Waitangi Day celebrations

That should be repeated through the year.

Going by Twitter there seems to be a media obsession with BBQs.  There must be more interesting stuff to report on.

Someone referred to BBQs as ‘WhiteHangi Day’.

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  2. Finbaar Rustle

     /  6th February 2019

    Statutory days are archaic and unnecessary and should be abolished.
    Just give workers 10 days holidays.

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  3. Gezza

     /  6th February 2019

    I just want to re-post this here from yesterday, because I think the official powhiri/welcomes and speeches and general proceedings involving the host and our political representatives at Waitangi yesterday are generally agree to have gone off very well. There has been a major re-set of the relationship and tikanga by moving the proceedings to the Upper Marae, leaving Te Tii, the Lower Marae, to be the place where impassioned speeches and argument are part of their tikanga.

    And I think full marks are due to Kelvin Davis and Waitangi leaders for the refreshing change in how proceedings will hopefully be conducted in future and I hope he is given considerable credit for this by both Pakeha and Maori.
    … … … …
    Gezza / February 5, 2019
    Seems me Kelvin Davis is worthy of praise for the overall decorum & good-naturedness of this year’s official proceedings:
    … … … … …
    For the first time, politicians and dignitaries will be given earpieces to hear the translated words of their hosts during the official welcome to Waitangi next week.

    The idea was that of Māori Crown Relations Minister Kelvin Davis, who has also introduced changes to the way the powhiri on February 5 is conducted. The powhiri was until recently held at Ti Tii Marae. It was moved over concerns the event had become a “circus” and moved to Te Whare Runanga on the upper marae at the Treaty Grounds.

    “We’re trying to build on the good atmosphere that was generated last year, and the idea is to return dignity and decorum to proceedings,” Davis told the Weekend Herald. “In previous years, whoever was the government would go on and be bolstered by officials and CEs and there’d be a big jostle for position, and the Opposition was just left to fend for themselves at a later powhiri.”

    All parties had agreed to go on as one group this year for one parliamentary powhiri.

    “We’ve organised the simultaneous translation earpieces for everybody. It’s about being inclusive and I think it’s the way New Zealand needs to head, where everybody understands what everyone’s saying so we don’t talk past each other,” said Davis. “It’s a small thing but I think it means a lot to those people who in the past felt excluded. We want to celebrate New Zealand’s day, and it all started here in Waitangi.”

    From The Herald

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  6th February 2019

      Good to see you agreeing with Don Brash.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  6th February 2019

      Good to see you agreeing with Don Brash.

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      • Alan Wilkinson

         /  6th February 2019

        Dunno how that happened either.

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        • Gezza

           /  6th February 2019

          I can see the issues Don talks about from Don’s perspective, and I can see the same issues from the Maori iwi perspectives, Alan.

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          • Alan Wilkinson

             /  6th February 2019

            I’m amused that when Don says it is rude and unproductive to speak Maori without translation to people who can’t understand it that is racist and out of touch but when Kelvin Davis provides translations that is not racist and is in touch.

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            • Gezza

               /  6th February 2019

              I’m amused by your amusement.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th February 2019

              Good. What else do you agree with him about?

            • Gezza

               /  6th February 2019

              Don?
              “I have no doubt that some of you see me as a racist of the worst kind. It is a great tribute to you that you are nevertheless willing to have me here today, at this place of great importance in our history, even though you may disagree with me on a whole raft of fundamental issues.”

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th February 2019

              That didn’t get far.

            • Gezza

               /  6th February 2019

              It was a good start.

            • Gezza

               /  6th February 2019

              And you did ask.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th February 2019

              Why start if you are not going anywhere?

            • Gezza

               /  6th February 2019

              Why ask a question if you don’t like the answer?

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th February 2019

              Ask Reuben Taipari.

            • Gezza

               /  6th February 2019

              No need to. The man has mana enough to speak for himself. And to tell his Mrs she wasn’t giving Don a fair go at the time.

              Waitangi Day organiser praises Don Brash for his speech despite being heckled by protesters
              organiser Reuben Taipari praised him for his return, “He [Don Brash] saw the hurt and the pain and the anger and I must congratulate him and admire him for making the attempt so thank you Don.”
              https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/waitangi-day-organiser-praises-don-brash-his-speech-despite-being-heckled-protesters?variant=tb_v_1

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  6th February 2019

              Strange that he doesn’t seem to hold the same feverish hostility to Brash’s comments that you do on his behalf.

