“Jacinda Ardern should have been able to recite the Treaty”

I thought this media nonsense over Jacinda Ardern not jumping to a journalist demand about literal knowledge of the Treaty of Waitangi was over, but Heather du Plessis-Allan continues it with: Jacinda Ardern should have been able to recite the Treaty

That was embarrassing.

You’d be made of ice not to feel sorry for Jacinda Ardern. Put on the spot like that, asked to recite the articles of the Treaty.

Article One, what does it say? came the question.

“Oh. Article One? On the spot?”

You feel sorry for the PM because you know she’s not that unusual. How many of us can recite the three articles of the Treaty?

I’d guess that most journalists couldn’t recite the Treaty unprepared.

How can you deliver on the promise of the Treaty if you don’t know the promise of the Treaty?

Not being able to recite it has nothing to do with delivering on the Treaty.

David Farrar covered this well last Tuesday: PM fell for the quiz trick

The story here isn’t that the PM didn’t know what Article One says, and needed Willie to help her out.

The story is the media doing a “gotcha” story where they treat politics as a quiz night. You ask an MP a question with the hope they can’t answer it on the spot, and then have a story about how ignorant or out of touch they are.

The classic is how much is a loaf of bread. Others are what is the current inflation rate. Who is the best selling NZ musician etc etc.

MPs should refuse to play these games. If a journalist asks a question along these lines, the best responses are:

  • I’m a Member of Parliament, not a quiz show participant.
  • If you don’t know the answer, go Google it
  • This is silly gotcha politics and I’m not playing along

I think it is petty and irrelevant to what is important.

I wonder how many journalists can recite Article 1 of the  Press Council Principles:

1. Accuracy, Fairness and Balance

Publications should be bound at all times by accuracy, fairness and balance, and should not deliberately mislead or misinform readers by commission or omission. In articles of controversy or disagreement, a fair voice must be given to the opposition view. Exceptions may apply for long-running issues where every side of an issue or argument cannot reasonably be repeated on every occasion and in reportage of proceedings where balance is to be judged on a number of stories, rather than a single report.

Is it fair to demand precise answers to questions that are designed to try to catch politicians out?

I don’t think so. These are cheap shots by journalists, trying to create a story out of nothing of importance. And Allen is still milking it, five days after the non-story ‘broke’.

 

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81 Comments

  1. David

     /  February 10, 2019

    I generally hate these how much is a litre of milk questions, I rarely look at the price of anything because well if you need it you buy it why clog your head with nonsense, but given the song and dance she makes with all thing Maori her not knowing something that basic shows her up to be a total flake. She is an incredible communicator, has a winning smile is a practitioner par excellence of the dark arts of spin and politics but is a complete lightweight on pretty much all subjects.
    But we knew that with 9 years in opposition where she pretty much did nothing except look earnest or smiley depending on the circumstances.

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 10, 2019

      She needn’t memorise it word for word to know what it says,

      I haven’t memorised any of Dickens’ novels, but could give a fair precis of them.

      Not many people would want to hear it verbatim. but a “Section One says A, B, C, D'” would do.

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    • Finbaar Rustle

       /  February 10, 2019

      To be fair this Labour NZF coalirtion is doing well.
      Looking forward to another 11 years of this great Government.

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    • david in aus

       /  February 10, 2019

      When Presidential Candidate Rick Perry was asked which government agency he wanted to get rid of, he stumbled. That ended his campaign.

      The Labour party wants to entrench the TOW in everything but asking them what the three clauses are “gotchya or unreasonable”? The treaty is not 900 pages long but not much more than three long sentences.

      If we have such low standards of our politicians, what can we hope for?

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  2. Patu

     /  February 10, 2019

    I have to admit that I found it a little entertaining to see her reaction to the question. Rather than make her look foolish though, it may well have helped her appear to have more in common with your average Kiwi, who neither knows nor cares what is contained in any of the articles. What I thought was very disappointing, was her piss poor pronunciation of Te Reo.

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    • Gezza

       /  February 10, 2019

      As her pronunciation of English is pretty bad – she has learned an awfully lazy dialect that’s never been corrected & among other things includes routinely replacing Ts with Ds – you could hardly expect her to have pristine pronunciation of Te Reo too.

