: “You are, without batting an eyelid, going to suck on the public tit for the rest of your life when you’ve got enough money to live quite comfortably”.

Williams: “I don’t care. Yes, that’s true, so what?”

Plunket: “You should not be taking money from other taxpayers. Let’s be honest Peter, you don’t need this”.

Williams: “I probably don’t need it. For Godsake, do you expect me not to sign up? It’s free money! Mate, I’m not John Key. I am entitled to this.”

Everyone is eligible to receive National Superannuation when they turn 65 in New Zealand, but it isn’t automatic, you have to apply for it. So it’s a choice.

An interesting definition from the Oxford dictionary:

entitled

Adjective

Believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.

‘kids who feel so entitled and think the world will revolve around them’
‘his pompous, entitled attitude’

I never listen to talkback radio but I thought that Williams was an odd appointment. He wasn’t exactly riveting as a news reader. There must be younger people who can talk on radio, but perhaps the primary tallback demographic is entitled old men.

And Plunket is hardly a spring chicken, although he has ten years to go before he needs to consider his entitlement to super handouts – unless the age of eligibility has been raised by then.

So what is Magic Radio? “We Bring You Back The Magic With Your Favourite Music.”  And talkback hosts?

Some interesting information from Magic Radio FAQs:

Why does MediaWorks need my personal info?

We need your information so we can better communicate with you and ultimately provide you with more content we know you’ll like. It’s also to help improve our advertising service.

Advertising is a feature of the Magic as it enables us to make the shows available to you for free. Knowing who you are means we will be able to show you advertising that is more relevant to you.

When you log in using Facebook, we only gather your basic profile information (name, email address, gender, year of birth and profile picture) to create a MediaWorks ID for you.

What do they want your profile picture for?

Is my information safe and protected?

Yes, we keep your information safe and protect it from any unauthorised access. We use a specialist outside service who use best practice encryption and other security practices to hold and keep your data secure.

Only a small group of people at MediaWorks will have access to your personal data.

Does that small group of people include Plunket or Williams, who know what your age is? Do callers feel safe and protected from the hosts?

Having to dish out personal details is more reason for me not to go there.

 

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46 Comments

  1. Strong For Life

     /  2nd February 2019

    Magic is a radio station that features music from the 50s, 60s and 70s. It is the station I listen to when I am in my car. I like the station because of the music and the fact that there is little prattle from the DJs.

    For some unknown reason Magic decided to branch out into talkback. I am not sure why. I have no interest in it and would not listen to Magic Talk. I don’t know anything about the website, never been there.

    As for “entitled old men” aren’t they allowed to listen to the radio? Winston Peters, an entitled old man, sets a good example when it comes to entitlement. Our deputy prime minister claims everything he can get so I don’t begrudge anyone following his example.

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    • Duker

       /  2nd February 2019

      Arent Magic and ‘Magic talk’ different stations ( when the talk is on) on different frequencies?
      In some places Magic Talk is an AM only station, while Magic Music is all FM
      it says so on the bumpf
      They call it having 2 channels, which you can choose
      https://www.mediaworks.co.nz/home/our-brands.html

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      • Strong For Life

         /  2nd February 2019

        They are different frequencies obviously but sister stations. Magic (music) is also AM.

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  2. Blazer

     /  2nd February 2019

    ‘a deliberate attempt to attract attention,’-right first time.

    Nationals huge bribe needs attention.

    Key didn’t have the guts to address it.
    As usual it will be left to Labour to deal with.

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    • Key and Bill English swept Super under a carpet.

      But Labour have shown no serious inclination to deal with it either since getting hammered on not so super proposals two or three campaigns ago.

      And there is no way NZ First will let Labour touch Super entitlements.

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      • Blazer

         /  2nd February 2019

        not so sure NZF wouldn’t go along with a graduated eligibility.
        They know the age group that votes for them.So long as that group is unaffected ,its a possibility imo.

