Alt-right slight might

The ‘alt right’ organised protests in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch yesterday – see ‘NZ Sovereignty’ rallies against immigration.

Someone tweeted about someone at one of the protests having a swastika tattoo on his head…

Sad and a little shocked to see neo-Nazis out and proud. In Wellington, New Zealand. In 2019.

…but otherwise things seemed quiet and low key.

Another view of ‘good turnout’ from Greg Presland:

The rally was underwhelming.  There were maybe 30 yellow jackets there with perhaps another 30 supporters.

Whale Oil had been promoting the protests, including yesterday – Rallies against the UN Migration Pact TODAY 4PM.

They report A tale of two very different rallies: Christchurch & Wellington

Our Whaleoil citizen journalist reports that around 100 people turned out for the Christchurch rally against the UN Global compact on migration. There were no hecklers and no drama. There were no representatives from the National party at all but the New Conservative party fronted and “put on a good performance.”

Our reporter chatted with David Moffett afterwards and was impressed with both him and his speech.

Moffett has been generally quite unimpressive on Twitter. May he has learned from his mistakes.

The Wellington rally was quite different. Owen Llewellyn from the blog RightMinds writes that Leftist bullies disrespected the National anthem and tried to intimidate the female speaker.

SB makes this claim:

If you watch the video you will see the same tired techniques being used to try to smear and silence the message. A man with a swastika tattooed on his head was targeted as being supposedly representative of the rally. I would not be surprised at all if he was a plant by leftists as that is a common tactic to enable them to smear those who are pro-free speech as Nazis.

If they were a plant were they a Greenie? A silly joke i know, but that’s what a conspiracy theory like this deserves. It is a common tactic of leftists and rightists to make ridiculous assertions about the other extremity.

Also from Whale Oil: Humour at the Auckland rally: ‘ Want to smoke some weed?’

Was that the highlight? Whale Oil keeps promoting Elliot Ikilei from the New Conservatives. They are toxic to everyone else.

Presland (mickysavage) has a report of the Auckland rally at The Standard – Auckland’s yellow jacket protest, and concludes:

To repeat one question which I heard asked a number of times yesterday, where has multiculturalism ever worked?

We were in Aotea Square.  There were young Chinese and Indian, Pacifica, a mother and daughter wearing a hijab, all peacefully coexisting.  Across the road there is this wonderful Turkish kebab shop.  There are no less than two Sushi shops within 100 metres of where we were. Queen Street is littered with businesses owned and run by different nationalities showing the really good side of globalisation.

Within the city there are plans to celebrate Waitangi day, Chinese New Year and the Festival of colours all within the next month or so. People from a variety of different backgrounds and experiences all happily living together.

I am cautiously confident that New Zealand is showing that multiculturalism is working fine and that the Yellow Jackets will not gain traction. Time will tell if I am right.

It looks like the rallies had as much impact as the TPPA protests after Labour and Greens got in to Government.

At this stage the alt-right seems to have very slight might.

 

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  1. Kitty Catkin

     /  3rd February 2019

    I see all sorts of people and hear all sorts of accents and languages in Hamilton, which makes me feel very cosmopolitan. People don’t look twice at veiled ladies or Indians in sarees (well, the sarees get admiring looks and sometimes admiring comments) There are who knows how many races here.

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  2. lurcher1948

     /  3rd February 2019

    So all in all a rightwing flop

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  3. sorethumb

     /  3rd February 2019

    The fact that few people turned up isn’t surprising. People need more depth than just to protest the UN migration pact. The facts are [EG] that according to the Asia NZ Foundation only 4/10 think immigration from Asia will have a positive impact.

    I’m with Eric Kaufman
    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/01/eric-kaufmanns-whiteshift.html

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  4. sorethumb

     /  3rd February 2019

    Treasury made waves in 2016 when it noted that high immigration could push New Zealanders out of low-skilled jobs, depress wages and increase housing pressures. That view is now widely accepted and is a major reason why National – which oversaw a huge increase in the population – is no longer in government.
    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/comment-immigration-winston-peters-has-the-tiger-by-the-tail/ar-BBS5A3h?

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  5. Corky

     /  3rd February 2019

    ”There were no representatives from the National party at all but the New Conservative party fronted and “put on a good performance.”