      But actually I thought detected some improvement in her Maori pronunciation this Waitangi Day tour period compared to last years. She said tay for te several times in vids I saw, for example; last year, her te’s were all teas.

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 10, 2019

        The average Kiwi isn’t PM.It made her look silly and hypocritical.

        It would be like the UK PM not knowing what the Magna Carta said.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  February 10, 2019

          How do we know they do?

          It’s a ‘stand up’ living symbol of where things are at right now in Aotearoa NZ …

          Not quite so far advanced as many of us thought …

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          • Kitty Catkin

             /  February 10, 2019

            It’s guesswork; it would be all but impossible to know who knows the Treaty in detail.

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            • Patu

               /  February 10, 2019

              Nobody knows, nor cares, about the specific details of the treaty/te tiriti, other than those who have a vested interest in the grievance industry. Most people who chose to call NZ their home, would far rather deal with the real problems that they face everyday, such as paying the rent/mortgage, feeding theirselves & their offspring, and paying the ever increasing burden of tax that they allegedly owe.

            • PDB

               /  February 10, 2019

              Personally I was much more disappointed she didn’t know the words to Th’ Dudes song ‘Bliss’ verbatim…

  3. Blazer

     /  February 10, 2019

    George Bush had a standard answer….’pass’!

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    • David

       /  February 10, 2019

      I would guess Bush would know the amendments to the constitution, when the treaty is our founding document you would think the person running the country would know it especially as there are only 3 of them.

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      • I would guess that Ardern knows and understands the Treaty articles well. Not being able to recite them word for word on the spot with a lot of things going on means little.

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        • David

           /  February 10, 2019

          Not sure I share your confidence PG, remembering 3 things when you spent 4 days there last year and the same this year probably indicates she wasnt really concentrating when listening to the speeches.

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          • Prime Ministers have to read and listen to a lot of stuff. Being able to recite things verbatim is not necessary to be able to do a good job.

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          • Patzcuaro

             /  February 10, 2019

            Even if Ardern could recite the Treaty you would find some other nit to pick.

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      • Patzcuaro

         /  February 10, 2019

        The fact that Bush maybe be able to recite the Ammendments to the Constitution and Ardern not be able to recite the Treaty Articles is more a reflection on ourselves and the lack of value it has to the average New Zealanders life. I have more knowledge of the US constitution than I do of the Treaty.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  February 10, 2019

          If Jacinda maybe admitted that herself and used the opportunity to educate the [Pakeha] public, what a difference it might make …

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    • A sensible response.

      Ardern was caught unprepared. She is likely to have learned from that.

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      • adamsmith1922

         /  February 10, 2019

        Frankly,PG I doubt that, as she seems to be caught out on a regular basis.

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        • I think that being caught out on not being able to give specifics about what the Government is going to do, as opposed to the vague rhetoric of what it aspires to do is largely a different matter.

          Lack of action is this Government’s biggest problem.

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          • Gezza

             /  February 10, 2019

            HDPA is being ludicrous. We’ve been arguing over the Treaty on this blog for as long as I’ve been posting here & I’ll bet none of us could recite eirher an English or Maori version of it without googling it first.

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          • adamsmith1922

             /  February 10, 2019

            She is often unable to respond on specifics re policy as when Twyford, Jones and Robertson changed aspects of KiwiNuild policy, her regime’s flagship policy.
            She doen’t do specifics in her vague rhetoric it is all waffle and platitude. None of whcih mean anything if she cannot put flesh on the skeleton of aspiration.

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            • Blazer

               /  February 10, 2019

              ‘brain fade’,’haven’t been briefed on that’,’what I can say;’…guess who?

            • Kitty Catkin

               /  February 10, 2019

              I would expect the PM to know the main points, if nothing else.

  4. PartisanZ

     /  February 10, 2019

    Gotta make the most of this little tid-bit … My foot’s as sore as hell from kickin’ it … but I’m gonna kick it a whole lot more anyhow …

    These days we try to teach our children that mistakes are opportunities in disguise …

    This is certainly one such.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  February 10, 2019

      Orh Jeeez, I didn’t initially see it was HDPA …

      Why are we bothering to discuss it?