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        • Not this term. From the Labour NZ First Coalition Agreement:

          Superannuitants
          • Introduce a new generation SuperGold smartcard containing entitlements and
          concessions.
          • National Superannuation eligibility to remain at 65.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  2nd February 2019

          As I recall, NZFirst actually talked about Flexi-Super some years ago now, prior to an election, but never made it policy, despite the idea making damn fine sense …

          Any modern, First World, technologizing* or technovancing* society should be thinking about lowering the age of retirement, not increasing it, along with a shorter working week and more holidays …

          #’s 208 & 209

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    • High Flying Duck

       /  2nd February 2019

      Jacinda has already said Super won’t change as long as she is PM…sounds familiar?

      So how are they “dealing with”?

      “Labour leader Jacinda Ardern is standing by her pledge that she would resign rather than raise the NZ Super age.

      During the second leaders debate on Monday night, Ardern was asked whether she would raise the eligibility age for NZ Superannuation.

      She said she wouldn’t, and when pushed, said she would resign before raising the age from 65.”

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96496437/jacinda-ardern-pledges-to-quit-rather-than-raise-nz-super-age

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  3. NOEL

     /  2nd February 2019

    Probably in the same vein as the the question “how many
    National party member picked up the Winter Heating thingy after bitching about how they would be better off on Nationals tax plan?

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  4. David

     /  2nd February 2019

    Peter Williams is a really strange choice, he is not exactly an engaging person and comes across as someone who is quite cold and dismissive and not much joy and enthusiasm for life.
    You need an inquisitive mind to do talkback or you need Plunkett or Laws type devil may care personality.

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  5. Duker

     /  2nd February 2019

    Doesnt having the Super mean Williams is pushed into a ‘higher tax bracket’ and so pays more tax for the privilege. yes hes better off , but so is the Treasury

    Plunket will definitely be taking the super as well as any extra money from working when the time comes

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  6. duperez

     /  2nd February 2019

    A millenia old fact is the old people were those with the wisdom, the sages we sought to give contexts and reflections and experience to take us forward.

    Peter Williams apparently has got to the stage where he’s ready on radio and writing columns for NZME to share his wisdom. Going by a couple of his columns he might have arrived at the station but he’s left the important insight and intellect luggage at home. Baggage counts for clicks unfortunately though.

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  7. duperez

     /  2nd February 2019

    And anyway Magic Music FM has been in Whangarei for years, locals doing their own thing.
    Robyn Lilley set up his own radio station. More magic for being sans Plunket and Williams.

    I suppose if it were a big corporation MediaWorks would have been challenged about ‘stealing’ the name for their use. When you’re big you can stomp all over genuine people doing it for love I suppose. .

    http://www.magicmusicfm.co.nz/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/robyn-lilley-a159711a

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  8. Gezza

     /  2nd February 2019

    From the clip that I listened to I thought the whole thing sounded “manufactured”.

    Reply
    • duperez

       /  2nd February 2019

      You get that when you try to create controversy and attention as a marketing strategy.

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      • Gezza

         /  2nd February 2019

        The idea of anybody having any kind of stoush – physical or verbal – with Peter Williams – is absurd. 😐

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  9. Corky

     /  2nd February 2019

    ”I never listen to talkback radio.”

    What!!! Must be a misprint. I think the word ”never” was inadvertently used.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  2nd February 2019

      I don’t know anyone who listens to talkback radio.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  2nd February 2019

      “I never” is different from “I’ve never”? I’d have to go back decades to find a time I listened to it and it wouldn’t have been much then.

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      • Corky

         /  2nd February 2019

        Interesting interpretation, Alan.

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        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  2nd February 2019

          I never do is not the same as I never did. One is current and the other is history.