    National Party..since when have they cared about our borders and allowing the RIGHT people into our country? They are worse than Labour. National should be opposing this crap.
    At least Labour is philosophical consistent..even though I’m guessing they don’t want to be.

    ”To repeat one question which I heard asked a number of times yesterday, where has multiculturalism ever worked?
    We were in Aotea Square. There were young Chinese and Indian, Pacifica, a mother and daughter wearing a hijab, all peacefully coexisting. ”

    Can someone please explain to this halfwit that it’s a numbers game.

    Here’s Tommy getting his lumps in a Muslim dominated area. That fool in Aotea Square needs a one week stint in this area for ”real word experience”

    Tommy gets his lumps at 1.45

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    • PartisanZ

       /  3rd February 2019

      You should maybe go there to live Corky? Seems more your cup-a-tea …

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      • Corky

         /  3rd February 2019

        Crikey..you wouldn’t last 5 minutes on that street, Parti. Waste of time saying you are from Aotearoa, New Zealand. As far as they are concerned ( not all), you are a heathen Infidel who needs the ”bash.”

        The take home from that clip isn’t the Muslim or Tommy or the slow takeover of certain areas by immigrants…..it’s the inability of many Muslims to debate something rationally..or irrationally if you will, without resorting to violence when their limited worldview is challenged.

        As Tommy said ”what do you think he’s teaching his kids?

        We have people like that already in New Zealand…you do know that, don’t you?

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    • Corky

       /  3rd February 2019

      Tommy still has the bulldog spirit.. the others ?

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  6. duperez

     /  3rd February 2019

    “Moffett has been generally quite unimpressive on Twitter. Maybe he has learned from his mistakes”?

    You can learn from your mistakes but you can’t change who you are.

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  7. Corky

     /  3rd February 2019

    Part of Stephen Berry’s (ACT) speech.

    ”This issue isn’t really a debate about immigration. Act continues to welcome migrants who are financially independent, who will invest in New Zealand and share New Zealand’s values of free speech, free choice and equality. Unemployment is down to just 3.9% and multiple industries such as horticulture, construction, education, hospitality and farming are feeling the squeeze of labour shortages. Reducing the number of migrants coming to New Zealand will suffocate the economic potential of New Zealand businesses. Whatever your view on migration however, its is for New Zealand to make that decision; we have nothing to gain by opening our borders and our publicly funded services to the UN.”

    In..a..nutshell…for.. idiots..to..understand!

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    • phantom snowflake

       /  3rd February 2019

      As the UN Migration Compact is not legally binding, it’s disingenuous of Stephen Berry to imply that it would lead to open borders and UN control of immigration to New Zealand.

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      • Gezza

         /  3rd February 2019

        I think the concern (and it’s not one to dismiss out of hand) is that once a country signs up to a UN agreement like this, when it then does something that others don’t like they can make an issue out of it at the UN that you have breached it etc etc. Do we really need to bother with it?

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      • Corky

         /  3rd February 2019

        Not in my opinion. Yes, not legally binding at the moment.Give it a few years though. Why was Andrew Little at the UN recently selling New Zealand out? Why are NZ diver licenses now default ID cards after we were promised they would never serve that purpose.? Why can’t we call people Gypsies? Eskimos etc?

        It starts with one foot in the door…then things progress in small increments.

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        • phantom snowflake

           /  3rd February 2019

          Hell, Uncle, you’ve mentioned a whole bunch of different conspiracies there; are you proposing tying them all up into some kind of *Unified Conspiracy Theory*??

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          • Corky

             /  3rd February 2019

            I’ve mentioned none..Suzie. I guess when the ideas run out the trolling starts.
            Familiar story unfortunately with some posters on this blog.

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            • Duker

               /  3rd February 2019

              who said drivers licenses would never become default id cards?

            • Duker

               /  3rd February 2019

              is that something you got off the internet again,

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  3rd February 2019

              Just one of a series of false promises from the former incarnations of NZTA – the first being that the licence would be for life and the second that it would not be used as a citizens id card. Lots of others – eg speed cameras would never be hidden and only used in high crash areas, etc.

              Basically they are a pack of incompetents who will say anything that suits their current mission.

            • Corky

               /  3rd February 2019

              No, Duke..It was Jenny Shipley. She waived it around and said it was only ever going to be a license.