      It’s just exactly like giving Don Brash and ‘The Right Brigade’ oxygen …

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    • Gezza

       /  February 10, 2019

      Mistakes aren’t just opportunities in disguise but they’re a fundamental tool of learning right from our earliest days. There are countless situations as kids where we try something & find out from the negative result what the better one is.

      I remember her getting caught out not knowing answers to some basic stock standard economic questions (or something) on the campaign trail. She had those figures the next day. Thanks Mr Robertson or Mr Parker.

      She might not be particularly bright (& I don’t think she is) but she’s not completely stupid.

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  5. Zedd

     /  February 10, 2019

    I hear that in USA, kids recite a ‘constitution speech’ at school (daily ?) I dont think this is ‘the kiwi way’ BUT when I was at H-S, we learned more about English history, (kings/queens etc.) than NZ !

    time that the language & history was promoted, not ignored.. it is what makes this an indep. Nation, not just an outpost of the ‘British Empire’

    btw: I bet Jacinda has at least as much knowledge, on this issue as many others do ?! :/

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    • PartisanZ

       /  February 10, 2019

      Of course she does … but the Blue Tinge Brigade media must kick her at every opportunity regardless …

      That’s their new role as the post-modern ‘Fifth Column Estate’ … or is it ‘Fifth Estate Column’?

      We have to make a new Constitution and declare ourselves a truly Independent Nation before we can shake the quite strong remaining vestiges of “outpost of the British Empire” …

      Remember, for all the politically expedient, paranoid weeping and nashing-of-teeth about immigration – ‘the Asian Invasion’, Muslim terrorists etc etc – the majority of all immigrants over the last 30- 40 years have been from England or the British Isles, Australia … and a whole bunch more from White South Africa …

      2013 Census … %age of population born overseas = 25%, of which UK = 6.43, Australia = 1.57 and South Africa = 1.36 … with China 2.42 and India 1.69 …

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_Zealand#Migration

      As much as there are virtually whole suburbs of Asians in South East Auckland, there are virtually whole suburbs of Poms and Boers in North Shore Auckland …

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    • Kitty Catkin

       /  February 10, 2019

      Blazer, when the Oprah team went out and asked young people to recite the speech…hardly any could. It’s easy enough to do it in unison with a lot of others.

      We learned both kinds of history at ‘H S’.

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  6. Chuck Bird

     /  February 10, 2019

    Pete, The headline was misleading. I doubt if HDA thinks that the PM should be able to recite the Treaty word for word. However, should have been able to paraphrase what each article meant. That is Article 1 is about sovereignty. Article 2 is about land and property rights. Article 3 is about equality. As HDA said the is GDP all over again. She has a degree in spin. She got caught out.

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    • PartisanZ

       /  February 10, 2019

      Article 1 of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, in either the te reo version that 540 rangatira signed, or the English translation of it, is about “kawanatanga” or ‘governance’ – a newly transliterated word coined especially for the occasion – not about ‘sovereignty’ or ‘mana’ …

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      • Kitty Catkin

         /  February 10, 2019

        Governance wasn’t coined then, it was already in existence as far as I know. What would be the point ?

        I agree that a PM should be able to paraphrase it, at the very least.

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  7. Mr Areta Ransfield - TE KAEHAUTU O TE WAKA ME TE MOTU AOTEAROA NEW ZEALAND