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  2nd February 2019

            If someone has never listened to talkback, they never do. But if they never do, they could have done so in the past, which is why they never do now. 😀

            I must have heard it at some time, but can think of few things that I would rather less listen to than redneck, er, talkback radio,

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            • Corky

               /  2nd February 2019

              ”If someone has never listened to talkback, they never do. But if they never do, they could have done so in the past, which is why they never do now. 😀”

              Absolute genius, Kitty. Except it calls for supposition. Are you Pete?

              ”I never listen to talkback radio.”

              I listen to talkback radio. That’s more like it…without ‘never!’😂

            • Patu

               /  2nd February 2019


              😉

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  2nd February 2019

              I prefer to take Pete’s word for it rather than call him a liar, something I only do when I know that somebody is one.

              I was speaking in general terms, as should have been obvious, responding to Alan, not you.

              The only supposition is yours, assuming that when someone says that they never do something, it means that they do.

              I imagine that he has better things to do than listen to old rednecks babbling on. I can’t imagine why anyone would be so desperate for something to do..

              Patu, that photo is a relation talking to her tomfriend.

            • Patu

               /  2nd February 2019

              Of course it is Kitty. Hence the pink phone 😉

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  3rd February 2019

              She doesn’t want her parents to know; he’s an alleycat and a bit of a bad boy.

            • Corky

               /  2nd February 2019

              What convoluted nonsense. I have harvested… and now move on.

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  3rd February 2019

              Chance would be a fine thing.

  10. Kitty Catkin

     /  2nd February 2019

    It would surprise me if any university-educated person listened to talkback, and the chances of anyone with even one degree seeing it as a source of information are zero.
    Talkback radio for anyone who’s well-informed about anything ? Give me strength.

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      • Corky

         /  2nd February 2019

        BACKTALK RADIO IS FOR PORNWORD RETARDS.

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        • Patu

           /  2nd February 2019

          No need to shout Corky. Was that a slur on my good character?

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  2nd February 2019

            It might be if it made any sense, which it doesn’t. I think it was meant to be. I was accused of being ill-informed, despite my academic qualifications, because (wait for it) I don’t listen to talkback. ???

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            • Patu

               /  2nd February 2019

              Talkback can be quite entertaining Kitty. I used to quite enjoy it back when I drove a truck for a living. Most music radio stations play the same 100 or so songs on random loop, but with talkback it’s a new idiot every 5 minutes. 😉

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  3rd February 2019

              😀

            • Corky

               /  2nd February 2019

              Despite my academic qualifications, because (wait for it) I don’t listen to talkback. ???

              Well, now put that intellect to work trying to work out the above puzzle. I have given you a second chance after you failed with your previous attempt. 👍

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  3rd February 2019

              Your first ‘sentence’ is nonsensical. No wonder you even had to put ??? after it yourself.

              Is that the above puzzle ? It can’t be worked out, the words make no sense. ‘Despite my academic qualifications () because I don’t listen to talkback.’

              ‘Despite my academic qualifications because (wait for it) I don’t listen to talkback’

              Gibberish !

          • Corky

             /  2nd February 2019

            Yell? Don’t be silly. You have been stabled for too long. I know things are bad when you are activated.

            No, I just wanted to gain parity with you image.

            ”Was that a slur on my good character?”

            Of course not..just confirmation of yours.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  3rd February 2019

          I did not say that; it’s particularly stupid to distort someone’s words when the original words are there. What you have written is gibberish.

          Your soi-disant puzzle is simply a rearrangement of words in a witless attempt to sound clever. It fails dismally..

          Try this one.THIS is a puzzle.

          A man who loved the theatre wanted to go to a play, but the tickets cost 1/6 and he only had 1/-.

          He took the shilling to a pawnbroker who made sure it was real and lent him 9d on it.

          As he walked along, he met a friend who gave him 9d for the pawn ticket. The man now had 1/6 and was able to go to the theatre.

          The question is; who lost on the deal, and how much ?

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  11. Patzcuaro

     /  3rd February 2019

    Reply

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