            • Gezza

               /  7th February 2019

              I don’t have any feverish hostility towards Don Brash either. As I have explained to you I can see both viewpoints.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  7th February 2019

              Your language was so full of expletives if it wasn’t feverish it was rabid.

  4. adamsmith1922

     /  6th February 2019

    I am sorry, but the usual bunch of rubbish from the politicians – with predictable nonsense form the likes of Marama Davidson.

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    • Blazer

       /  6th February 2019

      well what is it exactly, that Marama said, that you regard as nonsense?

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      • High Flying Duck

         /  6th February 2019

        To be fair to Adamsmith1922, if Marama opened her mouth it is highly likely it was nonsense that came from it.

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        • Blazer

           /  6th February 2019

          she admitted she doesn’t mind making a cunt of..herself,but aside from that adam should be able to explain exactly what he has an issue with.

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  5. Alan Wilkinson

     /  6th February 2019

    Lying on the couch listening to the Navy’s 21 gun Eaitangi midday salute. At least this year they sent something that looks like a ship, HMNZS Wellington, instead of that god-awful Aussie abomination, HMNZS Canterbury.

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  6. Tipene

     /  6th February 2019

    Cleaned three cars, did a bit of home maintenance, and off to the beach soon for a family picnic.

    Could not give a toss about articles, “principles”, or “karakiaoki”.

    ANZAC Day earns my respect – Waitangi Day my contempt.

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    • Gezza

       /  6th February 2019

      Why? Winston Churchill persuaded our government to send our men & boys off on a poorly planned poorly executed misguided expedition to attack Turkish troops in Turkey, in appalling conditions, to fight a war for Britain against an enemy that wasn’t remotely a threat to us.

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  7. Tipene

     /  6th February 2019

    Because against overwhelming odds, and no hope of victory, our ANZAC soldiers demonstrated singular courage and loyalty, against a national day that “celebrates” a half-arsed 5 day drafting of a parchment that was only meant to be a temporary fix whilst a constitutional Govt was duly elected, and has now become an in-perpetuity “living document” affirming a plethora of modern-day lies about its original context and intention.

    “Partnership?” Monarchies don’t do “partnerships” with colonised nations.

    Australians fighting back to back with Kiwi’s at ANZAC Cove?

    Now THAT’S a partnership I can honour.

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  8. Tipene

     /  6th February 2019

    I have stood in ANZAC Cove, and looked up at the hills upon which the Turkish machine guns were mounted and firing down upon the troops. The depth of water at Gallipoli is ankle to knee deep until you get a fair way out – which means that there was a fair bit of ground to cover before you made it to a beach, which itself has (and had) no cover.

    And Maori want to have an ongoing moan about agreeing to a historical settlement?

    Thanks, but I’ll just watch the victim train chug on by.

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  9. On Waitangi Day coverage on the news just now, Brian Tamaki said he wouldn’t come down from his ‘high position’ to be a politician, adding that he wasn’t being arrogant.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  6th February 2019

      I will refrain from making the obvious answer.

      Titewhai Harawira was sychophantically fawning over the PM and pawing her in a rather sick-making way.What does she want in exchange ?

      I think that being too pally with people is a mistake for any PM. It gives them the idea that she’s their friend and will do what they want.

      What on earth were those things floating in hot fat/oil ???

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  6th February 2019

        The Tamaki, er, Destiny Party was going to ‘rule and reign’ over NZ by, I think, 2013, according to a prophecy from another self-appointed bishop who had it from God. I remember that they were going to be’ reigning and ruling over all the wealth and finance…the social order’….God was mentioned in an afterthought. Only 99.5% of the vote needed to be gained.

        They were naive enough to put it on their website for all to see.

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    • Bill Brown

       /  7th February 2019

      I enjoyed a full day at Waitangi – first time. However it was sad to see Brian Tamaki there using the day as a recruiting drive for his church. Sure, all the expensive Harley Davidson bikes he and his crew had looked flash all parked up, but it was obvious what he was up to. Luckily he was only at the lower Marae. But he was certainly trying to hijack the day.

      It was a very festival atmosphere with great food stalls, music performances, and people of all race and creeds.

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