     /  February 10, 2019

    The comments made excusing the Prime Minister of New Zealand from knowing the founding document of this nation, are just the true reflection of how Tangata Whenua still today in this day and age, are held in contempt by all immigrant British Subjects, whom are people who are not tangata whenua, immaterial of race , culture, ethnicity, or skin colour, and they all cannot expect myself or others of Te Tangata Whenua o Aotearoa, to recognise any of you as being more than a British Subject, because it is by the FALSE AUTHORITY, of the british subject that all other peoples whom are not Tangata Whenua, are present within this nation, NOT OURS, and because they are so, also learn from other british subjects that they are allowed to treat Tangata Whenua with contempt, still continuing their thieving ways, all of you collectively, against us, whilst demanding from WE alone as tangata, not really any of the british subject, that we respect at the cost of Our Freedom, OUR CHILDREN, Our Property and, OUR LIVES for not doing so, the FULL BODY OF FALSE LEGISLATION, COURT AND TRIBUNAL DECISIONS, INCLUDING THOSE FROM OTHER FOREIGN NATIONS GLOBALLY, FALSE HISTORIES, and, RELIGIONS, why can’t WE call you all crazy for believing in invisible entities, especially when they subject women to effective inferior positions to that of a male through them as well, that all british subjects have imposed upon us,
    WHEN WE, IMMATERIAL OF WHAT YOU SAY OR WRITE BRITISH SUBJECT,
    TANGATA WHENUA ARE THE FIRST NATION PEOPLES OF TE WAKA ME TE MOTU
    AOTEAROA NEW ZEALAND, NOT YOU, AND CAN NEVER BE WHILST YOU YET REMAIN BRITISH SUBJECT.
    YOU WANT TO LOSE SUCH A STATUS, GO AND FIGHT ENGLAND TO DO SO, AS DID
    AMERICA, INDIA, AND CHINA DO SO, TO DO SO.
    FINALLY IF YOU CANNOT FIND IT IN YOUR PERSONALITY OR SOULS TO PROPERLY RESPECT TANGATA WHENUA, STOP RIPPING US OFF, THEN GET OUT OF OUR NATION, BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL NOT WELCOME HERE.

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    • Alan Wilkinson

       /  February 10, 2019

      I’ve been here as long as you and have the same rights as you. Go get a life.

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      • Gezza

         /  February 10, 2019

        Not on his Marae, you don’t. And nor should you. Many are among the only few places where Maori rights are generally acknowledged by Pakeha as paramount.

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        • Mother

           /  February 10, 2019

          How many Christians who clearly state that Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life frequent the marae?

          Most Christians practise paganism themselves.

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          • Gezza

             /  February 10, 2019

            I don’t know, but as for me that is actually a meaninglessly jargonesque mantra which is open to multiple interpretations depending on what is said about Jesus that one wants to focus on in whichever one or more of the gospels one wants to, it doesn’t really matter.

            And if by pagansim you mean ritual sacrifice or mock cannibalism then Christians have arguably been doing that ever since the Last Supper.

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          • Mother

             /  February 10, 2019

            The paganism which I have top of mind when I say that many Christians are practising paganism are things like –
            – not being able or willing to call out false teaching.
            – the practise of magic arts eg crystal healing and all sorts of superstition.
            – the trendy ‘mindfulness technique’.
            – yoga and Pilate’s (because it inevitably leads to a decision to think about Hindu gods)
            – unscientific healing quests
            – ecumenicalism (joining/agreeing with Catholicism).

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            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              Perhaps that should be ‘ecumenism’.

              I’m quite an ignorant person Gezza. I’m just enjoying free speech.

              I wish I was a scholar. We need Christian scholars like never before.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              And I forgot the Freemasons. Ugly. Deceit. This is the main problem with the CoE and the PCANZ. And the police!

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              And in the context of my comments today – paganism includes the spiritual meaning in Maori carvings, belief in various gods, and mana.

              Of course human pride in general is paganism. When Pakeha refuse to come down on their pride, it makes them ho hum about ‘obvious’ Maori pagan practises (even in church fellowships). It has become a vicious cycle.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              Well, you are extending the usual definition of paganism beyond what is ordinarily accepted to mean to fit your own personal interpretation or feelngs, and you are doing the same with your definition of Christian, without really ever clarifying what in your view a Christian is by how they should behave, (statements such as accepting Jesus as your Saviour [from what?] and others having false Gods [I mean no disrespect but I think yours is most likely false too – the empirical evidence for it is extremely poor, which is nuts when you think how self-important it is] I think these kinds of discussions will inevitably always get circular & just peter out.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              Conversations like this get circular when searching people take an interest in the first place.