              Next time you pull out your license as ID..probably sometime this month.might pay to remember our conversation. Then think of the UN.. but not the Internet.

        • PartisanZ

           /  3rd February 2019

          Little didn’t “sell New Zealand out” … He acknowledged New Zealand’s historic and contemporary transgressions of Human Rights and the Rights of Indigenous People …

          I’m proud to belong to a nation that shows such *Respect* … More countries should do the same …

          We can’t call people Gypsies and Eskimos until we know what they call themselves maybe?

          European Judeo-Christian White Supremacy is losing its place in the World Order Corky … That’s what you really fear I reckon … and processes like ‘decolonization’ – which is by no means over – can only mean a New World Order …

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          • PartisanZ

             /  3rd February 2019

            The really terrifying thing is the New World Order intersecting with The Long March Through Institutions …

            We’re properly *screwed* when that happens …

            Except … We’ve already been properly *screwed* … or should I say *Rogered*.

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        • Duker

           /  3rd February 2019

          ‘Articles 10 and 14 of the UN Charter refer to General Assembly resolutions as “recommendations”;
          there fixed it for you

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  8. sorethumb

     /  3rd February 2019

    Pete George can you define Alt-right and if so how do you know this was an alt-right event?

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  9. Stephen Berry

     /  3rd February 2019

    The transcript of my speech and video details just how the UN goes about implementing non-binding agreements.

    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2019/02/transcript-stephen-berrys-full-speech-at-auckland-rally/#more-442826

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    • PartisanZ

       /  3rd February 2019

      Speaks volumes … it being published on Whaleoil …

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      • Corky

         /  3rd February 2019

        Yes, it does. Where was the rest of New Zealand in support, or in spirit? Probably pissed around the bar-bee!

        Full marks to Pete and Whale Oil for giving this issue coverage.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  3rd February 2019

          Or in opposition? Or in bewilderment? Or disbelief?

          Or like … How big an issue is this, really?

          Where was NZFirst? Too smart to align themselves I reckon … after a few other precarious moments with the Alt-Right?

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    • phantom snowflake

       /  3rd February 2019

      Apparently we’re doomed because a previous government accepted some recommendations made by the UN on an unrelated matter; plus some posturing about how ACT are the Greatest, Bigliest proponents of “Freeze Peach” ever, and how said aforementioned Freeze Peach will in some mysterious unexplained way be inhibited by the UN Migration Compact… Bah, Humbug!

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      • Stephen Berry

         /  3rd February 2019

        You don’t need to do 1+1 to foresee the UN using those tactics to push through their goals on migration. Labour and National have both demonstrated they’ll fold over when the UN tells them what they need to do. 121/155 recommendations on that non-binding agreement were accepted.

        Wonder how many Labour will be accepting? Considering Little did half their job for them before the Q&A got started, I’m concerned.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  3rd February 2019

          Oh God yes … The UN has done so much damage and untold harm already with things like The Universal Declaration of Human Rights … or the Declaration of the Rights of Indigenous People …

          Where will their disastrous threat to ‘freedom’ end?

          And what exactly does such ‘freedom’ entail? Not respecting Human Rights? Not respecting Indigenous Peoples?

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          • PartisanZ

             /  3rd February 2019

            But don’t worry … It’s just like a marketplace … everything is … indeed, everything can be converted into a marketplace if it isn’t one already … and the ‘free market’ will take care of everything naturally … by Law of the Jungle being awarded the status of high moral principle!

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            • Gezza

               /  3rd February 2019

              There are quite a number of countries who in theory have signed or adopted the Universal Declaration of Human Rights who happily bloody ignore it either all the time or when it suits them.

            • Gezza

               /  3rd February 2019

              Mostly foreigners, I might add.

            • PartisanZ

               /  3rd February 2019

              Gezza its a logical and ethical fallacy that because someone else is doing it the activity therefore doesn’t matter …

            • Gezza

               /  3rd February 2019

              Yes I know. Thanks for telling me.

          • phantom snowflake

             /  3rd February 2019

            You’re so right. We are not operating some kind of ‘Human Rights Utopia’ here which is under threat from a malevolent UN! Without the input of the UN Ashley Peacock (Autism + Intellectual Disability) would still be languishing in a seclusion unit at Tawhirimatea Mental Health Unit in Porirua.