              I think that every individual searches till their dying breath. I know that God through Jesus Christ is patient and kind and that all other religious roads only get more onerous. Look at vegans for example. They often experience a kind of euphoria in the beginning of their fast, but they inevitability run out of nutrients and minerals.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              “…without really ever clarifying what in your view a Christian is by how they should behave…”

              How much clearer can I be Gezza? Is it this? –

              I am a sinner. I need a Saviour. I made my choice to follow Jesus. He’s the Good Shepherd. I listen to Him.

              There’s my behaviour spelt out for you.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              Well, have you sold all that you own & given the money to the poor, for example?

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              Jesus gave that advice to one young rich man. I’m glad I was never a rich man whom might not have passed that test, as the one talking to Jesus didn’t.

              You look for answers to life’s questions in a thread which is supposed to be about dear Jacinda’s lessons. Just let it peter out Gezza.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              I just typed quite a long response to that & then I realised that your very last sentence was actually excellent advice, so I’m taking it.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  February 10, 2019

          I don’t invite myself into his house and family and he doesn’t invite himself into mine.

          All of us have our private spaces but only some of us try to make that into a competition for status. Apparently you do.

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          • Gezza

             /  February 10, 2019

            I think the point I was trying to make has gone right over your head so I’ve made it badly, but knowing your views on this kind of issue I think I’ll just let it go as your ideas are too fixed.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              I think your point evaporates on any close examination.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              In your mind any comment I made to explain further also would, on auto-reject, hence my remark.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              I don’t auto-reject anything but I do scrutinise carefully.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              You have avowed libertarian paradigm with an immovable belief in the free market, individual responsibility and individual property rights as the solution to most of socities problems & a refusal to accept any alternative view of the effect of the treaty than your own. You don’t so much scrutinise issues involving the Treaty & Maori as simply run through that filter & outright reject any notions that clash with them.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              I think you are the one with an auto-reject.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              Well, yes, but you would. I have just explained why. Why are you telling me this? 😐

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              I thought you needed a mirror.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              Well you sure don’t need a projector.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              Always willing to help.

    • Mother

       /  February 10, 2019

      Dear Mr Ransfield, I am a descendant of the colonists and I do not hold our indigenous peoples in contempt. I love you actually, and hope you can love me.

      Whatever has hurt you, and continues to hurt, is serious indeed. I take it seriously.

      Our way of life is hurting many of us.

      Thank you for joining in on YourNZ. I hope you can find the strength to continue – as Mr Z says – bat hard.

      I’m listening and I am sure there are others.

      Kia ora Sir.

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      • Mother

         /  February 10, 2019

        AW, you are way down in my estimation. If you want to be heroic, why don’t you help me? You know my testimony. You know that our way of life hurt me terribly too. You were a gentleman (without understanding) toward me! Why is your first reaction to an angry man (again, without your understanding) so ungentlemanly?

        Mr Ransfield is certain to have pertinent points to make on YourNZ. Are you like Maureen, whom I had to tell off? Is YourNZ YourClub?

        I think that you should try getting a life. I doubt you would behave that silly way if this conversation happened in a room together. I think you might walk out.

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        • Kitty Catkin

           /  February 10, 2019

          I think that Mr Ransfield (which of the 9 canoes did the Ransfields arrive on?) is trotting out generalisations without really thinking about their meanings or veracity, and there’s no point in trying to make someone like that see reason.

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          • Mother

             /  February 10, 2019

            There’s no way of knowing so without face to face conversation.

            When I first arrived on YourNZ (traumatised) I seemed, to some people, like a person who could not be reasoned with.

            I would like Mr Ransfield to give us a go. I think he will be able to reason. Mr Ransfield feels strongly about some things. That’s good.

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        • PartisanZ

           /  February 10, 2019

          Well said Mother! …. Bat away old girl!!!

          Miss Kitty … straight into Reducto in Absurdum eh?

          Mr Ransfield is speaking as a contemporary Maori … He can’t speak to you from back in 1840!

          Sure he’s making generalizations … Generalizations have their place.

          He probably saves the finer details for Treaty Settlement negotiations?

          You may be right though, there may be no point in trying to make “someone like that” see Pakeha reason … Intellect without emotion … The talking head …

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          • Gezza

             /  February 10, 2019

            And Pakeha are speaking to him as contemporary native born New Zealanders of typcally mixed ancestry many now going back five or more generations ourselves. To tell any of us to go leave our land of birth the history of which we have no current responsibility for is as absurd as me telling him your ancestors came from somewhere else too & if you don’t like it the way it is here any more you can always move somewhere else too.