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          • John Hurley

             /  3rd February 2019

            Indigenous people only means their ancestors were here first. That is where there status begins and ends. We musn’t let “indigenous” become a taboo or something?

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    • Gezza

       /  3rd February 2019

      The transcript of my speech and video details just how the UN goes about implementing non-binding agreements.

      I’d quite like to have a gander at both. Have you also published these anywhere reputable, or just on whaleoil? 😐

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  10. Gezza

     /  3rd February 2019

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    • Gezza

       /  3rd February 2019

      Heightism vs swastikaism?

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    • Gezza

       /  3rd February 2019

      I give these guys marks for turning up and the woman being prepared to stand up to the bullies. I never heard her say anything in there that was objectionable. But I dunno who else was there and what they had to say. Interesting when she says the government signed the compact without any prior discussion with iwi – “that’s your land”.

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  12. John Hurley

     /  3rd February 2019

    The real issue is that [this many] people don’t want to become a minority in their own country. Why would they? They never wanted to and were never asked. I would defy Brown-nose to argue that they should?

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  13. John Hurley

     /  3rd February 2019

    Baizuo!
    I’m proud to belong to a nation that shows such *Respect* … More countries should do the same …

    We can’t call people Gypsies and Eskimos until we know what they call themselves maybe?

    European Judeo-Christian White Supremacy is losing its place in the World Order Corky … That’s what you really fear I reckon … and processes like ‘decolonization’ – which is by no means over – can only mean a New World Order …

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  14. John Hurley

     /  3rd February 2019

    Comments

    Joshua Grainger, 4 days ago

    You say that because of the influx of mainlanders and thus the dilution of the Hong Konger identity that many Hong Kongers are moving overseas. Surely that’s a little bit hypocritical: aren’t Hong Kongers moving, to say, Auckalnd, the same as mainlanders moving to Hong Kong? The concern about the shops of the old Hong Kong disappearing in favour of those that appeal to mainlanders seems to be reminiscent of Winston Peters old concern about corner stores disappearing and being replaced with Cantonese restaurants, TCM providers, and Asian supermarkets.

    Reply, Russel Brown

    Let me answer this: no. The Chinese government doesn’t run New Zealand let alone tear-gas Aucklanders in the street, the language (written and spoken) is in no danger of disappearing, retail still serves the needs of residents, the scale of migration and tourism is in no way comparable. It’s just not a comparison.
    https://publicaddress.net/speaker/foreign-forces-hope-and-hong-kongs-umbrella/

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  15. John Hurley

     /  3rd February 2019

    • Russell Brown, 3 years ago
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    If you’re going to “be honest”, look up some numbers. Canada has the highest per capita net immigration rate in the world and still manages to be quite admirable. Spain, which has absorbed more than three million immigrants since 2000, is flourishing. Immigration to Norway is at record levels.
    And really, even in New Zealand, where a dizzying 23% of the population was born elsewhere, I can’t see the social fabric tearing, let alone any “cultural genocide” going on.
    One of the things I liked most about the years I lived in London was the diversity of faces and voices (I don’t think that’s unconnected to Britain’s continued cultural vitality). It was actually a relief to return to New Zealand and find our cultural homgenity breaking up.
    http://publicaddress.net/speaker/what-diversity-dividend/
    Brickley Paiste

    Fantastic piece. Thanks so much.
    Vancouver’s experience is probably like Canada’s on the whole. Trudeau brought in multiculturalism by federal directive in the 70s (“Although there are two founding peoples there is no founding culture…” and that mirrored Laurier before him…) Then in 1982, multiculturalism was enshrined in the Charter. Then in the mid-80s a Conservative PM enacted the “Multiculturalism Act”.
    Now in Canada’s large cities it’s somewhat amusing to hear people speaking English. Fourth generation Canadians are seen as an amusing relic. Do you eat roasts? Do your parents wear sweaters to dinner and talk about classical music, ha ha ha?
    The reality is that in NZ, the hegemony of Anglo Saxon culture refuses to die. The Interfaith dialogue was a fantastic example of that. Also, we never had (much) immigration from Central, Eastern or Southern Europe. We still treat South Africans and Pomps as “one of us”.
    http://publicaddress.net/speaker/what-diversity-dividend/

    Raspberry……………..

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