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            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              No Gezza, it’s not the same – because Maori are spiritually linked to the land and their ancestors. If I believed in that (paganism) I would not be able to follow Christ. I don’t believe in superstition nor ghosts. It’s different for Maori. And they don’t know Christianity. They need to lay down their mana.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              Parti, you commented about the goodwill shown by people at Waitangi. Human goodwill is good, but it’s not going to be enough.

            • Gezza

               /  February 10, 2019

              Mother you forget that so are many Pakeha spiritually linked to the land and their ancestors. Claiming greater rights through ancestral links is understandable from a Maori perpective is something I can understand, but also not recognising mythology & ancestry as determining one’s rights to be greater or paramount over others for whom this is also their native land, when they now predominate in numbers is also something I can understand. It is the history of millenia of civilisations.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              Gezza, if Pakeha truly were deeply spiritually linked to their ancestors and their land, they wouldn’t have fumbled their initial decisions. They would have understood how it was for Maori.

              The Maori worship false gods (hence the seemingly unsurmountable mystery of Maori mana and tangata whenua). The colonists failed to listen to the one true God. Pakeha need to front up. They need to decide whether they can bear the consequences if they let these issues slide. Sadly, it seems many are still practising selfishness, greed, hypocrisy, impatience. They are stuck because they don’t think about the children’s future.

              I think the government should get the treaty negotiations stitched up, then leave the rest (social aspects) to the people. Personally, I’d love to go toharoa gathering, and a few other things.

          • Mother

             /  February 10, 2019

            Please continue Mr Ransfield. There are some intelligent minds which have let slip that they are also emotional beings (and spiritual too).

            Did you really mean that the pakeha are not welcome here? What specifically made you angry?

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            • duperez

               /  February 10, 2019

              There are probably some intelligent minds, some emotional ones and some spiritual, and some of all shades and mixtures, who will ponder what Kitty calls “the trotting out generalisations.”

              For example they might gently question “the Tangata Whenua still today in this day and age, are held in contempt by all immigrant British Subjects.”

              All? Wherever the genuine feelings come from and how real and true the expressions of those are, arrant nonsense is still arrant nonsense.

        • Alan Wilkinson

           /  February 10, 2019

          I don’t exist to please you, Mother, and I call it as I see it. Mr Ransfield is welcome to contribute here but when he makes silly generalisations he will get called on them.

          He may have pertinent comments to make but if so he should start making them. Attempts to pull rank won’t help him do that.

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          • Mother

             /  February 10, 2019

            You don’t exist to please me Alan? Where did that come from? That’s a strange comment.

            I can’t see anything re ‘pulling rank’ with Mr Ransfield. He was ranting. Do you always react with force and reciprocated anger when someone is having a rant?

            Perhaps Mr Ransfield is a troll. Who knows. If he’s genuine, I hope he formulates his ideas coherently and shares them. I don’t see his initial outburst as a problem, and definitely not pulling rank.

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            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              I notice he has a history of being banned from several talkback radio programs. He spent most of his rant claiming to be tangata whenua. He isn’t. I’ve been born and lived here longer than he has. Seven generations ago some of his ancestors were but that time is long gone. As for his nonsense about Maori being held in contempt I am just back from celebrating a very old friend’s birthday with 2 pakeha, 2 Maori and one SAfa. None of us holds anyone in contempt on account of their race and our families cross racial differences. I fear the guy is an idiot.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              Not an idiot. Someone with ideas and a hurting past.
              But thank you for the background info Alan.

            • Alan Wilkinson

               /  February 10, 2019

              He’s got a hurting present. Straightening out his thinking is the only cure.

            • Mother

               /  February 10, 2019

              You’re harsh Alan.

              A man’s formative years for thinking are influenced by our education system, through the generations.

              Jacinda should make sure we all understand the treaty and we need a major overhaul of our school curriculums.

            • Griff.

               /  February 10, 2019

              You could surgically remove his British portion so he is not so conflicted.

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